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Originally Posted By CellyTech⏩
This ^^^^Lol ffs I feel sorry for all you boys that are 30+ and haven't been laid. We need non incel miscers in the vicinity of these boys to take them out for a drink and help them get laid. I've known all sorts of weird looking blokes over the years from different friends groups that never had much trouble getting laid. You just need to talk to women brahs thats it.
I can't imagine not getting laid in HS much less being over 20 and never getting poocy!
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Originally Posted By andyray⏩
I agree with you GENERALLY, but I think there’s something a bit more unusual going on in OPie’s case, and whatever it is it’s definitely psychological.i think a lot has to do with the circumstances that person is living in
there's been times in my life where i was banging a different sloot weekly and times when i went nearly full years without any
it all came down to my life circumstance, the former i was a bouncer in a nightclub, the latter working in construction full of dudes
i can see normal guys with not much of a social circle, doing some engineering degree etc who have little to no interaction with any girls go celibate for long periods
there's been times in my life where i was banging a different sloot weekly and times when i went nearly full years without any
it all came down to my life circumstance, the former i was a bouncer in a nightclub, the latter working in construction full of dudes
i can see normal guys with not much of a social circle, doing some engineering degree etc who have little to no interaction with any girls go celibate for long periods
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
There were only 3 types of people in my high school who didn't have sexMust be location based. Similar story here.
1. The profoundly disabled
2. Religious reasons
3. A couple of guys who were so beta they were literally scared of women
I even knew a guy who was a 2/10 fat ginger manlet with a horrific personality and even he had multiple sex partners. He was a living example of as long as you're willing to shoot your shot there's a chance
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
OP, for whatever it’s worth, I agree with you that conventional advice and suggestions are 100% not going to help in your situation.
Which brings me to my main Q, have you ever considered seeking help from any of the following:
Psychotherapy
Sex therapy
Sexual surrogacy
If not, can you please explain your reasons why you have chosen not to explore any of them.
Which brings me to my main Q, have you ever considered seeking help from any of the following:
Psychotherapy
Sex therapy
Sexual surrogacy
If not, can you please explain your reasons why you have chosen not to explore any of them.
Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
There’s a MASSIVE difference between guys who have poverty experience and those who have ZERO experience.
The former typically indicates a low value male who may not be the best looking, lacks for social status and generally has limited options in the dating market, but is otherwise a fairly normal dude. The latter, i.e. having zero experience, typically hints at psychological issues that are causing arrested development.
The former typically indicates a low value male who may not be the best looking, lacks for social status and generally has limited options in the dating market, but is otherwise a fairly normal dude. The latter, i.e. having zero experience, typically hints at psychological issues that are causing arrested development.
Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
Nah I think you’re off base here.
The problem is better characterised as some kind of psychological “block” that prevents the individual from making progress. It has little if any connection to porn.
It’s very common for such types to have the attitude OP possesses, which is that they’d rather die than see an escort or something. I have never quite figured out how it works but it’ll be linked to their beliefs and values around the topic and their pride system, and I suspect there will also be some kind of debilitating fear component.
It’s really unfortunate because a sexual experience with a woman, however it comes about, is likely a good stepping stone to remedying their ails.
The problem is better characterised as some kind of psychological “block” that prevents the individual from making progress. It has little if any connection to porn.
It’s very common for such types to have the attitude OP possesses, which is that they’d rather die than see an escort or something. I have never quite figured out how it works but it’ll be linked to their beliefs and values around the topic and their pride system, and I suspect there will also be some kind of debilitating fear component.
It’s really unfortunate because a sexual experience with a woman, however it comes about, is likely a good stepping stone to remedying their ails.
Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
Fair enough.
What about in your late 20s or early 30s?
What about in your late 20s or early 30s?
Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
It’s really not about sex. The fundamental problem is moreso that of a complete inability to make any sort of romantic/sexual inroads with women, which will ultimately lead to loneliness.
Like some other miscer suggested, there might be some kinda mild autism at play.
Like some other miscer suggested, there might be some kinda mild autism at play.
Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
Fraudlerian alt plz...I agree with you GENERALLY, but I think there’s something a bit more unusual going on in OPie’s case, and whatever it is it’s definitely psychological.

