I’ve taken Biology, even graduated from SDSU, where I took Bio, Evolution Biology & Zoology..none of that changes the fact that there had never been produced a single example of species change from one to another..never. We have adaptations, epigenetics, & more or less survival of the fittest which is actually a tautology..but once again, an appeal to authority is not a valid argument just like it would be extremely weak of me & intellectually lazy if I simply stated..”God said it in the Bible, so it be so..”

Lol..you literally just stated “we made a cell”..is this a joke?

How can you say that there was a big bang when the poorest type of insulator is outer space because there is nothing space to insulate the heat, and this is the reason why stars do not form naturally. And the other reason why a big bang could not have occurred is because no amount of gravity can pull all matter into one infinitesimal region by any stretch of the imagination because the pressures exerting outward are thousands of times greater than the gravity pulling the matter in...Think?

Clearly you don't understand physics, so I'll explain it to you like a 5yr old..Specific dielectric strength is measured as the maximum voltage required to produce a dielectric breakdown through a material, and it is expressed as volts per unit thickness. For example; The dielectric strength for Plastic material varies from 1 to 1000 MV/m and the higher the dielectric strength the better the insulation properties are, and insulation is necessary for efficiency, because any loss of thermal energy within a system is equal to entropy.

So the rule is, the more efficient a system is, the better its insulation will be, and the higher the value is for the insulation in terms of efficiency, the greater the number of specifics there are in place.

And the more specifics there are in place, the greater the amount of order there is within the system, which is why specifics are equal to efficiency. And entropy is a product of order decaying into disorder, which is why disorder cannot produce an orderly system over time, and this is also why a cosmic big bang cannot generate the specifics needed to produce the level of order there is within the solar system.
Specific Conductance is the ability of a substance to conduct electricity, and it is the reciprocal of specific resistance, so conductance in physics means the flow of current through a liquid conductor. Specific conductance is defined as the conductance of the unit of volume for the cell, so the unit of specific conductance is equal to ohm⁻¹cm⁻¹ while an equivalent conductance is defined as the conductance of all the ions produced by a one gram equivalent of an electrolyte in a given solution.
But without the correct medium in place for the solution to react in, then the insulations efficiency for the flow of thermal energy is reduced, and this is due to a poor form of insulation within the system. And a vacuum is a light insulator for the purpose of the flow of thermal energy, which means that thermal energy cannot be stored within the vacuum of space without a mechanism in place first, because a vacuum is a poor insulator. So this is why a star could not have derived from the vacuum of space, but from a more complex system than what a star is itself.
The insulating properties of iron within a star is extremely high, and the iron present requires the input from a stronger source of energy than what the nuclear fission process is within a star in order for a star to begin its life cycle. A star cannot produce another star, because there is not enough thermal output from any group of stars to produce the necessary flow of energy to generate a new star, so the number of stars we have is limited, and the life cycle of a star is also limited.
When a star dies the thermal output is increased, but the dispersion rate is also increased at the same time, because there is no natural process to cause the thermal output of a star to be insulated within the vacuum of space. And though some dwarf stars, and supernova’s share material with each other, the process is still not generating a new star, because the thermal output is still being dispersed, rather than collected, so the universe is therefore limited to the number of stars present.

Bruh

What the fuk? Stars do not form naturally?!

?!?!?!

What the hell are you even saying? I find it amazing people like you exist.

I read your gobbledygook and all I can say is this is Dunning-Kruger, ladies and gents. You're misusing so many terms like dielectric and entropy that it makes me cry for our education system.

I'll bite and address one core argument. It was rightly questioned how matter could be squeezed in that manner. The answer is we know what is known as degeneracy pressure supplies that resistance. Both fermionic and neutron degeneracy gets overriden eventually if the gravity is strong enough, and that is how you get things like black holes.

You came into a religious thread, changed the subject to science, only for the purpose of belittling and promoting your scientific superiority.

