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post 1673818793 12-30-2022, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid
thank you kimm! Based


I’m gonna try get my GF to start eating gluten again, she’s been brainwashed to think it’s gonna make her feel bloated and get fat
8-10% body fat here

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Your girlfriend is by far more right than you.


Calories = how much a human typically weighs but but not absolute

Put 3 people on 2000 calorie diets one of all fat, one of all protein, one of all carbs.

They all 3 will look massively different, and will also all weigh different but close






Eating healthy fats/protein you WILL burn more fat


Getting timing down you will burn or preserve more muscle




Also for gluten* she is extremely right in, eating gluten free I look way more shredded, I feel cleaner energy. When I eat hi sugar carbs of HFCS or juices those mainly go towards liver then FAT as well.


Sorry to break it to you OP but your girlfriend is actually on par with my diet and is totally right


Granted she also has a baseline of a macro split/total calories to follow
Eating "clean" doesn't mean eating "healthy"

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Originally Posted By kimm4
I think people are starting to go all over the place in this thread with things that don't matter at this point.

You have a fat girl that needs to lose weight/fat. Most people who decide they want to try to lose weight try to clean up their diet first. I do believe they try to make healthier choices and they do this before they even figure out what kind of calorie intake they need.

I a firm believer you need to keep it simple...let's not over complicate things. Figure out your deficit, set your protein amount and divide your remaining calories the way you see fit. Move your body more by throwing in some exercise or some type of activity...something that has you moving. Let your diet do the work.

If you get to a point where you want to take things to a higher level, that's when you start fine tuning and playing around with other things.
> You have a fat girl that needs to lose weight/fat.

Do we? We can't even say that. We have a girl trying to lose weight who has been described as fat by a known peedophile sick deranged fukhead who is man in his late 20s who routinely drools over girls as young as 13 years old. On tik tok, which somehow makes it even worse and it was pretty fukign bad already.

So she might just be 10lbs overweight and wants to get in a little better shape before summer for all we know. Only fat by the twisted standards of a man unable to get aroused by normal women in their 20s unless they look like they're still in Junior High - something he fuking admitted in this very thread, so it's not just crazy me making wacky things up here.

Your fat loss plan? Yeah, good stuff and most of us know this anyway (in fact I actually agreed with the first person who said to do a KISS approach with this allegedly fat girl), not my fault the thread itself was built around the broken premise that the only consideration is calories in vs calories out, I didn't make this piss thread, I'm just posting in it.
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Originally Posted By InspectahDeck
Calories in vs calories out is a large part but to simplify it to the extent you do shows your ignorance. For many people simply lowering calories reduces metabolism and they end up plateauing quickly, therefore needing to employ other techniques
Lol it probably reduces their metabolism by like 150cal per day
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Originally Posted By InspectahDeck
Calories in vs calories out is a large part but to simplify it to the extent you do shows your ignorance. For many people simply lowering calories reduces metabolism and they end up plateauing quickly, therefore needing to employ other techniques
This is bs. If you're in a deficit and tracking properly you're not going to plateau quickly. It doesn't work that way at all...
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Originally Posted By Olympia2018
8-10% body fat here

Trained over 5000 people in my life

220 5 11.


Your girlfriend is by far more right than you.


Calories = how much a human typically weighs but but not absolute

Put 3 people on 2000 calorie diets one of all fat, one of all protein, one of all carbs.

They all 3 will look massively different, and will also all weigh different but close






Eating healthy fats/protein you WILL burn more fat


Getting timing down you will burn or preserve more muscle




Also for gluten* she is extremely right in, eating gluten free I look way more shredded, I feel cleaner energy. When I eat hi sugar carbs of HFCS or juices those mainly go towards liver then FAT as well.


Sorry to break it to you OP but your girlfriend is actually on par with my diet and is totally right


Granted she also has a baseline of a macro split/total calories to follow
Lol fuk off, my GF literally said to me "Its NOT just CICO, its because (Insert some random BS reason about hormones and gluten) why shes not losing weight".

If we cannot agree that CICO is the underlying reason why someone is not losing fat, then I have nothing more to say. Like, I'm done. There is no chance someone is gonna stall and be a fat fuk because they arent 'eating health protiens/fat' or because they are choosing to eat "gluten" foods if they are expending more calories than consuming.

Sure, you can do different things which perhaps have an influence on your mood, but I've been fat bloatlord, i've been shredded, now I'm now lean, and its fukin calories that got me there everytime. Like I said, my diet is chit, I eat mcdonalds, pop tarts and all types of chit and I have poverty genetics. FOH with your cope post
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
The question is WHY do some people live their lives eating the same calories as they exert without ever feeling hungry ever in their lives, while other people are fat and gaining weight but feel desperately hungry if they are in a CICO balance even briefly. That is to do with the content of the diet, state of your gut biota, timing of eating, metabolic training, types of exercise, all sorts fo things.
the former is a Perthmaxxer and the latter is a Sydneycel

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Originally Posted By CreigDavid
Like, I'm done. There is no chance someone is gonna stall and be a fat fuk because they arent 'eating health protiens/fat' or because they are choosing to eat "gluten" foods if they are expending more calories than consuming
Well, I guess since we all know what an honest guy you are, you're done and will not be replying to him or anyone else who disagrees with you here, which is many. You said you're "done" and obviously you are not so stupid as you do not grasp what that means and will not undermine the little credibility you have and immediately run back to reply to me or anyone else in this thread after saying you were out.

