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post 1663514393 06-27-2022, 06:54 AM
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All cause mortality Year on Year?
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
even then you still start from the assumption that the vaccines must be pure evil on a huge scale

I replied a couple of pages back to your post with the Switzerland data just saying that if you look at the bigger picture the drop isn't even that shocking but you didn't pick that up, probably since it doesn't fit the narritive you've already written for yourself

now I went to take a look at the data for The Netherlands and took a larger timeframe myself

https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/cijfers/detail/37230ned



what sort of "sigma event" contributes to almost every month in 2021?

might be the lockdowns are responsible for a significant increase in births that is seeing a perfectly plausibe fall in 2022?

or MUST it be the vax?

being critical is good but you have to keep an open mind and limit confirmation bias
I didn't assume "pure evil" though I have said that there is a helluva a lot of smoke. I've stated "lack of long term data", corruption, data manipulation, etc. And I've even made a thread or two making the very best case FOR the mrna injections and pointing out that they were a bad product even if you go with the most positive possible spin.

I didn't state conclusively that these drops in birth rates are due to the injections or that it is a permanent change. In fact when I first saw the claim I tried to verify if lower births were a real thing.

I've acknowledged that other factors could have contributed to higher all cause mortality [drug overdose, suicide, lack of medical treatment] and I don't have any problem acknowledging there could be other factors re: a lower birth rate.

I feel that often when I post things saying "hey, I saw this *other person or group* says/posted XYZ" a lot of people conflate that with "katya said XYZ" even when I post direct quotes and links to sources.

sharing information = | = being the source of information = | = claiming information is verified true and complete

It's a weird online thing I think. IRL I've not experienced it.

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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
even then you still start from the assumption that the vaccines must be pure evil on a huge scale

I replied a couple of pages back to your post with the Switzerland data just saying that if you look at the bigger picture the drop isn't even that shocking but you didn't pick that up, probably since it doesn't fit the narritive you've already written for yourself

now I went to take a look at the data for The Netherlands and took a larger timeframe myself

https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/cijfers/detail/37230ned



what sort of "sigma event" contributes to almost every month in 2021?

might be the lockdowns are responsible for a significant increase in births that is seeing a perfectly plausibe fall in 2022?

or MUST it be the vax?

being critical is good but you have to keep an open mind and limit confirmation bias
The 2022 numbers appear to match the 2019 numbers pretty well actually with the exception of the drop in April, which could be incomplete reporting or it could just be a drop-off. I'm more interested in Year over Year data and the +10000 births in 2021 would obviously lead to a drop-off from 2022 looking at the trends.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
So just saw that the charts have multiplied. I know you will be so pleased.

UK data:

What fraction of uk 18-40 year old women are vaccinated?
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Tbf, seeing how retarded everyone behaved for the last two years, would YOU want to present a child to this clown show?
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
even then you still start from the assumption that the vaccines must be pure evil on a huge scale

I replied a couple of pages back to your post with the Switzerland data just saying that if you look at the bigger picture the drop isn't even that shocking but you didn't pick that up, probably since it doesn't fit the narritive you've already written for yourself

now I went to take a look at the data for The Netherlands and took a larger timeframe myself

https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/cijfers/detail/37230ned



what sort of "sigma event" contributes to almost every month in 2021?

might be the lockdowns are responsible for a significant increase in births that is seeing a perfectly plausibe fall in 2022?

or MUST it be the vax?

being critical is good but you have to keep an open mind and limit confirmation bias
The Dutch only began vaxxing 34 year olds in June 2021.

9 months later is...March 2022
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post 1663524293 06-27-2022, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By SUPERH0T⏩
The Dutch only began vaxxing 34 year olds in June 2021.

9 months later is...March 2022
did you even read my post?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Actually, even if you weren't twisting my words without a shred of context and interpolating your own story on top of that, whether or not a proposition is factual isn't relevant to its status as an insult or not.


An insult is intended to degrade or demean or hurt. If I see a black dude walking down the street, and I yell out "Hey you f*cking darkie !" that's an insult, even if he is dark skinned. Similarly if I see a fat dude, and I yell out "hey you fat piece of chit!". It's because the intention is to degrade, or demean or hurt.


An insult exists to degrade and it doesn't matter about the facticity of the statement. Its especially despicable in debating because it means you're out of argument and your only fallback is to behave like a child.



And what is especially stupid is comparing scientific data and argument to some sort of 'Narrative'. Is there any solid argument the conspiracy crowd can offer other than acting like a goth kid who just wants to be a non-conformist?
Be honest with me, please.

