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Athletes following COVID-19 vaccination: evidence and misinformation
08-15-2023, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Just going by what you’re posting….Oh that's just a line from the abstract.
Did you not click the link?
Is this another weird (silly) accusation of lying when the link is right in front of you?
Did you not click the link?
Is this another weird (silly) accusation of lying when the link is right in front of you?
Weird that you won’t answer whether or not you agree with the statement….
08-15-2023, 01:32 PM
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#92
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Weird that you wanna stay in a thread without reading anything under discussion.Just going by what you’re posting….
Weird that you won’t answer whether or not you agree with the statement….
Weird that you won’t answer whether or not you agree with the statement….
But if that's how you like to roll, enjoy yourself

08-15-2023, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I’m discussing the 2nd paragraph of the thread. You must’ve put it there for some reason…right?Weird that you wanna stay in a thread without reading anything under discussion.
But if that's how you like to roll, enjoy yourself
But if that's how you like to roll, enjoy yourself

08-15-2023, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
How is it Florida's fault? And is he so frail that without meds, he'll die?He made both decisions (grown adult man) and told me the messages when he returned, capiche?
08-15-2023, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Riiiiiight, you followed the "Protocols" by showing up wearing a mask, standing there for exactly fifteen minutes, grabbed a plate and left........ "protocols."Ahh so you are Dave!
Busted.
One holiday of 30, never "queefed" just discussed state and DC area protocols.
How long have you been Dave 22?
That is a very sneaky trick!
Busted.
One holiday of 30, never "queefed" just discussed state and DC area protocols.
How long have you been Dave 22?
That is a very sneaky trick!
08-15-2023, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's not? Guess we better all mask up again and get our fourth booster shot.....According to whom?
08-15-2023, 02:13 PM
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08-15-2023, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I’m discussing the 2nd paragraph of the thread. You must’ve put it there for some reason…right?If that's what you wanna do, go for it

08-15-2023, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
I put line breaks in the excerpt from the abstract for readability. I dunno that I'd consider that a paragraph.I’m discussing the 2nd paragraph of the thread. You must’ve put it there for some reason…right?
Do you believe Mercola's post on RFK Jr's site was peer-reviewed? Do believe Mercola's post counts as "confirming"?
08-15-2023, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Never started a thread about those, but if you do perhaps I’ll chime in on them. Right now I’m discussing the contents of this thread. By your refusal to answer we’ll just accept that you don’t believe the statement you posted which says:I put line breaks in the excerpt from the abstract for readability. I dunno that I'd consider that a paragraph.
Do you believe Mercola's post on RFK Jr's site was peer-reviewed? Do believe Mercola's post counts as "confirming"?
Do you believe Mercola's post on RFK Jr's site was peer-reviewed? Do believe Mercola's post counts as "confirming"?
No confirmed cases of athletes experiencing cardiac complications after mRNA vaccination have been reported. Most athletes only reported mild side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
Then again we know you like to post things that you don’t agree with.
08-15-2023, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
All that was offered in counter were posts by Mercola and the anti-vaccine crew.Never started a thread about those, but if you do perhaps I’ll chime in on them. Right now I’m discussing the contents of this thread. By your refusal to answer we’ll just accept that you don’t believe the statement you posted which says:
No confirmed cases of athletes experiencing cardiac complications after mRNA vaccination have been reported. Most athletes only reported mild side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
Then again we know you like to post things that you don’t agree with.
No confirmed cases of athletes experiencing cardiac complications after mRNA vaccination have been reported. Most athletes only reported mild side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
Then again we know you like to post things that you don’t agree with.
(Not by you, of course, that's not how this strategy works).
08-15-2023, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
No counters and yet you still don’t believe it.All that was offered in counter were posts by Mercola and the anti-vaccine crew.
(Not by you, of course, that's not how this strategy works).
(Not by you, of course, that's not how this strategy works).
08-15-2023, 03:55 PM
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08-15-2023, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You still don’t believe the following statement:Wat?
No confirmed cases of athletes experiencing cardiac complications after mRNA vaccination have been reported. Most athletes only reported mild side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
08-15-2023, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
You've taken no stance on anything, just heckling and fishing for a gotcha.You still don’t believe the following statement:
No confirmed cases of athletes experiencing cardiac complications after mRNA vaccination have been reported. Most athletes only reported mild side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
No confirmed cases of athletes experiencing cardiac complications after mRNA vaccination have been reported. Most athletes only reported mild side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
All good if that's whatcha like to do

08-15-2023, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
My stance is that the bolded statement is false. What’s yours?You've taken no stance on anything, just heckling and fishing for a gotcha.
All good if that's whatcha like to do
All good if that's whatcha like to do