So, while you will not reply to this -- to anyone else who isn't a clown, your hormonal state, particularly when cutting calories, it matters.

Eating foods that do not suppress hunger, that do not make you feel satiated or if you have imbalanced with ghrelin or leptin, what that means is you are going to feel like you are starving.

Here's a real easy question: Two people are dieting. One feels mostly full with only minor hunger pains. The other feels like they are starving and constantly crave sweets or breads and never feels full.

Of these two, which has a greater chance of sticking to their diet?

Real easy answer, of course, and both these people could be of similar body types and take in around the same calories but feel very differently based on dietary choices. So, when someone just blanket statement says things which make it seem like those two individuals are in the exact same boat, they're fuking delusional.

FOH with this delusional lying peedo fuk, glad he's out of this piss thread.

> If we cannot agree that CICO is the underlying reason why someone is not losing fat

Btw, love the goal post shifting.

"CICO Is everything!! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!!" vs "CICO is the underlying reason for losing fat"

Hmm, two very distinct messages there and here the peedo OP is, doing 100% exactly as it was predicted he would do andshift the goal posts. As if a single person disagreeing with the OP said calories are not important. This is how you know someone is full of chit, when they talk out their ass and have to backpeddle and squirm around like a snake, rather than just being half a man and saying they misspoke or were off.
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Obvs Cico is king so I agree with your overall argument but if we're getting more nuanced you're not gonna build the same physique on 2000 cals of cake as on 2000 cals of chicken and broccoli.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Well, I guess since we all know what an honest guy you are, you're done and will not be replying to him or anyone else who disagrees with you here, which is many. You said you're "done" and obviously you are not so stupid as you do not grasp what that means and will not undermine the little credibility you have and immediately run back to reply to me or anyone else in this thread after saying you were out.

So, while you will not reply to this -- to anyone else who isn't a clown, your hormonal state, particularly when cutting calories, it matters.

Eating foods that do not suppress hunger, that do not make you feel satiated or if you have imbalanced with ghrelin or leptin, what that means is you are going to feel like you are starving.

Here's a real easy question: Two people are dieting. One feels mostly full with only minor hunger pains. The other feels like they are starving and constantly crave sweets or breads and never feels full.

Of these two, which has a greater chance of sticking to their diet?

Real easy answer, of course, and both these people could be of similar body types and take in around the same calories but feel very differently based on dietary choices. So, when someone just blanket statement says things which make it seem like those two individuals are in the exact same boat, they're fuking delusional.

FOH with this delusional lying peedo fuk, glad he's out of this piss thread.

> If we cannot agree that CICO is the underlying reason why someone is not losing fat

Btw, love the goal post shifting.

"CICO Is everything!! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!!" vs "CICO is the underlying reason for losing fat"

Hmm, two very distinct messages there and here the peedo OP is, doing 100% exactly as it was predicted he would do andshift the goal posts. As if a single person disagreeing with the OP said calories are not important. This is how you know someone is full of chit, when they talk out their ass and have to backpeddle and squirm around like a snake, rather than just being half a man and saying they misspoke or were off.
Nope, CICO is King

And Girls are at their peak around 15-21, if that makes me a p3do then so be it, so are your ancestors and the majority of men for 99.9% of human history
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
Obvs Cico is king so I agree with your overall argument but if we're getting more nuanced you're not gonna build the same physique on 2000 cals of cake as on 2000 cals of chicken and broccoli.
Yeah I agreed with that completely.

But my GF was telling her shes gonna be stuck being fat until she fixes her hormones and chit, I'm like don't tell her that BS, CICO is all it takes to get where she needs to be. And then we got into a debate and then I made this thread.
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In on another CICO thread full of surivorship bias and confirmation bias of people that have never had any issues with the other factors so of course they don't exist.
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid
Nope, CICO is King
Nope, saying you're "DONE" and then not immediately replying in a thread is the real King.
Originally Posted By CreigDavid
And Girls are at their peak around 15, if that makes me a p3do then so be it
Yes, yes it does.
Originally Posted By CreigDavid
Yeah I agreed with that completely.

But my GF was telling her shes gonna be stuck being fat until she fixes her hormones and chit, I'm like don't tell her that BS, CICO is all it takes to get where she needs to be. And then we got into a debate and then I made this thread.
Yes, now that you've been schooled and screamed and disagreed with it -- now you come crawling back and say it's correct.

Completely, even.

