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04-17-2023, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
When/if the legislation is challenged in court, it will be the letter of the law, not tweets from the sponsoring senator, that will be under scrutiny.So THE STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE is wrong then.
Got it.
"Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery..."
Got it.
"Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery..."
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
So why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill then?When/if the legislation is challenged in court, it will be the letter of the law, not tweets from the sponsoring senator, that will be under scrutiny.
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04-17-2023, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You're acting stupid again and that's not what I asked you dumbfuk. One more time...Reducing homelessness in at risk youth seems like a good thing to me.
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill then???
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04-17-2023, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
exactly. so not telling parents.That legislation already existed. This Bill amends the existing legislation by adding an additional exception to the obligation to report within 72 hours.
because that is what people trying to protect children do, not tell parents
04-17-2023, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
There were already exceptions in place. This adds an additional exception. It does not change age of consent.exactly. so not telling parents.
because that is what people trying to protect children do, not tell parents
because that is what people trying to protect children do, not tell parents
04-17-2023, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
I'm guessing the sponsoring senator also thinks reducing homelessness in at risk youth is a good thing.You're acting stupid again and that's not what I asked you dumbfuk. One more time...
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill then???
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill then???
04-17-2023, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Centrifugal logic again lol. Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.I'm guessing the sponsoring senator also thinks reducing homelessness in at risk youth is a good thing.
You're acting stupid again and that's not what I asked you dumbfuk. One more time...
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill then???
Honest question dude, do you honestly think acting stupid and going around in circles helps your "arguments?"

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04-17-2023, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Maybe read the Bill and see for yourself.Centrifugal logic again lol. Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.
You're acting stupid again and that's not what I asked you dumbfuk. One more time...
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill then???
Honest question dude, do you honestly think acting stupid and going around in circles helps your "arguments?"
You're acting stupid again and that's not what I asked you dumbfuk. One more time...
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill then???
Honest question dude, do you honestly think acting stupid and going around in circles helps your "arguments?"

If you can find the provision to remove children from their parents/homes, please share the section and line.
04-17-2023, 01:31 PM
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that is scary. the medical system will do that though, and with what has been seen the last few years I'm not surprised that Democrats are backing this, removing of sex organs and giving hormone drugs to young kids. .
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill???Maybe read the Bill and see for yourself.
If you can find the provision to remove children from their parents/homes, please share the section and line.
If you can find the provision to remove children from their parents/homes, please share the section and line.

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04-17-2023, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
so it does allow the shelters to not tell parents?There were already exceptions in place. This adds an additional exception. It does not change age of consent.
04-17-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
yea that is some bullchit if I ever heard itYes, that's all it does.
04-17-2023, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Manwhile, Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery.Yes, that's all it does.
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill???

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04-17-2023, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
DunnoManwhile, Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery.
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill???
Why would the STATE SENATOR WHO SPONSORED IT, AND IS CHEERING IT'S PASSAGE lie about what is in his very own bill???

Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
"Sec. 1. RCW 13.32A.082 and 2013 c 4 s 2 are each amended to read as follows:
(1)(a) Except as provided in (b) of this subsection, any person, unlicensed youth shelter, or runaway and homeless youth program that, without legal authorization, provides shelter to a minor and that knows at the time of providing the shelter that the minor is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission, shall promptly report the location of the child to the parent, the law enforcement agency of the jurisdiction in which the person lives, or the department, unless a compelling reason applies as defined in subsection (2) of this section.16
(b)(i) If a licensed overnight youth shelter, or another licensed organization with a stated mission to provide services to homeless or runaway youth and their families, shelters a child and knows at the time of providing the shelter that the child is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission, it must contact the youth's parent within seventy-two hours, but preferably within twenty-four hours, following the time that the youth is admitted to the shelter or other licensed organization's program. The notification must include the whereabouts of the youth, a description of the youth's physical and emotional condition, and the circumstances surrounding the youth's contact with the shelter or organization. If there are compelling reasons not to notify the parent, the shelter or organization must instead notify the department.
(ii) At least once every eight hours after learning that a youth receiving services or shelter under this section is away from home without permission, the shelter or organization staff must consult the information that the Washington state patrol makes publicly available under RCW 43.43.510(2). If the youth is publicly listed as missing, the shelter or organization must immediately notify the department of its contact with the youth listed as missing. The notification must include a description of the minor's physical and emotional condition and the circumstances surrounding the youth's
contact with the shelter or organization.
(c) Reports required under this section may be made by telephone or any other reasonable means.
(2) Unless the context clearly requires otherwise, the definitions in this subsection apply throughout this section.
(a) "Shelter" means the person's home or any structure over which
the person has any control.
(b) "Promptly report" means to report within eight hours after the person has knowledge that the minor is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission.
(c) "Compelling reasons" include, but are not limited to((circumstances)):
(i) Circumstances that indicate that notifying the parent or legal guardian will subject the minor to abuse or neglect as defined in RCW 26.44.020; or
(ii) When a minor is seeking or receiving protected health care services.
(d) "Protected health care services" has the same meaning as provided in chapter . . ., Laws of 2023(Senate Bill No. 5489).
3) When the department receives a report under subsection (1) of this section, it shall make a good faith attempt to notify the parent
(4) Nothing in this section prohibits any person, unlicensed youth shelter, or runaway and homeless youth program from immediately reporting the identity and location of any minor who is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission more promptly than required under this section."
(1)(a) Except as provided in (b) of this subsection, any person, unlicensed youth shelter, or runaway and homeless youth program that, without legal authorization, provides shelter to a minor and that knows at the time of providing the shelter that the minor is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission, shall promptly report the location of the child to the parent, the law enforcement agency of the jurisdiction in which the person lives, or the department, unless a compelling reason applies as defined in subsection (2) of this section.16
(b)(i) If a licensed overnight youth shelter, or another licensed organization with a stated mission to provide services to homeless or runaway youth and their families, shelters a child and knows at the time of providing the shelter that the child is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission, it must contact the youth's parent within seventy-two hours, but preferably within twenty-four hours, following the time that the youth is admitted to the shelter or other licensed organization's program. The notification must include the whereabouts of the youth, a description of the youth's physical and emotional condition, and the circumstances surrounding the youth's contact with the shelter or organization. If there are compelling reasons not to notify the parent, the shelter or organization must instead notify the department.
(ii) At least once every eight hours after learning that a youth receiving services or shelter under this section is away from home without permission, the shelter or organization staff must consult the information that the Washington state patrol makes publicly available under RCW 43.43.510(2). If the youth is publicly listed as missing, the shelter or organization must immediately notify the department of its contact with the youth listed as missing. The notification must include a description of the minor's physical and emotional condition and the circumstances surrounding the youth's
contact with the shelter or organization.
(c) Reports required under this section may be made by telephone or any other reasonable means.
(2) Unless the context clearly requires otherwise, the definitions in this subsection apply throughout this section.
(a) "Shelter" means the person's home or any structure over which
the person has any control.
(b) "Promptly report" means to report within eight hours after the person has knowledge that the minor is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission.
(c) "Compelling reasons" include, but are not limited to((circumstances)):
(i) Circumstances that indicate that notifying the parent or legal guardian will subject the minor to abuse or neglect as defined in RCW 26.44.020; or