08-15-2023, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
I think there may be cases of myocarditis in athletes due to covid and or vaccination. But as yet, there doesn't seem to be any confirmed cases of cardiac deaths or arrest caused by vaccines in athletes.My stance is that the bolded statement is false. What’s yours?
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/...d-vaccinations
It does seem McCollough misled people, either intentionally or unintentionally.
08-15-2023, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
So you disagree with it as well. Not sure why that was so hard for you to say…I think there may be cases of myocarditis in athletes due to covid and or vaccination. But as yet, there doesn't seem to be any confirmed cases of cardiac deaths or arrest caused by vaccines in athletes.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/...d-vaccinations
It does seem McCollough misled people, either intentionally or unintentionally.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/...d-vaccinations
It does seem McCollough misled people, either intentionally or unintentionally.
08-15-2023, 05:19 PM
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The vaccine that is so safe and effective still needs large media outlets and paid shills to defend it on the daily.
Let's completely ignore the fact that excess deaths of the young and healthy are still on the rise even though they we never being caused by covid.
Let's completely ignore the fact that excess deaths of the young and healthy are still on the rise even though they we never being caused by covid.
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08-15-2023, 05:29 PM
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08-15-2023, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Where are you seeing that no deaths are caused by, nor related to, covid infection?The vaccine that is so safe and effective still needs large media outlets and paid shills to defend it on the daily.
Let's completely ignore the fact that excess deaths of the young and healthy are still on the rise even though they we never being caused by covid.
Let's completely ignore the fact that excess deaths of the young and healthy are still on the rise even though they we never being caused by covid.
08-15-2023, 06:51 PM
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Lmao glad to see other people didn’t let this slide
No confirmed cases of athletes experiencing cardiac complications after mRNA vaccination have been reported. Most athletes only reported mild side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
Fukking love the data that guys working with lmfao.
08-15-2023, 07:00 PM
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08-15-2023, 07:01 PM
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08-15-2023, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Seems odd that he gets so upset about people commenting on what he posts. Perhaps he should consider that an indication the things he posts don’t have any merit. This is especially true when he can’t even bring himself to admit whether or not he thinks the claim is accurate.Did you read what I quoted?
But he’s shown repeatedly that he has no desire to engage in meaningful conversation. From now on I think I’ll just respond to all his threads with this article and link.
Why do mRNA Covid jabs cause myocarditis and autoimmune diseases?
What is the impact of the unusual immune system changes they provoke?
Do their risks increase with each dose, and if so, does offering them to anyone now make sense?
Most of all, are the shots safe long-term?
None of these questions have quick answers. mRNA shots are hugely complex, and scientists have almost no long-term data on them. Before 2020 they were just another unproven biotechnology slowly moving through early-stage human trials.
But answers must be found. Over one billion people received the mRNAs, making them maybe the largest medical experiment ever. It is now clear the clinical trials from Pfizer and Moderna missed crucial risks and side effects, including menstrual disruption, myocarditis and other cardiovascular problems, and autoimmune crises.
Some scientists are trying to perform the crucial work that’s needed.
In only the last few weeks, researchers in Switzerland, Hong Kong, and Italy have published papers suggesting mRNA-caused myocarditis is more common and may hurt the heart for longer than previously known, while South Korean cardiologists reported almost two dozen fatal mRNA-caused myocarditis cases.
Only yesterday, immunologists in Hungary reported the mRNAs over time cause people to produce more of a type of antibody that does not destroy the coronavirus, building on findings last winter from German researchers.
Meanwhile, Japanese scientists have published many studies and case reports on potential autoimmune side effects of the mRNAs, including thyroid disease and rheumatoid arthritis.
Seeing a trend?
The United States has used far more mRNA Covid jabs than any other country, giving roughly 650 million jabs to about 250 million Americans.
Since April 2021, when regulators began discouraging use of Johnson & Johnson’s jab, which used a different but somewhat less radical biotechnology and required only one shot, the mRNAs have essentially been the only Covid vaccine technology available to Americans. More than 95 percent of all Covid shots given in the United States have been mRNAs.
The United States has spent more on the mRNAs than any other country, of course. But it has also profited more from them. Pfizer and Moderna, which brought the mRNAs to market and have sold over $100 billion in jabs worldwide, are both American companies (Pfizer splits mRNA sales and profits equally with the German drugmaker BioNTech.)
The American government played a crucial role in the development of both shots, especially Moderna’s, which the National Institutes of Health helped the company design.
The aid was so crucial that in February Moderna agreed to pay NIH $400 million for it. And the United States encouraged other countries to use them, including offering doses to China in December 2022, a gift the Chinese rejected.
If BioNTech’s key role in creating the mRNAs means they cannot be called an entirely American creation, they are close. American scientists, companies, and government officials shepherded their development.
Now the mRNAs have, to put it politely, missed their marks.
That failure can be measured in many ways, including cratering public demand despite a multi-year propaganda campaign and the unexplained rise in all-cause mortality across mRNA countries following last winter’s booster campaign.
Perhaps the most basic measure of their failure is this: the choice countries made in 2020 and 2021 was not between the mRNAs and no Covid vaccines. It was between the mRNAs and simpler vaccines based on older technology. Countries that used the old-style vaccines, including China, have had comparable or better outcomes to the mRNA nations - without any of the long-term risks.
But now that the winter 2021 promise of an mRNA miracle has vanished, American scientists and institutions have disappeared too. The lack of American research on papers examining problems with the jabs grows more glaring each week.
The gap is especially notable because the United States biomedical complex is the most powerful and best-funded in the world. Without its involvement, progress on understanding these issues will occur much more slowly.
Why this studied disinterest from American scientists? And what if anything can be done to change it?
Aside from the underlying issue of what long-term risks the shots may carry, those questions are becoming among the most urgent for mRNA skeptics to answer.
https://open.substack.com/pub/alexbe..._campaign=post
08-15-2023, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Nice copy pastaSeems odd that he gets so upset about people commenting on what he posts. Perhaps he should consider that an indication the things he posts don’t have any merit. This is especially true when he can’t even bring himself to admit whether or not he thinks the claim is accurate.
https://open.substack.com/pub/alexbe..._campaign=post
https://open.substack.com/pub/alexbe..._campaign=post
From the same group, one the same platform, as the confirmed cases

08-15-2023, 07:24 PM
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08-15-2023, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Thanks. I’m sure you’ll be seeing plenty of it in the future.Nice copy pasta
From the same group, one the same platform, as the confirmed cases
From the same group, one the same platform, as the confirmed cases

08-15-2023, 07:28 PM
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JLC MUST be getting paid. This dude would rather die than admit the vaccine in not 100% safe.
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