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Thread: Roger Scruton: Why is intellectualism mostly Left?

post 1686284813 07-11-2023, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
No.
Yes it is. So you think aboriginal pygmies and Japanese people have the same level of intelligence?
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Yes it is. So you think aboriginal pygmies and Japanese people have the same level of intelligence?
The theory (or opinion) you're presenting is unsupported.
post 1686285013 07-11-2023, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The theory (or opinion) you're presenting is unsupported.
We broke the NPC. Refused to answer the question and repeating his talking point.
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
Yeah that is pretty much it. Conservatism itself is inherently resistant to change and therefore automatically hostile to creativity and free thought. It's also why so many artists are left.
Explain the benefits of breaking up the nuclear family, and how it's empowering to be a single mother.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Explain the benefits of breaking up the nuclear family, and how it's empowering to be a single mother.
Explain the benefits of breaking up the extended family in favor of nuclear families, and how it isn't a capitalist plot to divide and conquer labor.
post 1686285673 07-11-2023, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
We broke the NPC. Refused to answer the question and repeating his talking point.
You keep presenting an unsupported opinion as though it's fact.
post 1686286123 07-11-2023, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You keep presenting an unsupported opinion as though it's fact.
You disputed the IQ of Sub Saharan Africa being under 70 even though it's a verifiable fact you can find on countless sources.

The international studies of mathematics, science, and reading give a sub-Saharan African IQ of 66. The four data sets can be averaged to give an IQ of 68 as the best reading of the IQ in sub-Saharan Africa.

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-24627-002

This view is supported. Here's some reading to open up your NPC mind:



Putting that aside. Answer this simple question: Do you believe the average intelligence of African pygmy people and Japenese people are the same?
post 1686286343 07-11-2023, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
You disputed the IQ of Sub Saharan Africa being under 70 even though it's a verifiable fact you can find on countless sources.

The international studies of mathematics, science, and reading give a sub-Saharan African IQ of 66. The four data sets can be averaged to give an IQ of 68 as the best reading of the IQ in sub-Saharan Africa.

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-24627-002

This view is supported. Here's some reading to open up your NPC mind:



Putting that aside. Answer this simple question: Do you believe the average intelligence of African pygmy people and Japenese people are the same?
Richard Lynn's work has been exposed as fraudulent. He deliberately biased his samples and in some cases fabricated data. He is a known white supremacist.

That book has also been harshly criticized and debunked in the scientific community.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
You disputed the IQ of Sub Saharan Africa being under 70 even though it's a verifiable fact you can find on countless sources.

The international studies of mathematics, science, and reading give a sub-Saharan African IQ of 66. The four data sets can be averaged to give an IQ of 68 as the best reading of the IQ in sub-Saharan Africa.

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-24627-002

This view is supported. Here's some reading to open up your NPC mind:



Putting that aside. Answer this simple question: Do you believe the average intelligence of African pygmy people and Japenese people are the same?
Intelligence is not determined by, nor correlated with, "race"
post 1686286553 07-11-2023, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
Richard Lynn's work has been exposed as fraudulent. He deliberately biased his samples and in some cases fabricated data. He is a known white supremacist.

That book has also been harshly criticized and debunked in the scientific community.
Show me evidence it's been exposed as fraudulent
post 1686286603 07-11-2023, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Intelligence is not determined by, nor correlated with, "race"
So you think African pygmies and Japanese people are equal intelligence? Simple yes or no answer
post 1686286933 07-11-2023, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Show me evidence it's been exposed as fraudulent
Selecting tests based on the results they give is fraudulent.
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
Explain the benefits of breaking up the extended family in favor of nuclear families, and how it isn't a capitalist plot to divide and conquer labor.
You think leftists support an extended family?
post 1686287123 07-11-2023, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Selecting tests based on the results they give is fraudulent.
That's not the case. They pick IQ tests because it's a reasonable measure of intelligence.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Show me evidence it's been exposed as fraudulent
It's easily googled bro.

Here is a thread:

https://www.reddit.com/user/howtospe...ynn_the_fraud/

He's widely regarded as a neonazi pseudoscientist.
post 1686287383 07-11-2023, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
That's not the case. They pick IQ tests because it's a reasonable measure of intelligence.
That's not what Lynn and Meisenberg did.
post 1686287523 07-11-2023, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
It's easily googled bro.