The irony is found in this observation by Rothbard;

“In the present and more secular age, The divine right of the state has been supplemented with the invocation of a new God; science. State rule now proclaims to be ultra scientific, but is still collectivist and determinist. “

Remember, the intelligentsia is the first group to go along with extremist regimes, and Christians are among the last

You are going to have to do better than that lol..if you actually understand half of what you think you do, you might be convincing someone, but you don’t, so I guess your only retort is ad hominem attacks. No surprise here.

I mean I could spend the whole day addressing every single thing you said, but it's not worth it. As I said, you already misused terms like dielectric and entropy. I gave you one rebuttal to an argument you made prior regarding stars. Read about degeneracy pressure (both fermi and neutron).

Hey Dr Science, 10 billion other earth like planets, 0 life.

So? When you go out and see your car, it has a particular license plate. What were the chances it would be that one?

Did God Die For Our Sins?

That's rich considering Christians led entire campaigns of extremism and murdered a ton of people, including scientists.

It is mind-boggling for sure. The irony of ironies (and I use this term for a few things on this board, but this might top it all) is the trashing of science literally using scientifically based modern technology. Cant make this up. As you said, the right-wingers terrified of China and its progress and the US falling behind, at the same time denouncing basic science. People complaining about how bad education and schools are....and at the same time posting the earth is flat, 6000 years old, and denouncing basic science any high schooler understands. This is a major irony.Well snap we have someone who took an undergrad bio class....time to trash all those actually trained scientists in the field because they are overlooking whatever 2-bit mistake you are going on about, huh. Maybe you should complain to your school for the low-quality instruction since you apparently dont understand how science even works. You keep trying to get me into a debate about particulars, that's not my intention: search out the evidence, it is there in droves. Im telling you this is not how scientific questions are decided. Whether you like it or not, the correct origins of man will continue to be taught in bio curriculums across the country and worldwide- the field of biology will continue to be structured around this basic fact of evolution.Why did you not respond to that previous post about quantum physics? Your anti-intellectualism, and anti-science stances are a joke (those gosh darned scary lab coat wearing scientists....)

I merely stated how a reasonable person would respond to the militant christian OP. And that would be a great response, because you know it'll rustle them (imagine being rustled by facts. It's like be rustled that 24 is an even number. What does that even mean?) The reason it devolved into a thread about science is because some of the misc, including you, is laughably denying basic science. Hell if OP has no problem getting into the face of others at the freakin supermarket, why not be consistent and let others get in his face about man's correct origins. Only fair, right?

You gave no “rebuttal”..simply stating “wut..stars don’t form naturally…lol”..is not a rebuttal.

I explained to you in detail how the BB is not a possibility, if you can’t argue specifics..guess you are correct, there’s not much else to be said.

Lol..umm that’s the point.. . 4 billion odd years is nowhere near enough time to randomly stumble upon the information required to build life. There is a finite number of life forms(generation), because time itself is finite in relation to life on the planet. It's not possible

how long until you realize that a higher omniscient being constructed science as you see it?

you couldn't possible look outside the box as you were constructed inside of it. I hope you find yourself humbled and, when you do, that it is not as painful as one may lead to believe.



stay humble in your little box Math goyim, guess who constructed mathematics as we know it ? An omnipotent being

How many millions did were killed by Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and how many women and children did the Weimar Republic butcher in the last 100 years? Now how many did Christians kill in the last 100 years?

Apples to apples? You’re just cherry picking time frames to meet your narrative. Ultra secular groups are more of a clear threat to the modern world.

If this omnipotent being is the God of the Bible, he is a ****ing ****ggot psychopath

dead srslulz, these deaths (many of the figures disputed for a variety of reasons, intentionalism/functionalism, famine, man-made etc etc) aren't done in the name of science. Religion on the other hand, there's a whole lot of bloodshed in the name of that.

So shut the phuck up and worshiping your genocidal maniacal GodThe God of your Bible ordered his promised people to commit genocide in the promised land. He also directly killed everyone in the flood (lol @ that entire story). Whatever it is, it is unhinged.

The no true Scotsman fallacy is just that, ****gggot.