What will you say if it comes out that infertility really is a side effect of the vaccine? I'm genuinely curious.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
This is another textbook example ofpost hoc, ergo propter hoc.: After this, therefore because of this.



It's a very common argument by the Chicken Nugget Crew, and notice there's not actually any rigorous scientific argument as to why it's causing infertility; just a vague hand wave to the LNPs.


The actual pharmacovigilance data ( the gold standard when assessing a vaccine safety) on the vaccines are fairly unanimous: The vaccines are safe and well-tolerated in hundreds of millions of cases--with a system sensitive enough to detect one in a thousand % events--and there is no biochemical plausibility by which the vaccine could cause a long-term issue down the road.


Response to this? Insults and childishness, as per usual.
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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
Be honest with me, please.

What will you say if it comes out that infertility really is a side effect of the vaccine? I'm genuinely curious.
you ever heard of a firewall?? he has a poopwall that deflects everything that goes against his narrative.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
you ever heard of a firewall?? he has a poopwall that deflects everything that goes against his narrative.
I'm just genuinely curious what someone that has been defending the vaccines will sayifit turns out that the conspiracy theories are true. If they've been wrong all this time, what will they do and/or say?

I really do hope it turns out to be true. Less liberals in the world would be such a good thing.
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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
I'm just genuinely curious what someone that has been defending the vaccines will sayifit turns out that the conspiracy theories are true. If they've been wrong all this time, what will they do and/or say?

I really do hope it turns out to be true. Less liberals in the world would be such a good thing.
he would still be denying everything there is no way his type would ever admit that he was wrong.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Uh yeah, no. Two things:


1) Chicken Nugget Crew isn't a personal insult or attack. The Chicken Nugget scale is ascale. It's a rating system designed to measure the nuttiness, scientific illiteracy and absurd conspiratorial nature of claims. Claims are what are being attacked, not people. There's nothing wrong with throwing in a little humour while you deconstruct a dishonest and scientifically illiterate claim intending to promulgate vaccine discouragement.


Chit-smearer, by contrast, is utterly pointless. It's an insult and nothing more. There is no rationale other than to attack me personally, and furthermore, it's thrown and left without addressing the argument offered.

You can't rationalise the chit smearer insults. It's insulting for the sake of insulting, and you need to admit it.



2) I don't recall someone offering a scientifically literate and serious argument for the anti-vaxx position and my only reaction was to disappear. This sounds made up and we need to see evidence of it.
1) "chicken nugget crew"..what does the word "crew" mean if not indicative of "people". One does not call a set of claims a crew..you are referring to a group of people..in which backs up their claims with Scientific data..unlike the projection and moronic long winded posts you continue to give.

You being a chit smearer and being attracted to trannies is factual based on posts that you have made.

2) You always disappear, only to make a thread/post about how hurt you are by insults the next day...
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How easily available is the data from multiple countries for vaccination rate by month and birth rate by month?

You should easily be able to see an undeniable pattern that could be attributed to the vax if this were the case.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
he would still be denying everything there is no way his type would ever admit that he was wrong.
I would be amazed if that were the case.
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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
I'm just genuinely curious what someone that has been defending the vaccines will sayifit turns out that the conspiracy theories are true. If they've been wrong all this time, what will they do and/or say?

I really do hope it turns out to be true. Less liberals in the world would be such a good thing.
what is wrong with you, srs?

everyone should hope those vaccines DIDN'T do harm wtf
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
what is wrong with you, srs?

everyone should hope those vaccines DIDN'T do harm wtf
The amount of **** it would cause would definitely suck, but the benefit is no more liberals creating more liberals. Silver linings, my dude.
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And the less developed countries where the vaccine has not been readily available will continue to reproduce. In terms of a depopulation scheme, that approach makes zero sense, unless of course the vaccine causing infertility issues was an unintended consequence.
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Originally Posted By Midi77⏩
And the less developed countries where the vaccine has not been readily available will continue to reproduce. In terms of a depopulation scheme, that approach makes zero sense, unless of course the vaccine causing infertility issues was an unintended consequence.
the "less developed countries" have a way higher percentage of people that are jabbed compared to the west they literary could not give away that trash for free they tried to bribe people with burgers and fries etc. nobody wants to take that sht here.

the poorer the country the more people are jabbed.
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
they shouldn't

fuk, nobody should except maybe the elderly and the weak

but now that everything is said and done you still get the no-vax crew spewing chit about everything that goes wrong today "must be the vax"

this is equally stupid to the pro-vax crew pushing their chit

everyone should just let it go and move on, srs

there is nothing to win by fishing for an "I told you so", it's just petty
Leftists believed I should have lost my job and rights for being unvaccinated, and you want me to forget about that, and move on?
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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
Be honest with me, please.

