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Fookin Brootal. My m8's sloot wife left him and killed their unborn baby.
08-03-2022, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
Synapses begin forming but by no means is a fetus the size of a jellybean thinking or having a conscious experience.You just described the driving factor for 99% of abortions
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Uh.. there's a heartbeat & readable brain activity by 5 weeks; shows how much you know
By your logic it's not sentient until it comes out of the womb since it's technically still attached to the mother, which we know isn't true
Life biologically begins at conception
Repeal the 19th
Uh.. there's a heartbeat & readable brain activity by 5 weeks; shows how much you know
By your logic it's not sentient until it comes out of the womb since it's technically still attached to the mother, which we know isn't true
Life biologically begins at conception
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08-03-2022, 04:54 PM
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everybody assuming the guy cheated but what if she was doing the cheating and he didnt want her back? so she aborted the baby and blames the husband? women find any and everyway to justify cheating
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08-03-2022, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
Blissful handled my response.No, she didn't. I'm not an abortion supporter, I think it should be illegal in the third trimester, and probably in the second trimester too
But there is no logical or scientific argument to be made that the fetus is in any way a living, sentient being at 2 months. It simply is not. The only argument you could make is a religious one that it has the potential to be living, but then like, good luck justifying pulling out, birth control, or anything
But there is no logical or scientific argument to be made that the fetus is in any way a living, sentient being at 2 months. It simply is not. The only argument you could make is a religious one that it has the potential to be living, but then like, good luck justifying pulling out, birth control, or anything
I also lol at anyone using the word sentient when describing whether or not it is worth killing. A person in a coma is considered not to be a sentient being. So we should be able to murder all people in comas because they aren't sentient, and not bear the repercussions of it being a murder.
You say you aren't an abortion supporter, but you are.
08-03-2022, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles⏩
The wife said the husband dun fukked up and he knows what he did. Response from the husband to op makes it clear he knows he dun fukked up.everybody assuming the guy cheated but what if she was doing the cheating and he didnt want her back? so she aborted the baby and blames the husband? women find any and everyway to justify cheating
Wife made the right move.
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08-03-2022, 04:55 PM
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"He fuked up and knows what he did" could mean a hundred things. Rather than cheating, to me the first thing that came to mind was she's not on or is inconsistent in taking birth control, so he kept dumping loads in her instead of pulling out like she expected him to.
And to be honest, if she was resolute about never having kids while knowing he badly wanted them I don't think if he cheated it was so bad. Especially if she made it seem like she wanted kids and did a 180 on him. If they're completely at odds about having kids the marriage is basically over.
And to be honest, if she was resolute about never having kids while knowing he badly wanted them I don't think if he cheated it was so bad. Especially if she made it seem like she wanted kids and did a 180 on him. If they're completely at odds about having kids the marriage is basically over.
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08-03-2022, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Neither is someone in a coma. They aren't sentient. So should we just murder anyone in a coma as well and forfeit the feeling of guilt because they aren't consciously experience life, feelings, and thinking?Synapses begin forming but by no means is a fetus the size of a jellybean thinking or having a conscious experience.
08-03-2022, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
A person in a coma was sentient before and has a whole history and lived experience and family who loves him. It's not about if you are having a conscious experience in the moment, it's about if you previously had one and are expected to keep having one once the coma is over.Blissful handled my response.
I also lol at anyone using the word sentient when describing whether or not it is worth killing. A person in a coma is considered not to be a sentient being. So we should be able to murder all people in comas because they aren't sentient, and not bear the repercussions of it being a murder.
You say you aren't an abortion supporter, but you are.
I also lol at anyone using the word sentient when describing whether or not it is worth killing. A person in a coma is considered not to be a sentient being. So we should be able to murder all people in comas because they aren't sentient, and not bear the repercussions of it being a murder.
You say you aren't an abortion supporter, but you are.
An easier to understand analogy is sleeping. We sleep every night and are barely conscious at that moment but we were conscious just before sleeping and are expected to wake up fully conscious just after.
It's an easy distinction for me, not sure how you don't get it.
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08-03-2022, 05:01 PM
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LOL at miscers that support babykilling. Always justifying that evil.
The true story needs to come out, we still don't know what happened or if she is lying (by implying and making a vague accusation), etc.
The true story needs to come out, we still don't know what happened or if she is lying (by implying and making a vague accusation), etc.
08-03-2022, 05:02 PM
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That was a quick abortion all told. Makes me wonder what other horrific choices she might make on the spur of the moment - like killing their toddler if he did something she didn't agre with.
Your mate dodged a bullet op. Good for him.
Your mate dodged a bullet op. Good for him.
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08-03-2022, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
If the mother got an abortion 4 days after the sperm joins with the egg are you guys considering that murder too?LOL at miscers that support babykilling. Always justifying that evil.
The true story needs to come out, we still don't know what happened or if she is lying (by implying and making a vague accusation), etc.
The true story needs to come out, we still don't know what happened or if she is lying (by implying and making a vague accusation), etc.
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
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08-03-2022, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
What about using electrical activity in the brain as a sign of life? We use the lack of such activity to determine death.If the mother got an abortion 4 days after the sperm joins with the egg are you guys considering that murder too?
