Dont return the 1500

This is a troll job

I already did that... i guess it was the least i could do for being a POS

Was going to troll but saw OP's join date.

OP this might have been asked or mentioned in the thread but is there a possibility there is another guy in the picture? Usually when women try to initiate a breakup they have someone else in mind, because women are selfish, terrible creatures with no regard for a man's feelings.

everyone says the same **** that "their gf is different or whatever", but knowing her, she doesn't seem like that type of person. she's a homebody. the timeline and how everything unfolded, it doesnt seem like it was another guy in the picture.

I think it's a troll job too. Nobody is this big of a pussy. But he is a 2012 join, so it would be a pretty devoted one.

OP, you need to go NC now. You’re embarrassing yourself. Don’t compromise on kids and surrogacy BS. I almost made the same mistake when my ex gave me the bait and switch on having kids. You only have one life. Bite the bullet, go NC, and get over it (getting serious in the gym again helped me immensely with this).

Probably best to let it go and not fukk it up the next time. In between you should work on yourself and stop being such a degenerate bottom feeder. You even self describe as autistic and have a porn addiction, that’s fukking pathetic. Not unheard of but you’ll never be in a successful healthy relationship like that

You are the male version of the stereotypical 21st century post-feminism millennial whore

Die in a fire, faaggot

Crazy to think your girl is probably using a straw to slurp piles of cum off the floor from her first bakers dozen gang bang right now and the best you can do is simp on bumble lmao

Such is life as a male. Sorry to say. At some point you have to decide which way you want it and looks like your attitude told her all she needed to know. You can move on. It’ll suck for a min but you’ll rebound and learn your lesson to appreciate the good things from those who truly **** you and not let your sexual desire blind you.

Do this now and get the grief out of your system in the present of the situation

I mistakenly immediately moved onto another girl and currently married and happy

The ex messaged me fuking 8-9 years later and it stirred up all kinds of sht that I should of gotten out of my head years ago

Get this out of your system now and make sure it’s closed and done with and not some deep buried guilt you have to get clarity over later in life

I’m thankful my wife is patient and amazing and willing to let me process this dumb ex sht and be there for me

Thanks for sharing if you’re srs with your OP and best of luck dude

The way that women operate is they make decisions based on their emotions, THEN find logical reasons to justify those emotions.

That is why she "blew up over the oven light being on".

She lost attraction to you, then started to look for reasons WHY, to justify her emotions with logic. And then told you these things, which you took seriously. Gaslighting, even. You began taking responsibility for the issues, but it mattered little because the issues didn't matter. Because you are a man and use logic. You are a problem solver.
You took action, went to therapy, tried to do what she wanted, fix things. But it was and is fruitless. Be very wary of a woman becoming more and more bitchy and naggy. It means she is losing attraction.

Nothing else matters, but pure, raw attraction. And she lost it long ago.

she didn't blow up per se. just kindly asked why i didnt turn it off... but it became a discussion, once again, eating into the night about how i sometimes "start things without finishing them", i got fed up of yet another discussion and threw a hissy fit. not wanting to hear about myself after a day at work. i will be fair and say that she is saying these things in a calm and polite manner. my brain just shuts off because it's just another complaint and nag

but she pretty much said the same thing u said. she was finding herself constantly annoyed and frustrated at me and caught herself lashing out. she was catching herself lashing out at me at things she normally wouldnt lash out at

Did not read srs

Life will teach you not to love or attach yourself to women. Fist yourself and move on.

The ex cared as much for you, as I did for your post OP.

And I can tell you I didn't read it at all.

How many creampies do you think that sloot has taken since she told you to take a hike?

.Seems like the type of girl to get creampied, queef it out, and slurp it up off the floor srs

She stayed with op even when she knew he was an autistic coomer. She must have zero self respect, but still more than op lol

This. After reading this sad sack thread and no pics, it sounds like she really dodged a bullet here.

OP, you 12?

In the same bat right now... Women can be hard work.

You can't get her back at this point. Especially not by trying to negotiate with her.
Work on yourself (you know what you need to work on).
Use "her" as motivation for the short-term if need be but you will eventually realize you're not doing this for her you're doing it for yourself and things will get better as time goes on regardless of your dating situation.

This.

Act AS IF you are fine. Be nice to her, smile, and offer to even help her move out. DO NOT BE A DICK. Don't talk to her about the relationship. Don't ask her back.

Once she sees that she 'may' have a change of heart because she will realize that you can be good without her. And that will turn her on and make you appear strong in her eyes.

Begging and crying for her to come back otoh will only cement in her eyes that she did the right thing and it will be a giant turn off seeing how weak you are.

That is your only hope. Assuming you want her back of course.

Also for Gods sake do NOT show her this thread. In the OP when reading that it almost seemed to me that you were writing it knowing she will see it.

Don't do that.

Be a MAN. A strong man. That doesn't mean being an azz either. Just a man with options and who will be fine.

Now I just read this post and as I said.....your begging will be a giant turnoff to her. It will completely tell her that she made the right decision. STOP TRYING TO CHANGE FOR HER.

Be yourself.

Also don't take anything she says seriously right now. When women break up with guys....especially guys they hold resentment against like she does you....they can get very cold hearted and beeootch mode. She will seem like a different person. Don't take it personally. They ALL do that. But they are emotional creatures and can change 180 degrees in a day.