What will you say if it comes out that infertility really is a side effect of the vaccine? I'm genuinely curious.
Can't impregnate a tranny. He'd be fine
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Leftists believed I should have lost my job and rights for being unvaccinated, and you want me to forget about that, and move on?
Absolutely this.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Leftists believed I should have lost my job and rights for being unvaccinated, and you want me to forget about that, and move on?
brah what's the alternative to moving on?

ded srs, I'm curious

FYI I'm also 100% opposed to how they handled the entire covid and vax chit but it happened and we can't change it now
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
brah what's the alternative to moving on?

ded srs, I'm curious

FYI I'm also 100% opposed to how they handled the entire covid and vax chit but it happened and we can't change it now
So all of these leaders that did all of this, give them a pass? How many of them violated their own mandates? Constantly?

**** that, I am not moving on, and I will continue to at least shame those on the bottom who supported all of this.

The people on the top, unfortunately true justice won't be served. But one can hope.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So all of these leaders that did all of this, give them a pass? How many of them violated their own mandates? Constantly?

**** that, I am not moving on, and I will continue to at least shame those on the bottom who supported all of this.

The people on the top, unfortunately true justice won't be served. But one can hope.
I'm all for serving justice to the leaders that mandated all that chit, but rooting for bad stuff to happen to those that took the vax... I just can't

and as you say those at the top will never be held accountable, but holding a grudge against the serfs leads to nothing but bitterness
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I have absolutely refused to allow my 4 year old daughter to be "vaccinated" (can't even call it that, it doesn't actually prevent anything as far as I can tell). Definitely higher risk from the vaxx than getting a cold. When she had Covid she felt a bit icky for 1 evening then was completely fine!
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Originally Posted By SUPERH0T⏩
What fraction of uk 18-40 year old women are vaccinated?
Unsure. The UK was publishing a lot of their data publicly and then they stopped being so open when their data didn't support uptake of the injections.
Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
How easily available is the data from multiple countries for vaccination rate by month and birth rate by month?

You should easily be able to see an undeniable pattern that could be attributed to the vax if this were the case.
Yes, like all cause mortality this should be a discernible pattern if it is true.

I'm not sure how readily available the information will be. I would expect that it will be more complete for countries that have a nationalize healthcare system.

The study I posted that showed an 8X higher rate of myocarditis after the second Pfizer injection was done using French data which covers about 32 million people. Moderna was worse.

I expect that it will be complicated by:

- the types of vaccines used as some countries used multiple types- lower dose mRNA in LNPs [Pfizer], higher dose mRNA in LNPs [Moderna], the mRNA injections using adenovirus, and then some more traditional type vaccines

- when the injections were administered

- that childbirth is a lagging indicator [9 to 11 months? given two doses and weeks between doses]
Originally Posted By messomi⏩
the "less developed countries" have a way higher percentage of people that are jabbed compared to the west they literary could not give away that trash for free they tried to bribe people with burgers and fries etc. nobody wants to take that sht here.

the poorer the country the more people are jabbed.
Unaware. I thought throughout we were told that the rich countries were buying up all of the shots and using them for younger/healthier people while poor countries didn't have enough shots for their old/vulnerable people.
Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
I'm all for serving justice to the leaders that mandated all that chit, but rooting for bad stuff to happen to those that took the vax... I just can't

and as you say those at the top will never be held accountable, butholding a grudge against the serfs leads to nothing but bitterness
Well this I agree with.

move on = just go about your business like everything is okay and all is forgiven

Hell no. The people in positions of power who hatched this mess need to be held accountable- fired, censured, sued, prosecuted -whatever applies.

move on = let go of any anger against people who got the shots

Common sense. Personally wasn't ever angry at people for getting them if that is what they decided was best for themselves, or what they felt compelled to do.

It wasn't easy being pressured, or for some people being insulted or shunned. If specific people were chitty to you because you didn't want it and didn't get it? Sure, you can carry that if you want to.

I don't plan to though. My daughter's grandparents came at me hard for some time about how important it was to them- grandma was begging me and crying over it. And I firmly restated my stance [virus was a low risk for us, not enough info on the shots] and told her I understood that she was upset and scared and cares about us, etc. They've not brought it up in months now and neither have I.

^^^
That's a thing to "move on" from- division in your personal relationships stemming from a difference of opinion.
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