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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Sounds about right. Even the shortest dude in the whole school got some. Only ones that didn't and wanted too were just like you said, too scared to try. Knew one guy who was the definition of ugly beta, but a few years after high school I saw him in Walmart with a gf.There were only 3 types of people in my high school who didn't have sex
1. The profoundly disabled
2. Religious reasons
3. A couple of guys who were so beta they were literally scared of women
I even knew a guy who was a 2/10 fat ginger manlet with a horrific personality and even he had multiple sex partners. He was a living example of as long as you're willing to shoot your shot there's a chance
1. The profoundly disabled
2. Religious reasons
3. A couple of guys who were so beta they were literally scared of women
I even knew a guy who was a 2/10 fat ginger manlet with a horrific personality and even he had multiple sex partners. He was a living example of as long as you're willing to shoot your shot there's a chance
So with this as my life experience, it still kinda blows my mind when dudes who are lifting weights and aren't trolls in the face have trouble getting just one woman to comply. It's some mental block they have that I'll never be able to fully grasp.
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What do you think differentiates the way you deal with your life situation vs others who self-identify as incels and blame society, women, and dating culture for all their problems? What prevented you from going down that destructive rabbit hole?
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
Is this you OP?shouldn't be the case


Bro, you definitely can pull some sloots, SRS.
Holy fuk, I can't believe this.
I genuinely hope you find a woman one day.
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How many times have you actually gone out to bars or clubs in the last 40 years?
It is impossible to be a virgin or kissless if you’re actually trying.. there’s to many desperate HTC women out here.
Whatever the case just save yourself for marriage at this point. Your options are pretty dried up unless you’re willing to marry a single mom. That is if you’re really not an incel and have a successful career money, you could marry a girl a bit younger maybe 28 the youngest.
Just go out and live life op.
It is impossible to be a virgin or kissless if you’re actually trying.. there’s to many desperate HTC women out here.
Whatever the case just save yourself for marriage at this point. Your options are pretty dried up unless you’re willing to marry a single mom. That is if you’re really not an incel and have a successful career money, you could marry a girl a bit younger maybe 28 the youngest.
Just go out and live life op.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
You need to consider quality. Even most incels could probably find at least one drunk desperate fat chick but nobody wants to do that. So that eliminates a lot of optionsSo with this as my life experience, it still kinda blows my mind when dudes who are lifting weights and aren't trolls in the face have trouble getting just one woman to comply. It's some mental block they have that I'll never be able to fully grasp.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Brah, see my comment up-thread. Interested in what you think distinguishes ops' approach to his predicament vs your own.You need to consider quality. Even most incels could probably find at least one drunk desperate fat chick but nobody wants to do that. So that eliminates a lot of options
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Being that you are this pathetic and can't even sniff fulfilling your only reason for existing, what makes you feel qualified to judge anyone or anything in any aspect of life?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
It's not just a mental block some guys just don't have any friends and don't really go anywhere where they can talk to women. They work or maybe go to the gym and go home where they can browse the internet or play video games.Sounds about right. Even the shortest dude in the whole school got some. Only ones that didn't and wanted too were just like you said, too scared to try. Knew one guy who was the definition of ugly beta, but a few years after high school I saw him in Walmart with a gf.
So with this as my life experience, it still kinda blows my mind when dudes who are lifting weights and aren't trolls in the face have trouble getting just one woman to comply. It's some mental block they have that I'll never be able to fully grasp.
So with this as my life experience, it still kinda blows my mind when dudes who are lifting weights and aren't trolls in the face have trouble getting just one woman to comply. It's some mental block they have that I'll never be able to fully grasp.
Also not all guys wanna go to a bar just to bang some 5/10 bar sloot. Maybe if you're like 24 but nobody in their 30s or 40s want to do that
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08-29-2022, 11:51 AM
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It’s the miscer’s birthday.Being that you are this pathetic and can't even sniff fulfilling your only reason for existing, what makes you feel qualified to judge anyone or anything in any aspect of life?
If you’re such a winner, why do you always act like a fuking kunt, HayZues? You’re a miserable coper with a personality disorder.
It was just a roll of the dice that your affliction is that of a narcissistic sociopath and not a reclusive anxiety case. What makes you feel qualified to judge anyone or anything in any aspect of life?
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Op as others have said it is NOTHING to do with looks
You are simply in your comfort zone and you like it there. You tried (a bit) and failed, so you learned it was better not to try at all.
I’m not looking to be with anyone permanently either, but I have seen it from the other side of the fence at least. I also see it with people and their partners every day, most are pretty miserable and far more so if they have kids.