Recap:

1 CICO only: A calorie of cake is no different than a calorie from kale, your initial statement
2 Dumb girl: Sister isn't losing weight b/c her hormones off. (who knows what her diet is or isn't)
3 Calories are important but there are other factors: Everyone else, people you said were dead wrong up until about post #100. You now agree.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Yes, yes it does.
By definition it doesn't.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Nope, saying you're "DONE" and then not immediately replying in a thread is the real King.

Yes, yes it does.

Yes, now that you've been schooled and screamed and disagreed with it -- now you come crawling back and say it's correct.

Completely, even.
I’m done is colloquial speech, boomer

Lol at 15-21 being p3do, brainwashed cuck

Schooled where? Drewdarden tried that and I put him in his place. You’re so desperate to get a W on me but it ain’t gonna happen boyo
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Originally Posted By JUSA
3 Calories are important but there are other factors: Everyone else, people you said were dead wrong up until about post #100. You now agree.
wrong

The thread was made about my gf sisters, I said calories in Vs calories is out is all she needs

Protein only came into the conversation when discussing miscers because we lift, and you need muscle for muscle growth/preservation. Therefore I agree, that’s a relevant variable for US but not for HER.
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid
I’m done is colloquial speech, boomer

Lol at 15-21 being p3do, brainwashed cuck

Schooled where? Drewdarden tried that and I put him in his place. You’re so desperate to get a W on me but it ain’t gonna happen boyo
Yeah, I should feel awful here. I called the 30 year old ****** who lusts after 15yr old adolescents a ****phile when the correct term is like "****philic disorder" or whatever the DSMV is calling it these days.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Yeah, I should feel awful here. I called the 30 year old ****** who lusts after 15yr old adolescents a ****phile when the correct term is like "****philic disorder" or whatever the DSMV is calling it these days.
you realize a 15 YO is developed right? Do you even biology?
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Originally Posted By Gronnie
By definition it doesn't.
this, the guy is dumb AF
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Calorie deficit is important. But also things like eating fiber to pull out all the water weight and sh!t like that helps. Proper sleep habits help with visceral fat. Intermittent fasting. Nutritious foods vs eating horrible sh!t loaded with sugar and high fructose corn syrup, etc.
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid
you realize a 15 YO is developed right? Do you even biology?
Maybe developed body wise yes...but that's where I leave it. Not ready for the type of stuff you're all talking.

I'm a female and 15 is too young. They are not ready for any of that even if they think they are srs...
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Originally Posted By LargePeter
I'm gonna eat nothing but ice cream and burgers for the next six months at a caloric deficit and lose a bunch of fat? Is that correct? Fuark. Been doing it all wrong.









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Originally Posted By kimm4
Maybe developed body wise yes...but that's where I leave it. Not ready for the type of stuff you're all talking.

I'm a female and 15 is too young. They are not ready for any of that even if they think they are srs...
Even mentally, it’s a common misconception that the brain develops at 25. I don’t wanna get into it with you because you’ve been cool
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid
I look a 1000 times better than you and I’m probably stronger than you too

My gf looks prepubescent but she’s legal, feelsgoodman
You just said she has D boobs. That's not looking prepubescent.
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Originally Posted By Legz422
You just said she has D boobs. That's not looking prepubescent.
I was just trolling to rustle lol because people say I’m on that p3do time, but she does look younger than her age
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Originally Posted By LargePeter
I'm gonna eat nothing but ice cream and burgers for the next six months at a caloric deficit and lose a bunch of fat? Is that correct? Fuark. Been doing it all wrong.
another McDonald’s dieter to prove you ****g0ts wrong










This chit is just calories. Anyone that says otherwise is coping
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Mines the same way

Ignores everything I say and then one day, some package comes and its a box of jenny ****ing craig packaged meals..

they still exist?..


she thinks carbs are bad but orders takeout a few times a day
orders a burger or pizza and ignores the crust or bun

basically starves herself and then eats like that

I gave up on her.
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid
Even mentally, it’s a common misconception that the brain develops at 25. I don’t wanna get into it with you because you’ve been cool
Go sit in a classroom full of 15 yr olds and tell me how mature they are mentally LOL...

I'm not here to argue and on that note I'm out.
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Originally Posted By Nicklol
Mines the same way

Ignores everything I say and then one day, some package comes and its a box of jenny ****ing craig packaged meals..

they still exist?..


she thinks carbs are bad but orders takeout a few times a day
orders a burger or pizza and ignores the crust or bun

basically starves herself and then eats like that

I gave up on her.
lol feels

Bro the one thing that rustled me hard is that she paid for some fitness program from bodybuilding.com (I thought she was a miscer when I saw her opening the website lmao), I asked her what she’s doing on the site and she said she’s following some sloot workout. Told her to stop wasting her money on that chit and that I’d tell her what to do for free, but she said she likes the workout/it’s an investment so I gave up aswell.

Originally Posted By kimm4
Go sit in a classroom full of 15 yr olds and tell me how mature they are mentally LOL...

I'm not here to argue and on that note I'm out.
I could make agood point but as said I don’t wanna argue about this chit with you because you’ve been cool. I appreciate your input on the thread anyway
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