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post 1665984083 08-12-2022, 09:47 AM
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post 1665984683 08-12-2022, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Phobaphobia
I recently watched Lex Fridman interview ex CIA spy. One thing he said he learned about human nature is every single person longs for human connection. Loneliness sucks. People would rather be together with the wrong person than be alone.

To answer your question OP, most of my friends actually got married in the last 2-3 years. And to be honest, I would never say this to them, but I can already predict some of them divorcing in the not-too-distant future.

I would say out of the 5 recent marriages in my friend circle, only 2 of them are what I would predict as long-lasting... AKA they made the right decision.

The others? Not so much. They felt pressure to get married even though there's clear long-lasting issues within their relationship. I guess once you get into your late 20s/early 30s, the pressure to "do the right thing" mounts. Even if the relationship is full of arguments, power plays, or just straight up lies/deceit/jealousy, etc.
I'm not aware of any from my close friend group in high school that are now divorced, but that really only 6 or 8 couples. I do have a few acquaintances that got divorced. My observation has been that I'm usually pretty good at predicting which ones will last and which ones won't. Mostly there are obvious character flaws when I think people are going to get divorced. Occasionally, it's incompatibility, but I think most of that can be worked through with good people. I've been wrong, too. I found out last year that one guy I grew up with but wasn't especially close to got divorced. From what I've been able to gather in talking to the guy's dad it was his fault, and that surprised me because he had always been a stand up individual.

People really do change, both for better and for worse. I've done my share of dumb things but it's hard for me to comprehend the mistakes that some people make.
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post 1665984893 08-12-2022, 10:03 AM
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non of my friends got divorced, but they all seem pretty fuking miserable.
post 1665984933 08-12-2022, 10:04 AM
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When I married my exwife she didn't have a ********, everything was great.


Fast forward 2 years she's going full Narc mode posting pics daily and stupid af memes about women power/strong mom bullchit and now surprisingly we are divorced. Yelled at me for "searching my exgf's name" meanwhile come to find out that biotch was liking pics and messaging all her ex's.




Seems like if you or your spouse have a personality disorder that causes you to feel the need to post on social media constantly to try and impress people who literally give 0 fuks about you then your odds of getting divorced increase about 90%.

Just from reading this thread looks like most successfully married miscers mention no social media.



Summary: social media is cancer, only low IQ people don't realize how bad it is
post 1665985823 08-12-2022, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Haven’t seen any divorces but all my friends and acquaintances talk about their marriages being sexless. They don’t want to have sex and rarely have sex.
Doesn't that seem like a bit of a personality/trust red flag to you? That they would talk about intimate details of their marriage with someone other than their spouse?

I can't imagine talking to other people about that kind of thing. That's a topic for my wife and me, and brining it up with others seems like a pretty big betrayal of trust.
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post 1665986303 08-12-2022, 10:23 AM
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There was once a survival need for a partner.
It wasn't just about love or emotional connection.

Plus it was not as easy for poorer attractive people to sloot for the rich.

Many couples built their wood cabins together and had children in them. The idea of marriage wasn't an idea back then. It was part of human life.
Nowadays its completely optional and in many cases risky.

Funny how the turn tables.
post 1665986723 08-12-2022, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By FrostF
There was once a survival need for a partner.
It wasn't just about love or emotional connection.

Plus it was not as easy for poorer attractive people to sloot for the rich.

Many couples built their wood cabins together and had children in them. The idea of marriage wasn't an idea back then. It was part of human life.
Nowadays its completely optional and in many cases risky.

Funny how the turn tables.
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post 1665987293 08-12-2022, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By FrostF
There was once a survival need for a partner.
It wasn't just about love or emotional connection.

Plus it was not as easy for poorer attractive people to sloot for the rich.

Many couples built their wood cabins together and had children in them. The idea of marriage wasn't an idea back then. It was part of human life.
Nowadays its completely optional and in many cases risky.

Funny how the turn tables.
Yup, many just don't want to marry anymore.

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post 1665997043 08-12-2022, 01:39 PM
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post 1666084503 08-14-2022, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
I can remember you pretty consistently talking about how great marriage is, how you everyone you associate with is living the dream when it comes to married life, and how the guy is pretty much 100% to blame one way or the other anytime marriages fall apart.

I also remember you once posting about how you saw no issues with women who barely ever have sex with their husbands and normalizing the idea of married couples having minimal amounts of sex together.
Not sure about your first point but your second point is off.

I said that sexless marriages can function perfectly so long as both parties don't want sex. Very old people is just one example of this.
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post 1666084723 08-14-2022, 03:48 AM
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I have definitely seen this happen with a lot of my friends. It's really tough to see them going through such difficult times.
post 1666085143 08-14-2022, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
Nope. All of my married friends' lives just keep improving over time and none of them use social media beyond having messenger installed on our phones so we can shoot the schit in a grotesque group chat where we basically post the most juvenile stuff. Buddy of mine just had a second kid and got a 1 million dollar house with a sickening salt water pool that's heated so I go there to chill with him. He's living the life. They all are really.



This mirrors my experience. Divorce is usually preceded by a complete lack of communication. Lack of insight and selfishness both dovetail into lack of communication.
This has been my experience too. It’s not always sunshine and roses, but when a problem comes up you need to work through it together and deal with it like adults. All the divorced people I know are generally trash and they are the “stuck in highschool” mentality.

