we decided to wipe out life..not God. We are responsible for not only our lives but the treatment of all life

We killed the dinosaurs? Fcking LMAO.

okay, let's take DNA as an example. For your model to work (Abiogenesis) data would HAVE to make decisions, that's where your fault lies. One of the greatest discoveries of 21st century in Biology is that the foundation of life is a digital form. The DNA MOLECULE STORES INFORMATION IN A FOUR CHARACTER DIGITAL CODE. Watson discovered all this in the 50's, and it has created quite he predicament in both chemical evolutionary theory (the theories of the orgin of first life) & theories of biological evolutionary as well I.e.how you get new forms of life from pre-existing forms. To build ANYTHING in Biology you HAVE to have CODE. You have to have information...information cannot make decisions on it's own..and it will never stumble into making substantial gains within itself without outside direction..

Genomes of animals were created by a genius. Here is part of the mouse genome on chromosome number 2, maybe someone can explain the function of this sequence of nucleotide bases...

gcagtggaca caggaatacg cagtggacac aggaatatgc agtggagaca ggaatacgca gtggacacag gaatacgcag tggacacagg aatacgcagt ggacacagga atacgcagtg gagacaggaa tatgcagtgg agacaggaat acgcagtgga cacaggaata cgcagtggac acaggaatac gcagtggaga ctggaatatg cagtggagac aggaacacgc agtggagaca ggaatatgca gtggagacag gaatacgcag tggagacagg aatacgcagt ggacacagga atacgcagtg gagacaggaa tacgcagtgg agacaggaac acgcagtgga gacaggaaca cgcagtggag acaggaatac gctgtggaga caggaataca ctgggtcggt ttggacgttg gtgctgggga ttgaagcaag ccttgaacgc gaccagacag tgctgtaact gaactgcttc ttccctgggg cagtgtttct ttcagttccg aggttctgct cacctggttt ctaatttatg cagataaatc tctgggtcaa gcataagtgt gcctacaact ttagcccttg gaagggaaag gcaggggatt gggagtttaa ccccaacctg cactgcgcag tgagactcta tctcaaaata ataatattgc agttggtaat cgggtctgtg aatccaaaat agtcctgaaa tatcatgttt tatcagtctc ttttataaaa acctaacaat attaccaaaa agccattgga ctgtctggag tactggagtt gggagcatta gaaaatgagg aaacagacag tggctctctg ctgctgcctg tctgaaggtg tagaaggtcc tccattggta gaggtttcaa gcagaaggca gcagtattgc cattcatctc tctgtctttc tccttcacag gagtatttct tgcaagcaga gttgacaagt aacgttttga aaacaggagt ggtccactgc tgtgtggggc agtgcaacaa caccatccct gtggacacca tccttaccat gaagaaactg cctatcactt atgtacgttc actgtgggag ttaagtcact caagcacctt ttcttgcttg tgcgttatgt gtctgtctag gttctggatg agggaggtaa tggagtcgtt tctataatgc ttccttcccc aagagttttc tatggaagca tggcagatgt gagttctgcc tttttgtcag agatggaacc aatgatctaa agtgagttgg gttggatgac tgctatttcc tgggtgtgct aaagacttcc agcctgggag gttgagctgt gctgagagac ctcagagggg agctgtttgc ctggaggacc tggttcaatc tttctttgtt ctttatctct ttcttattct ctggtgctag aaactgagca tgctagttgt gtactccagc gctcagcagt ccctagttct ttatctcctg atgggatgat tgtgttagtc ctctaaagga ctgggatgga gttgagtcta gatcagtgat cagtgggtgt gcacagccac aatgaattag catgttagca gatgtgacag taattcggcg ctttttggtg aaaaattttt atccttagat tgtcccttac tctttttctt atccatcctt gtagagcaac aggaaggaaa acaagggtgg ctacctctgc cactcatgtg cagagcagcg catcgggcct ttggcattcc tgactgcctc

This is only a small part of the 2,700,000,000 nucleotide bases that can create a mouse. If anyone believes that this is a result of random chance then they are mentally retarded.

Regarding the topic OP originally posted, to get to a point where we can even send probes over to scan for habitable planets, we’d have to have some sort of control over traveling both space and time. In essence, we’d already be at a point where finding a habitable planet is probably unnecessary. And the information from those probes probably wouldn’t reach us in many lifetimes anyway.