You are simply in your comfort zone and you like it there. You tried (a bit) and failed, so you learned it was better not to try at all.
I’m not looking to be with anyone permanently either, but I have seen it from the other side of the fence at least. I also see it with people and their partners every day, most are pretty miserable and far more so if they have kids.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
You are so pathetic that when you called out my golf and I challenged you to a game, you had to pretend to be banned to avoid meBeing that you are this pathetic and can't even sniff fulfilling your only reason for existing, what makes you feel qualified to judge anyone or anything in any aspect of life?
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Lol, maybe go easy on the guy bud. He doesn't sound like a typical entitled incel type who blames women and the world for his issues.Being that you are this pathetic and can't even sniff fulfilling your only reason for existing, what makes you feel qualified to judge anyone or anything in any aspect of life?
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Didn't you cheat on your wife?Being that you are this pathetic and can't even sniff fulfilling your only reason for existing, what makes you feel qualified to judge anyone or anything in any aspect of life?
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Kissing is meh, unless with a new hot girl
sex is good but gets boring after trying to not cum for 10+ mins for the girls pleasure
its also not worth the work if youre not a chad.. the amount of hoops you have to jump through is ridiculous
if youre a chad who can get hookups with ease without needing to date? thats the life.
but id just say youre coping with weird mental gymnastics and should just get out there for the experience before its too late.
I lost it late and still regret being a social retard and missing out on prime girls. you can NEVER get that time back
sex is good but gets boring after trying to not cum for 10+ mins for the girls pleasure
its also not worth the work if youre not a chad.. the amount of hoops you have to jump through is ridiculous
if youre a chad who can get hookups with ease without needing to date? thats the life.
but id just say youre coping with weird mental gymnastics and should just get out there for the experience before its too late.
I lost it late and still regret being a social retard and missing out on prime girls. you can NEVER get that time back
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
It's 100% a mental block. Every dry spell I ever had was due to me just not trying to shoot my shot when I had the chance. I kinda get why they're scared though because at times I've been too which is just silly since 99% of all my interactions with women have been positive so I can only imagine the trepidation that would come if all my prior experience with women was either negative or non existentSounds about right. Even the shortest dude in the whole school got some. Only ones that didn't and wanted too were just like you said, too scared to try. Knew one guy who was the definition of ugly beta, but a few years after high school I saw him in Walmart with a gf.
So with this as my life experience, it still kinda blows my mind when dudes who are lifting weights and aren't trolls in the face have trouble getting just one woman to comply. It's some mental block they have that I'll never be able to fully grasp.
So with this as my life experience, it still kinda blows my mind when dudes who are lifting weights and aren't trolls in the face have trouble getting just one woman to comply. It's some mental block they have that I'll never be able to fully grasp.
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Originally Posted By piramparam⏩
I agree. Might be low test but I don't think I'd be able to do sober sex with bar/club sloots. Usually takes a couple drinks for me to put my dck in a stranger. Alcohol definitely makes things easier but it can get you in a lot of trouble too.Why?
What can be so scary about it
Have you ever gotten drunk? That makes game come naturally
Hell, sober sex is for kids anyway.
What can be so scary about it
Have you ever gotten drunk? That makes game come naturally
Hell, sober sex is for kids anyway.
Originally Posted By ExPatriot⏩
This ^^^^
I can't imagine not getting laid in HS much less being over 20 and never getting poocy!
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
I'd agree for college but I didn't think it was that uncommon to graduate high school as a virgin. Figured most guys don't gain confidence until their early 20s.There were only 3 types of people in my high school who didn't have sex
1. The profoundly disabled
2. Religious reasons
3. A couple of guys who were so beta they were literally scared of women
I even knew a guy who was a 2/10 fat ginger manlet with a horrific personality and even he had multiple sex partners. He was a living example of as long as you're willing to shoot your shot there's a chance
1. The profoundly disabled
2. Religious reasons
3. A couple of guys who were so beta they were literally scared of women
I even knew a guy who was a 2/10 fat ginger manlet with a horrific personality and even he had multiple sex partners. He was a living example of as long as you're willing to shoot your shot there's a chance
Location makes a difference. The 80/20 rule was very real in my high school. I went to high school with the type of girls you see on Fresh & Fit now...they'd be juniors bragging about dating 18-20 yr olds. The combination of that and being a scared teen lead to a few of us relatively normal guys graduating as virgins. We were in the minority though and definitely had chances we were too scared to make a move on.