Pro tip: don’t marry some insta-thot, find yourself a decent woman, meet through social activities, sports or through mutual friends
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post 1666085433 08-14-2022, 04:29 AM
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Great thread. No divorced but a lot of my mates are stating to run into problems with their wives who they’ve been married too for 10 or so years around social media and keeping up with the jones.
post 1666085813 08-14-2022, 04:52 AM
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Have a close friend circle since school - going back 22 years now.

Friend one: married girl from overseas. Have two kids. Don't ever see them because ever since he met her he became a recluse to his friends, and we'd see him maybe once every six months. I think because she moved overseas to live with him, he feels like he has to be at her beck and call.

Friend two: elite aesthetics including facial aesthetics - remember going on a pub crawl in the city about 5 guys and a bachelorette party stopped in the street as they were taking part in that game where you run around places doing tasks/finding things - for the life of me can't remember what it's called. Anyway they had to tick off 'taking a photo with an attractive guy' or something - anyway they stopped me friend and it was only meant to be for the bride, but literally every one of the party wanted in on it, then demanded he take his shirt off and were all over him. Long story short - he had good looks - and his girlfriends whilst growing up were damn attractive. He settled on a womanlet who was also obese (Still is), and they're happy as can be. The only married couple I know (several brothers/sisters of these friends are also married, then friends of their friends etc - so know a fair few married couples) who are truly happy.

Friend three: highschool sweathearts, have been together every since. This friend is the most social and he had an awesome man-cave in his backyard which wasn't connected to the house, so was the perfect drinks location. So I would be over there A LOT. Not once when I was over there was there peace and quiet. He'd yell at her. She'd yell at him. He'd yell at the kids. There is nothing but death in his eyes. He gives the Marlboro man stare a run for its money.

But hope onto social media and they're a lovey-dovey perfect couple. Sh*t is honestly hilarious.

TLDR; marriage is for suckers in this day and age.
post 1666085903 08-14-2022, 04:58 AM
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Eh not here but then again most my friends are Western dudes with Chinese wives, and we train them correctly.
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post 1666086673 08-14-2022, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted By FrostF
There was once a survival need for a partner.
It wasn't just about love or emotional connection.

Plus it was not as easy for poorer attractive people to sloot for the rich.

Many couples built their wood cabins together and had children in them. The idea of marriage wasn't an idea back then. It was part of human life.
Nowadays its completely optional and in many cases risky.

Funny how the turn tables.
The thing is marriage (or cohabitation) is still essential for raising successful children. Kids from broken households must likely will end up being broken. My parents and my wife's parents are all still going strong together in their 60's. They instilled strong family values to me and my wife. Now my wife and I are both instilling strong family values to our two girls who will hopefully do the same to their kids.
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post 1666087023 08-14-2022, 06:08 AM
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Not married couples but I know a lot of long term relationships that brokedown over the last two years with lockdown and covid and everything.
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I have a latina gf for 5 years now. She doesn’t do social media and has been loyal as phuck. Have had zero trust issues with her. Will likely put a ring on it. Remember if you have any doubts don’t do it.
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Originally Posted By fakhter
I have a latina gf for 5 years now. She doesn’t do social media and has been loyal as phuck. Have had zero trust issues with her. Will likely put a ring on it. Remember if you have any doubts don’t do it.
You found the unicorn.

I truly believe if a girl is addicted to social media it'll be doomed from the start.

Tits guy? Ass guy? No social media guy is the new crew to be.
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Originally Posted By andrew28
Bro that’s just ridiculous. If you think men who get divorced are trashy people then you’re an idiot. Women initiate 80% of divorce and that number shoots up to 90% if the woman is college educated. And thanks to no-fault divorce they can suck the resources out of a man simply because “I lOsT tHe FeElz.”

My older brother is the greatest guy I know and while he’s still married, he came close as fuk to divorce because his wife became an alcoholic with extreme bouts of depression and gained 100 pounds. Luckily she finally lost most of the weight and is on the right kind of meds but he had that thousand yard stare every time I’d see him. Numerous times he’s told me “Never get married!” And “Never have kids!”
Im sure your brother is a great guy, and Im sorry he is in that predicament. But seriously the greatest guy you know? If he is just that, he would have a line out the door of potential suitors that he could pick his match and equal. I am nowhere near the greatest guy in any of my friends or family's eyes and I had plenty of choices.

Second problem is (not saying your brother did this but most men in general) is that people just generally make bad decisions. They make bad decisions about money, about their health, about relationships with their family and friends, and so its not surprising also make bad decisions about who they marry. Most men arent looking at the entire package or they do not put themselves in the position to be actually choosy. Its more like "oh man, that girl has a nice arse and juicy boobs....im in love"

Im not quite sure why everyone's mind is blown at how this all turns out. People in general just make mediocre to poor decisions at best.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yes I think marriage is ultimately still like that. Marriage is based on money and kids and lasts based on money and kids. Marriage is not about love.
Id argue its always been about stability (you can call it money) and family love is just part of the equation.
IE - I dont need to be married to someone to love them. I got love for a a handful of my friends that I have none for almost my entire life, we have walked through the fire together.....but I have only signed one contract for one of those friends, and that was for me to take care of his child in case he and his wife were to pass unexepectedly at the same time. But for my other friends, there was no need to sign any "contract" to profess my feelings for them.
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Originally Posted By SPP1
Nope.

But they were all married before social media was a thing.

Draw your own conclusions.
A lot of truth in this from what I’ve seen
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Originally Posted By bananastand11
You found the unicorn.

I truly believe if a girl is addicted to social media it'll be doomed from the start.

Tits guy? Ass guy? No social media guy is the new crew to be.
There are definitely girls out there like that. Are they rare? Yes. Thats why you have to have your chit together if you are looking for someone like that.
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