As such an avid debunker why don't you try to debunk your own god and come to the conclusion it's all based on your own faith and there's no actual evidence. "I believe it can't be random chance therefore my theory of the specific god I believe in must be correct and everybody who believes otherwise deserves to be insulted" is not any kind of logical thinking.

Given the distances it will only ever work if we find a way to fold space or something. Just going really fast won’t cut it. Given the size of space it’s impossible that there isn’t other intelligent life out there, but we almost certainly will never encounter it.

As such an avid debunker why don't you try to debunk your own god and come to the conclusion it's all based on your own faith and there's no actual evidence. "I believe it can't be random chance therefore my theory of the specific god I believe in must be correct and everybody who believes otherwise deserves to be insulted" is not any kind of logical thinking.

Given the distances it will only ever work if we find a way to fold space or something. Just going really fast won’t cut it. Given the size of space it’s impossible that there isn’t other intelligent life out there, but we almost certainly will never encounter it.

did you want to discuss the flood now?

My belief isn't based on the fact that abiogenesis and the Darwin model of evolution is false..it is based on how God has acted in my life, and His undeniable presence directing it

I think the issue is using science to determine if God exists is wrong. It's the wrong tool. They can only measure the material world firstly which we believe in a metaphysical world. I don't use a ruler to figure out how much I weigh (wrong tool).

Mind you I will push back on your point - still need to figure out which God that is
A Hindu, Christian, Muslim and Sikh can all claim that how God is present in their life (but they can't all be right).

My belief isn't based on the fact that abiogenesis and the Darwin model of evolution is false..it is based on how God has acted in my life, and His undeniable presence directing it.I was an atheist most of my life, that all changed when I sought after God..something atheists never think of doing...

I'm not even an atheist and I think intelligent design could definitely be a thing. To think we just happen to get the theory and specific god correct this time and all other religions before and after that seems naive. Just like believing every single story in the bible literally happened the way it's written down.

Looks like you also fail to realize that the intelligent design theory and evolution theory can both be correct at the same time.

Again, I think there are factors of evolution that can be true..as I mentioned like Epigenetics..but that is as far as it goes..IMO. I was raised by a Jew (step-dad) and what most people do not realize is that there is a large portion of jews, that though they acknowledge God and their religious holidays, they still believe in Evolution..this is how I was raised..thinking the same. It wasn't until I was about 27 did I start to question the many holes in that theory, first thing that came to mind was the Cambrian Explosion and the discontinuities of the formation of life..it just wasn't adding up when I started to really look into it.


It's not naive to say that the Christian/Jewish God is the true God. Let me make a suggestion..give Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis a read through, and tell me the conclusions you come to. I'll buy you the book, or even send you the money to purchase it..it's one of the best explanations of why the Christian God and no others, that I know of. Just give it a read and decide for yourself. Please

I'm genuinely infinitely perplexed at how a man can look at the Earth & not instantly realize it was designed where it is to sustain life for a set amount of time

Humanity knew this several thousand years ago yet we question it today because we've actually regressed in a lot of ways due to the human condition



It is so blatantly obvious that the entirety of existence is fabricated from a divine presence on a different esotericism; one that oversees everything

As complex as human composition appears to us, we are nothing in comparison to our creator




Yes, at most a small colony of people might live indoors on our moon someday, but humanity will never leave this planet because it simply isn't possible; there's nowhere to go

why was I expecting a halfway intelligent response..SMH
You clearly have not been burdened by an overabundance of education.

I ask a direct question and all you do is resort to personal attacks. That means you lost.

That book is available for free online, for if you're gonna recommend it to other people. I went to a Christian elementary school where they read us stories from the bible and made us sing Christian songs. Used to really love those stories as a kid. I mostly agree with Christian morals already anyway and the mother of my children is catholic as well. I might give it a read out of interest but there's about a 0,01% chance I'd ever convert to a specific religion.

Sure but throwing a ball isn't flying the ball.

I can't throw a ball around a corner or do anything about it if I miss.

A plane can take off then decide where it wants to go, change direction, etc and that's because in our atmosphere a plane can use it to change directions. There's no easy way to do that in space because jets would have to be on all surfaces of a ship to make it fly like a plane.

So, a spaceship is just like a thrown ball.