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Originally Posted By rentfreein⏩
Nope. Lol @ taking the word of husky the bus.Didn't you cheat on your wife?
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I didn't read thread, so maybe that's the case. However I have read other posts by OP and he's one of those alt right misc racist types. So no sympathy.Lol, maybe go easy on the guy bud. He doesn't sound like a typical entitled incel type who blames women and the world for his issues.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I retract my statement if that's the case. I haven't read any of his other threads.I didn't read thread, so maybe that's the case. However I have read other posts by OP and he's one of those alt right misc racist types. So no sympathy.
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…I didn't read thread, so maybe that's the case. However I have read other posts by OP and he's one of those alt right misc racist types. So no sympathy.

Oh, well damn, since you didn’t even bother to read the thread but have deemed him “one of those alt right misc racist types,” I guess you’re completely justified in whatever slight you choose to levy at him. You’re such a piece of chit.
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Originally Posted By PAU1⏩
Oh, well damn, since you didn’t even bother to read the thread but have deemed him “one of those alt right misc racist types,” I guess you’re completely justified in whatever slight you choose to levy at him. You’re such a piece of chit.
How mad are you on a scale from 1 to the next incel to shoot up a public gathering?
Oh, well damn, since you didn’t even bother to read the thread but have deemed him “one of those alt right misc racist types,” I guess you’re completely justified in whatever slight you choose to levy at him. You’re such a piece of chit.
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Originally Posted By iamdetermined⏩
I'm sure age and location make a difference. Muzzrlpress and I are around the same age and from places that are very culturally similar so it would make sense that we'd have a lot a similar experiences.I agree. Might be low test but I don't think I'd be able to do sober sex with bar/club sloots. Usually takes a couple drinks for me to put my dck in a stranger. Alcohol definitely makes things easier but it can get you in a lot of trouble too.
I'd agree for college but I didn't think it was that uncommon to graduate high school as a virgin. Figured most guys don't gain confidence until their early 20s.
Location makes a difference. The 80/20 rule was very real in my high school. I went to high school with the type of girls you see on Fresh & Fit now...they'd be juniors bragging about dating 18-20 yr olds. The combination of that and being a scared teen lead to a few of us relatively normal guys graduating as virgins. We were in the minority though and definitely had chances we were too scared to make a move on.
I'd agree for college but I didn't think it was that uncommon to graduate high school as a virgin. Figured most guys don't gain confidence until their early 20s.
Location makes a difference. The 80/20 rule was very real in my high school. I went to high school with the type of girls you see on Fresh & Fit now...they'd be juniors bragging about dating 18-20 yr olds. The combination of that and being a scared teen lead to a few of us relatively normal guys graduating as virgins. We were in the minority though and definitely had chances we were too scared to make a move on.
Also 16 y/o girls have been bragging about their 20 y/o bfs in every culture since time immemorial lol.
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“School shooter, incel…” you sound like a basic bitch on twitter.How mad are you on a scale from 1 to the next incel to shoot up a public gathering?
You’ve got a he wrong one.
Mad about what, you being a piece of chit? There are plenty of garbage people. Unfortunately you have extreme hubris, delusions of grandeur, see yourself as an internet superhero, and pollute the misc with your psychological issues on full display.
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Originally Posted By PAU1⏩
lmao“School shooter, incel…” you sound like a basic bitch on twitter.
You’ve got a he wrong one.
Mad about what, you being a piece of chit? There are plenty of garbage people. Unfortunately you have extreme hubris, delusions of grandeur, see yourself as an internet superhero, and pollute the misc with your psychological issues on full display.
You’ve got a he wrong one.
Mad about what, you being a piece of chit? There are plenty of garbage people. Unfortunately you have extreme hubris, delusions of grandeur, see yourself as an internet superhero, and pollute the misc with your psychological issues on full display.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
It doesnt seem like OP really cares that much for one thing. If you simply dont care that much, it will be a lot easier to cope than guys who really want this.Brah, see my comment up-thread. Interested in what you think distinguishes ops' approach to his predicament vs your own.
But I dont fully agree with your original comment. You make it sound like "blaming" society/women/culture is wrong. But its the truth. Some of you want incels to pretend like they dont understand whats going on.
The fact is we have gotten priced out of dating and families by dating apps and feminism
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