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
08-03-2022, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Misc has got no problem with whipping up dat dere Plan B smoothie.If the mother got an abortion 4 days after the sperm joins with the egg are you guys considering that murder too?
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
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08-03-2022, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Synapses begin forming but by no means is a fetus the size of a jellybean thinking or having a conscious experience.
Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
If the synapses are firing, providing readable activity then even if the heart is not beating, that person is clinically alive just as you & IWhat about using electrical activity in the brain as a sign of life? We use the lack of such activity to determine death.
You cannot justify murdering an innocent child as a sane person; it's entirely illogical
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08-03-2022, 05:15 PM
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solid guy my ass lmao
ur bro 100% cheated on her
ur bro 100% cheated on her
08-03-2022, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
https://wisconsinrighttolife.org/fet...ment-timeline/If the mother got an abortion 4 days after the sperm joins with the egg are you guys considering that murder too?
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
"Fertilization – the joining of the father’s sperm and the mother’s egg – this is when life begins. Fertilization can occur within minutes of intercourse or within two to three days afterwards. When fertilization occurs a new, unique human individual begins the journey of development-the fetal development timeline. At the earliest stage, the new person is referred to as a zygote and is no larger than a single grain of sand. Cell division begins mere moments after fertilization.
'At fertilization, every bit of genetic information necessary for the child’s development is present. The “program” for everything is there: hair and eye color, skin tone, height – even likely giftedness as a pianist, vocalist or computer programmer.'
A function called implantation happens from five to nine days after fertilization. Implantation occurs when the new human nestles him or herself in the wall of the uterus (or womb) and begins to draw nutrition. Once he/she has implanted, your baby is called a blastocyst and is about 0.1 – 0.2 mm in diameter.
This week your body will experience a hormone reaction to the presence of the developing baby. The result is that you stop menstruating. In other words, you miss your normal period.
Between weeks three and four (18 to 25 days after fertilization) the developing baby’s heart begins to beat. Arm and leg buds form. The face – eyes, ears, nose and mouth – begin to take form."
08-03-2022, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Is the OP talking about 4 days or two months? I can understand the morning after pill, I can understand abortion in certain circumstances within a certain time frame.If the mother got an abortion 4 days after the sperm joins with the egg are you guys considering that murder too?
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
No matter how you look at it, without outside intervention, this would have been a healthy born baby in 7 months. She ended any chance of that life, not because of what the baby did, but because of what the father did. There is no justification for that. At the very least, she had 18 years of child support coming to her, and we all know that the courts stick it to the father with child support. Or there is adoption, plenty of couples want to adopt. She chose spite and death.
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08-03-2022, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
All due respect, nothing here is new info to me. The question is what do we value. You value something once it becomes human life and logically that happens at conception. Totally see your point. I don't necessarily value human life, I value a conscious experience.https://wisconsinrighttolife.org/fet...ment-timeline/
"Fertilization – the joining of the father’s sperm and the mother’s egg – this is when life begins. Fertilization can occur within minutes of intercourse or within two to three days afterwards. When fertilization occurs a new, unique human individual begins the journey of development-the fetal development timeline. At the earliest stage, the new person is referred to as a zygote and is no larger than a single grain of sand. Cell division begins mere moments after fertilization.
'At fertilization, every bit of genetic information necessary for the child’s development is present. The “program” for everything is there: hair and eye color, skin tone, height – even likely giftedness as a pianist, vocalist or computer programmer.'
A function called implantation happens from five to nine days after fertilization. Implantation occurs when the new human nestles him or herself in the wall of the uterus (or womb) and begins to draw nutrition. Once he/she has implanted, your baby is called a blastocyst and is about 0.1 – 0.2 mm in diameter.
This week your body will experience a hormone reaction to the presence of the developing baby. The result is that you stop menstruating. In other words, you miss your normal period.
Between weeks three and four (18 to 25 days after fertilization) the developing baby’s heart begins to beat. Arm and leg buds form. The face – eyes, ears, nose and mouth – begin to take form."
"Fertilization – the joining of the father’s sperm and the mother’s egg – this is when life begins. Fertilization can occur within minutes of intercourse or within two to three days afterwards. When fertilization occurs a new, unique human individual begins the journey of development-the fetal development timeline. At the earliest stage, the new person is referred to as a zygote and is no larger than a single grain of sand. Cell division begins mere moments after fertilization.
'At fertilization, every bit of genetic information necessary for the child’s development is present. The “program” for everything is there: hair and eye color, skin tone, height – even likely giftedness as a pianist, vocalist or computer programmer.'
A function called implantation happens from five to nine days after fertilization. Implantation occurs when the new human nestles him or herself in the wall of the uterus (or womb) and begins to draw nutrition. Once he/she has implanted, your baby is called a blastocyst and is about 0.1 – 0.2 mm in diameter.
This week your body will experience a hormone reaction to the presence of the developing baby. The result is that you stop menstruating. In other words, you miss your normal period.