Just stop texting her. Stop acting like you are hurt and depressed. Be nice to her as if this is the best thing that could have happened.

that may work, but being emotionless and detached is why she's leaving in the first place.

i needed to show my vulnerability and how much i care.

she's saying everything u said though... that i am coming off as desperate and that i shouldnt give up my dreams of having multiple children. in the end, she didn't want to rear children, give up her independence and that's cool. i can see why people would value their independence and life

initially, she promised 1 kid to see how things go. but the fights and conflicts just made it all too much for her. she cried too many nights off of our fights while i just stood there emotionless, sometimes not even trying to comfort her. i was so toxic

LMAO guys legitimately get truly loyal women young and are 10/10 marriage material and all they can think about is smashing other chicks who are ratchet/trash and will end up broken and with a house full of cats. Men are stupid and Misc is beyond doomed with women. She's the perfect woman but I wanna bang that sloot who just got DP'd last night. If a girl is that young and somewhat obsessed with you in a healthy way, should run with that to the bank. Because as always, these hoes ain't loyal. Missed the 10/10 opportunity for a perfect family life.

Wrong wrong and double wrong.

I never said to be detached and emotionless. I said to ACT AS IF you are the happiest, most care free, not a care in the world guy that there is. Be nice to her. Smile. This sounds like it isn't really you which is why I said. ACT AS IF.

Just do not BRING UP the relationship or talk about anything to do with love romance or past history.

Act as if....

Some good advice in this thread... I'll use some myself with my gf, who wants to leave.

Same thing applies with her. Act as if....

I could tell you all some stories about me. Won't go into detail other than to say one example is I cheated on a gf of 4 years....a girl who is a 9.1 and who makes mid 6 figures. Every guy in the world hits on her. Could get almost any guy she wanted.

The girl I cheated with got pregnant. My gf found out. And yes she was beyond pissed. But I never groveled. I never came off as desperate. I never let her see me weak. I apologized of course many times but I always acted as if.....as in IF we did break up? I would be just fine. She respected that and told me that many times.

She never broke up with me.Think of that homies.....

Girls respect ALPHA men. Men who they think are strong and who can protect them. Men who do fun and exciting things with them and who get their juices flowing....in all ways. They don't want weak groveling men. That dries them up like the Sahara Desert. It bores them.

OP I have no idea how toxic your relationship with your gf is but it sounds to me as if you are a depressive person to be around. Not fun. Not exciting. Do the opposite. She still may move out but if you don't go crazy.....get into top shape.....start going out with friends and other girls.....be a fun guy? She will want to come back at some point.

Then it is up to you whether you want to or not.

And btw the oven thing? IF she wanted to fight about that than she 1000000000000000% WANTED to pick a fight as a justification to break up. Trust me on that. That was entirely pre planned.

Nothing you could have done.....and begging and SAYING you will change won't help. Only time and actions will.

Regarding the oven situation: i turned on the oven light, but she was the last one to take the food out of the oven. WHY WHY would that be on my mind? why would I be tracking that? secondly, I didn't even take a bite out of my food yet... i didnt even have a CHANCE to clean up and tidy up the area. then, it turns into phrasing questions like... "hmm... you know, you have a habit of starting things but not finishing them. do you think you have a problem with not finishing things you start?"...


there's way more **** in the OP that I left out which I was unhappy in the relationship in the first place. i just always had doubts in the back of my head.

I have insecurities that certain men like Brad Pitt, Ronaldo, Leonardo, all the guys you see on TV and social media... have 1000s of women wanting to have sex with them in any all sorts of different way. I asked myself and wondered... hmm... would any woman hesitate to give those guys oral sex? Why should I fee less than and 2nd place in my own relationship? Shouldn't I feel like king and royalty? Granted, I communicated I might not be deserving that since I myself am withholding my love and not loving someone fully. Also, my sex drive really isn't that high or needy. Sex was like once a week sometimes even less. Even in those moments of infrequency, I couldn't get what I wanted and be fulfilled? Not like I was demanding it everyday. overall, i dont blame the sex part on her. i visibly was withholding my love. cant expect her to be 100% submissive

Of course, I did not want to be the burden and look after all of the house chores. It was just a bunch of fights piled onto each other about her tone and delivery.

- I accidentially dropped the dog gate to let the dog out to potty (I didn't want to stress the dog out by giving her eye drops BEFORE she pottied). Gf disagreed, and the dog had already ran downstairs... it took all of 60 seconds to get the dog back upstairs (no big deal right?). "Do you ever use your brain sometimes?" she says. she makes a fuss that I made her late to her appointment... how?? it was literally 60 seconds the dog ran downstairs

- I was tracking a package delivery for her. I was downstairs listening for it. The delivery got missed, no one was there to sign for it. She comes down crying and saying she can't count on me for anything. I told her that I was listening for it the entire time. Turns out... our doorbell was broken.

- One time the garage door was left opened. She says to me... "you know what? **** you". I was like dude, obviously I didn't mean to left the door open. My stuff got exposed and was at risk too. I didn't purposely leave it open. Tells me "I'm clueless". Turns out... my garage got accidentially programmed to our neighbor's padlock. Our neighbor was accidentially opening/closing my garage...

- Her words... "by the time I've blown up on you", it's never really the moment at hand but rather multiple occasions leading up to it.