Christians killing people has nothing to do with Christianity. The first commandment says do not kill. Fault of man =/= fault of Christianity.

Back to you. You have a superiority complex, something called pride. Satan's main characteristic. Not good.

Insults are how you have discussions? Interesting. There’s that lack of a moral gauge that anti-Christ groups seem to lack.

Matthew wrote how to identify false prophets. You fit the description quite well

The core message is always believe in one God don't worship idols - 1st and 2nd commandment.
But if you go to any church today youre gonna see idols - whether its a statue of jesus on a cross or saints or mary or whatever else - idols.

Christianity today is NOT based on the teachings of Jesus.

WHEN U LOOK AT TEACHING OF JESUS - HIS MESSAGE WAS IN ARAMAIC - THE LANGUAGE THE PEOPLE SPOKE - TODAY WE DONT HAVE ANY COPIES OF THAT - what u have today are things that are based on writings in coney greek- the earliest smallest credit card size was 40-70 years after the time of jesus- the first semicomplete manuscript 300 years later - around 4th century - who were the scribes that wrote it we dont know- who heard from who - these gospels many of them are unknown authors

Dude you better hope there's no God cause saying sh*t like that is even worse than just saying there isn't one.

You, a human who has access to a third of his own brain are attacking God, creator of heaven and Earth. Want to know why God works in mysterious ways? Cause we're not God.

I already quoted this, but the ten commandments are ignored by God from his own direct orders to his people. Dumb af argument to make.

Or is God a do as I say not as I do kinda guy? Probably that, because he's a weird ****er who demands attention and praise all the time. The demiurge is Satan. You're worshiping the Devil. Yahweh is a ****ing regarded ****ggot
Third of the brain? Talking of thirds, Satan and his crew rebelled (a THIRD of ALL angels). That's quite a significant number. Maybe he has a point that "God" is just a childish and jealous brat.

Sure, God works in mysteries ways. Just like a mad person.

Anyway, back to your brain point. There's no evidence to suggest that utter ****, so stop spouting nonsense.

When did Misc turn from a forum full of incels trying to get laid into a forum of incels that thump the bible?

The idea of a god who will cast people who don't believe in him to hell, while he will not show any proof of his existence, is pretty fuking hilarious. That and he allows people to suffer. Your religion sucks

Buckle up, because hard times INCREASES religion

Low quality response not addressing specifics in my post.

Which one of the bazillion deities from various faiths are we talking about here? And no, they arent all the same, not even close.

"How long until you realize it is not the case a higher omniscient being constructed science as you see it?"
-see how easy that is to just say anything?

How about this one...."How long until you realize 7+15 equals 29?".

Evidence for literally any of this? Lol'd at the grand "wisdom" quote from Socrates, with the big ol Greek philosopher bust for extra oomph. Not that you can say Socrates said anything specific at all since we dont have any extant written records from him, but where does Plato even say Socrates said that quote? Do you just look up 'deep intellectual' quotes on websites without even checking whether person actually said them?

If someone claimed they didnt knowanything- that 4+4=8, that triangles have 3 sides, that dogs exist, that the earth is round, etc, I wont call that person the wisest man alive, I'd consider them an idiot and wasting my time.

I sure hope not. I am sick of the bible thumpers trying to turn the USA into a theocracy

Fool's hope. When you have nothing else, of course it goes up because of despair.

LOL at the demiurge worshipers ITT.

Not really going to read anything you say. Pride goes before the Fall. I feel bad for you, and sorry most of all. It is a liberating feeling to know where I am going in the end, do you know what I mean?

You need to direct that pointless anger elsewhere. Is God a do as I say not as I do? Uh, yes. Commandments were made for man. Jesus never killed anyone, his father killed many babies. Guess what? Those babies had to freaking die.

You need to understand the idea of there being an exponentially higher being.

All your god has to do to get people to believe in him is to show himself to us. If he appears in the sky one of these days and people will believe in him. Until then, only a gullible coward would believe in him

Well, they do suck. I agree. However, people are sick of people like you calling everyone racist you disagree with