(ii) When a minor is seeking or receiving protected health care services.
(d) "Protected health care services" has the same meaning as provided in chapter . . ., Laws of 2023(Senate Bill No. 5489).
3) When the department receives a report under subsection (1) of this section, it shall make a good faith attempt to notify the parent
(4) Nothing in this section prohibits any person, unlicensed youth shelter, or runaway and homeless youth program from immediately reporting the identity and location of any minor who is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission more promptly than required under this section."
04-17-2023, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
But Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery.Dunno
It's HIS bill for fux sake. So why would he lie bro?
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04-17-2023, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Dunno.But Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery.
It's HIS bill for fux sake. So why would he lie bro?
It's HIS bill for fux sake. So why would he lie bro?
The Bill is above.
Maybe tweets aren't truth?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Or maybe.. just maybe now he could use his shiny new bill to do exactly what he just fuking bragged about? You're the misc tranny advocate so use your fuking head.Dunno.
The Bill is above.
Maybe tweets aren't truth?
The Bill is above.
Maybe tweets aren't truth?
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04-17-2023, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
How?Or maybe.. just maybe now he could use his shiny new bill to do exactly what he just fuking bragged about? You're the misc tranny advocate so use your fuking head.
Where is that provisioned in the Bill?
04-17-2023, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Dunno..How?
Where is that provisioned in the Bill?
Where is that provisioned in the Bill?
But Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery.
It's HIS bill for fux sake.
We can keep this up all evening long tranny lover. OR you could simply grab your store-bought and surgically implanted tranny balls and answer the question.
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04-17-2023, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
How can I answer a question about someone else's tweet?Dunno..
But Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery.
It's HIS bill for fux sake.
We can keep this up all evening long tranny lover. OR you could simply grab your store-bought and surgically implanted tranny balls and answer the question.
But Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery.
It's HIS bill for fux sake.
We can keep this up all evening long tranny lover. OR you could simply grab your store-bought and surgically implanted tranny balls and answer the question.
I posted the Bill. The contents aren't secret.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
"I can't form an opinion or have any thoughts of my own about something, even if given the person in question's exact words."How can I answer a question about someone else's tweet?
I posted the Bill. The contents aren't secret.
I posted the Bill. The contents aren't secret.
Said nobody ever.
Admit it, you know WTF he said, and you probably have a positive opinion about it too. You just refuse to say it.. Am I right?
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04-17-2023, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
I'm not sure what your on about."I can't form an opinion or have any thoughts of my own about something, even if given the person in question's exact words."
Said nobody ever.
Admit it, you know WTF he said, and you probably have a positive opinion about it too. You just refuse to say it.. Am I right?
Said nobody ever.
Admit it, you know WTF he said, and you probably have a positive opinion about it too. You just refuse to say it.. Am I right?
The contents of the Bill are public.
Politicians lie.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
LMAO!!! It's HIS bill!I'm not sure what your on about.
The contents of the Bill are public.
Politicians lie.
The contents of the Bill are public.
Politicians lie.
But ok, lets try it from this angle instead.. Since you are so passionate and supportive of said bill - AND since you are so adamant that the owner of said bill is wrong, why not reach out to him for a correction? After all, it is his exact words on it that is the source of this confusion.. no?
He says "My bill will do XYZ!"
JFC says "You're wrong!"
Annnnndd... go.

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04-17-2023, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
You think he wrote it?LMAO!!! It's HIS bill!
But ok, lets try it from this angle instead.. Since you are so passionate and supportive of said bill - AND since you are so adamant that the owner of said bill is wrong, why not reach out to him for a correction? After all, it is his exact words on it that is the source of this confusion.. no?
He says "My bill will do XYZ!"
JFC says "You're wrong!"
Annnnndd... go.
But ok, lets try it from this angle instead.. Since you are so passionate and supportive of said bill - AND since you are so adamant that the owner of said bill is wrong, why not reach out to him for a correction? After all, it is his exact words on it that is the source of this confusion.. no?
He says "My bill will do XYZ!"
JFC says "You're wrong!"
Annnnndd... go.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You think he wrote it?
"Washington State Senator Marko Liias announced on Twitter that his state’s senate passed SB 5599, a bill that would give the state government the power to take children away from their parents if the parents do not consent to the child’s gender transition surgery, in early March. At that point, the bill was headed to the House. It just passed the House and is now headed back to the Senate for consideration of the changes made.
Liias, the sponsor of the bill, cheering the bill’s passage, said......"
Yeah.. I kinda do.Liias, the sponsor of the bill, cheering the bill’s passage, said......"
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