Here is a thread:

https://www.reddit.com/user/howtospe...ynn_the_fraud/

He's widely regarded as a neonazi pseudoscientist.
Some countries had low sample sizes, yawn. The IQ of Sub Saharan Africa being under 70 has been proven by countless studies. Clearly that group of people is less intelligent than Europeans.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That's not what Lynn and Meisenberg did.
Indeed, for several countries, Lynn did not even administer any kind of test at all. In others, he cherrypicked orphans who were not literate, sometimes using sample sizes as low as 7 people.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Some countries had low sample sizes, yawn. The IQ of Sub Saharan Africa being under 70 has been proven by countless studies. Clearly that group of people is less intelligent than Europeans.
It actually hasn't. But you don't care about facts so there is no part arguing with someone so low IQ.
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Just like the guy said in ghostbusters. The real world expects results and academia doesnt.
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They used their racist preconception that dark-skinned people are less intelligent to claim that the chosen intelligence tests measured intelligencebecauseperformance on the chosen tests correlated with skin color.

Circular logic is circular.

And fraudulent.
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Originally Posted By JoeBidet⏩
It's easily googled bro.

Here is a thread:

https://www.reddit.com/user/howtospe...ynn_the_fraud/

He's widely regarded as a neonazi pseudoscientist.
lol it has not been debunked, your fake "imright.com" link doesn't disprove anything.

how about looking at the world with your own eyes, name 1 sub-saharan african country that is great.
lets look at Haiti - where the average IQ 67
the people there are sub-saharans and they eat dirt cookies and kill each other. They killed all the Whites , then they killed off all the half Whites.

68IQ is considered mentally retarded

on the same island is the Dominican Republic which is a country of mulattos - the average IQ is 82 and its alot nicer than Haiti


you can look at other nations with this type of outlook, pick 1. You will notice 1st world nations all have 1 thing in common - they all have 95+ average IQ.

a 70 IQ populace will never create a 1st world nation PERIOD. 85ish is where you start getting a barely functioning society.

America will collapse because it is being flooded by the 3rd world countries sending us its lower class retards (which are all sub 80IQ)
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Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
Just like the guy said in ghostbusters. The real world expects results and academia doesnt.
Except unproductive academics have short careers.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
lol it has not been debunked, your fake "imright.com" link doesn't disprove anything.

how about looking at the world with your own eyes, name 1 sub-saharan african country that is great.
lets look at Haiti - where the average IQ 67
the people there are sub-saharans and they eat dirt cookies and kill each other. They killed all the Whites , then they killed off all the half Whites.

68IQ is considered mentally retarded

on the same island is the Dominican Republic which is an island of mulattos - the average IQ is 82 and its alot nicer than Haiti


you can look at other nations with this type of outlook, pick 1. You will notice 1st world nations all have 1 thing in common - they all have 95+ average IQ.

a 70 IQ populace will never create a 1st world nation PERIOD. 85ish is where you start getting a barely functioning society.

America will collapse because it is being flooded by the 3rd world countries sending us its lower class retards (which are all sub 80IQ)
Psychometrics? Not even once.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Psychometrics? Not even once.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
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Like I said, selecting a test that provides the results one wants to see is fraudulent.

When one seeks to investigate a latent construct, careful attention should be paid to the psychometric properties, particularly validity across populations, of measurement scales.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
If you take an average kid from subsaharan Africa, raise him from infanthood in a prosperous family in the US/Canada/Aus/UK, and measure his IQ in adulthood, do you think it will read 60 something?
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
lol it has not been debunked, your fake "imright.com" link doesn't disprove anything.

how about looking at the world with your own eyes, name 1 sub-saharan african country that is great.
lets look at Haiti - where the average IQ 67
the people there are sub-saharans and they eat dirt cookies and kill each other. They killed all the Whites , then they killed off all the half Whites.

68IQ is considered mentally retarded

on the same island is the Dominican Republic which is a country of mulattos - the average IQ is 82 and its alot nicer than Haiti


you can look at other nations with this type of outlook, pick 1. You will notice 1st world nations all have 1 thing in common - they all have 95+ average IQ.

a 70 IQ populace will never create a 1st world nation PERIOD. 85ish is where you start getting a barely functioning society.

America will collapse because it is being flooded by the 3rd world countries sending us its lower class retards (which are all sub 80IQ)
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
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Originally Posted By AlfBundy⏩
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
Measuring exposure to, and/or experience with, Western education isn't the same as measuring intelligence.

Some folks want, perhaps need, to believe the two constructs are the same - they are not.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Measuring exposure to, and/or experience with, Western education isn't the same as measuring intelligence.

Some folks want, perhaps need, to believe the two constructs are the same - they are not.
Math, physics, logic... all white man concepts
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