Between weeks three and four (18 to 25 days after fertilization) the developing baby’s heart begins to beat. Arm and leg buds form. The face – eyes, ears, nose and mouth – begin to take form."
Meaning, someone is worthy of our moral consideration once they have obtained a conscious experience and are expected to continue having one.
So yeah, that's where we will always disagree.
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08-03-2022, 05:28 PM
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Also, "he knows what he did". Thats complete bull****, women are only ambiguous when it suits their narrative or needs. If the guy had cheated she would have said so, if the guy had hit her she would have say so. Women dont miss a chance to play the victim role
For all we know she's fuking a Chad or likes a Chad from her job, and OPs friend liked some girl's picture on instagram and thats "what he did".
For all we know she's fuking a Chad or likes a Chad from her job, and OPs friend liked some girl's picture on instagram and thats "what he did".
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08-03-2022, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By dmike100⏩
Then we don't disagree. My time frame is just different from yours.Is the OP talking about 4 days or two months? I can understand the morning after pill, I can understand abortion in certain circumstances within a certain time frame.
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08-03-2022, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Yeah I guess this is an "agree to disagree" point because I think consciousness itself is a tricky concept to define or explain and then apply to status of life. But I do understand your point of view.All due respect, nothing here is new info to me. The question is what do we value. You value something once it becomes human life and logically that happens at conception. Totally see your point. I don't necessarily value human life, I value a conscious experience.
Meaning, someone is worthy of our moral consideration once they have obtained a conscious experience and are expected to continue having one.
So yeah, that's where we will always disagree.
Meaning, someone is worthy of our moral consideration once they have obtained a conscious experience and are expected to continue having one.
So yeah, that's where we will always disagree.
08-03-2022, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
laughs in Margaret SangerThen we don't disagree. My time frame is just different from yours.
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08-03-2022, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
This is a very important aspect of the story and we really do need more on this part. Just taking her word for it and then creating possible scenarios based on her word and then making those possible scenarios fact is not the best approach.Also, "he knows what he did". Thats complete bull****, women are only ambiguous when it suits their narrative or needs. If the guy had cheated she would have said so, if the guy had hit her she would have say so. Women dont miss a chance to play the victim role
For all we know she's fuking a Chad or likes a Chad from her job, and OPs friend liked some girl's picture on instagram and thats "what he did".
For all we know she's fuking a Chad or likes a Chad from her job, and OPs friend liked some girl's picture on instagram and thats "what he did".
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
You think that up to 8.5 months into it? Maybe early weeks but just because it's not out the body that late you can't say it's not a baby lol.It's a fetus. It's not a baby until it's born.
The guy probably forgot to put a Ukraine filter on his Twitter profile fast enough.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
No I'd say the consequences are on the innocent baby who was killed as revenge against the father.This
If you cheat then don’t cry about your wife leaving you.
The abortion part is messed up though. I’m against abortion.
Either way if he cheated then the consequences are on him.
If you cheat then don’t cry about your wife leaving you.
The abortion part is messed up though. I’m against abortion.
Either way if he cheated then the consequences are on him.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Lol @ 'clump of cells.'If the mother got an abortion 4 days after the sperm joins with the egg are you guys considering that murder too?
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
Surely killing that clump of cells holds nowhere the same moral weight as killing a baby that's just been delivered in the hospital. I know you know deep down that there's a difference.
Tell me you didn't graduate high school without telling me you didn't graduate high school.
We are all clumps of cells. All living things are clumps of cells. At eight weeks the 'clump of cells' in question looks like this:
That's a baby.
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Originally Posted By eternalnoob⏩
It isnt a baby until it can speak bro this is 2022Lol @ 'clump of cells.'
Tell me you didn't graduate high school without telling me you didn't graduate high school.
We are all clumps of cells. All living things are clumps of cells. At eight weeks the 'clump of cells' in question looks like this:
That's a baby.
Tell me you didn't graduate high school without telling me you didn't graduate high school.
We are all clumps of cells. All living things are clumps of cells. At eight weeks the 'clump of cells' in question looks like this:
That's a baby.
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
08-03-2022, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted By eternalnoob⏩
Lol @ 'clump of cells.'
Tell me you didn't graduate high school without telling me you didn't graduate high school.
We are all clumps of cells. All living things are clumps of cells. At eight weeks the 'clump of cells' in question looks like this:
That's a baby.
Tell me you didn't graduate high school without telling me you didn't graduate high school.
We are all clumps of cells. All living things are clumps of cells. At eight weeks the 'clump of cells' in question looks like this:
That's a baby.
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08-03-2022, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By amerikansjc⏩
What if it turns out the baby was never his?I know it sounds crazy but this is the vibe I'm getting from the whole situation...
I've known him a long time, we've been through some serious chit together. I know you never really know but I would not think he would cheat on her. Especially now that she was pregnant, they've been trying since they got married two years ago. They went to doctors and chit. I might be totally wrong, will update when I find out.
I've known him a long time, we've been through some serious chit together. I know you never really know but I would not think he would cheat on her. Especially now that she was pregnant, they've been trying since they got married two years ago. They went to doctors and chit. I might be totally wrong, will update when I find out.
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