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post 1688405353 08-15-2023, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Sure Pat, but you know a surefire way to fix that? Stop pissing away money to other countries and send some to Hawaii.

GroomerPat's "logic" in this thread be like...

Wife: "Honey, why did you spend your whole paycheck at the strip club? We haven't paid the rent or any of the bills yet.."

Husband: "Derp. What happens when I literally tell you you're a moron who doesn't understand how strip clubs and bills have nothing to do with each AT ALL?"
Full fuking retardation on display for everyone.

Too retarded to understand that money for one thing has nothing to do with money for something else, regardless of whether you like it or not. Cry some more bitch.

Inb4 you start spamming your spank bank a thousand times over and over in every thread.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Hey, this is progress, you Googled something besides tranny pics for once. Repped.

I guess I don't understand your question though. Read your own definition. The $700 payments still need to be made. Likewise there are still "payments" needing to be made to/for Ukraine.

I gotta ask though, what in the actual fuk does any of this have to do with anything? If you have a beef with the word I used then feel free to substitute it with whatever you want.
It's not the word I have an issue with my little bicycle helmet wearin, window licking, extra chromosome pal. I get the word completely... What I want is for you to stop acting stupid and explain your reasoning about how we "incurred" this Ukrainian expense.

You made the claim 'tard.
Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
yeah but the point it we are sending the money to another country instead of helping our own people

try to keep up
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Srs question, how did you determine one expense was incurred instead of the other?
Answer that for me and I'll find more tranny pics for you.
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post 1688405863 08-15-2023, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
It's not the word I have an issue with my little bicycle helmet wearin, window licking, extra chromosome pal. I get the word completely... What I want is for you to stop acting stupid and explain your reasoning about how we "incurred" this Ukrainian expense.

You made the claim 'tard.





Answer that for me and I'll find more tranny pics for you.
I literally don’t know what you’re asking.
post 1688406193 08-15-2023, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I literally don’t know what you’re asking.
Cleveland was quite literally talking about how we were sending money to Ukraine instead of Hawaii here....
Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
yeah but the point it we are sending the money to another country instead of helping our own people

try to keep up
And you asked him how we determined which expense was incurred here....
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Srs question, how did you determine one expense was incurredinsteadof the other?
I'm simply asking you how TF you think we "incurred" any debt to Ukraine. That's free money ffs.. we don't "owe" them anything.

Don't you agree?
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Joe Biden announces that one-time $700 payments to victims of Hawaii wildfires are for "medications and prescriptions."


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Democrats really are the America last party.
This sums up the entire left perfectly.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Cleveland was quite literally talking about how we were sending money to Ukraine instead of Hawaii here....



And you asked him how we determined which expense was incurred here....



I'm simply asking you how TF you think we "incurred" any debt to Ukraine. That's free money ffs.. we don't "owe" them anything.

Don't you agree?
Ah, I see. I was asking Cleveland how he landed on one thing being done “instead” of the other when “both” is likely the correct take. But in his case I expected the response to be “neither” since he’s usually opposed to the fed gov doing anything.

If you’re also asking how this happened, congress allocates how various programs are funded by enacting legislation.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Ah, I see. I was asking Cleveland how he landed on one thing being done “instead” of the other when “both” is likely the correct take. But in his case I expected the response to be “neither” since he’s usually opposed to the fed gov doing anything.

If you’re also asking how this happened,congress allocates how various programs are funded by enacting legislation.
I'm not asking how.

I'm asking why.

I literally could not give less fux about Ukraine or Africa, and I'm sick of my tax dollars being wasted in those places. And the fact that American citizens in Hawaii are suffering while we continue to piss away hundreds of billions in those places makes me sick.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
No. It wouldn't.
Nothing is stopping you from sending all of your income to Ukraine if you feel that strongly about it.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
I'm not asking how.

I'm asking why.

I literally could not give less fux about Ukraine or Africa, and I'm sick of my tax dollars being wasted in those places. And the fact that American citizens in Hawaii are suffering while we continue to piss away hundreds of billions in those places makes me sick.
Complete agreement, srs.

My disagreement is that Biden/Trump aren’t the ones primarily fukking us out of our money. It’s congress.

Every thread around here about potus is just a fun distraction from who we should be angry with. Yeah, potus can be an enabler, which is why I voted for Gary Johnson a while back. That dude had no problem vetoing the fuk out of anything.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Too retarded to understand that money for one thing has nothing to do with money for something else, regardless of whether you like it or not. Cry some more bitch.
I don't think anyone is too retarded to understand that. People are "crying" because to them, it's morally delinquent to send financial aid to a foreign country fighting a war we're not involved in, when said aid is on the scale of orders of magnitude greater than what is being proposed to help American citizens experiencing the greatest natural disaster in their state in 80 years (possibly ever when all the dust settles). They get they are two separate and unrelated issues. The issue is the question of "why?", which in this case should involve common sense priorities. The questions then are, if we're sending billions in financial aid to Ukraine, that means we CAN send billions in financial aid to Ukraine. Why are we not sending billions in financial aid to Hawaiians? Are we capable of it? If not, should we address that fact?

Again, it's understood they are completely separate from one another. But on a more relatable scale: If your family is donating hundreds of dollars a month to charity, but all of a sudden your hot water heater craps out and your basement floods requiring thousands of dollars of remediation, are you going to tell your family, "Sorry guys. I know we're going to be living on the streets now, and we COULD reallocate the money we've got earmarked for charity... however those are two completely separate issues and pots of money. So it's a nonstarter."?

Not sure why I even bother though, because you'll probably just call me a cultist retard or something.
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
I don't think anyone is too retarded to understand that. People are "crying" because to them, it's morally delinquent to send financial aid to a foreign country fighting a war we're not involved in, when said aid is on the scale of orders of magnitude greater than what is being proposed to help American citizens experiencing the greatest natural disaster in their state in 80 years (possibly ever when all the dust settles). They get they are two separate and unrelated issues. The issue is the question of "why?", which in this case should involve common sense priorities. The questions then are, if we're sending billions in financial aid to Ukraine, that means we CAN send billions in financial aid to Ukraine. Why are we not sending billions in financial aid to Hawaiians? Are we capable of it? If not, should we address that fact?

Again, it's understood they are completely separate from one another. But on a more relatable scale: If your family is donating hundreds of dollars a month to charity, but all of a sudden your hot water heater craps out and your basement floods requiring thousands of dollars of remediation, are you going to tell your family, "Sorry guys. I know we're going to be living on the streets now, and we COULD reallocate the money we've got earmarked for charity... however those are two completely separate issues and pots of money. So it's a nonstarter."?

Not sure why I even bother though, because you'll probably just call me a cultist retard or something.
Why would I call you a retard or cultist when you typed out a well-intentioned thought out response?

Here's the thing though.. natural disasters like wild fires and foreign aid aren't anything new. There is money for both (once we borrow it of course). The idea that it's outrageous or its a bad look to not give billions to Hawaii because we're giving foreign aid to Ukraine, or anyone else for that matter, is ridiculous. Hell, you could make that argument about anything the government pays for... "Why are we giving hundreds of millions of dollars to scientists to study newt mating rituals and not Hawaiians?!?!?"..... And we've had wild fires before that wrecked California pretty bad.. I don't recall people crying about them not getting billions.. nope just this one because a certain political group of people don't like that we're giving aid to Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Why would I call you a retard or cultist when you typed out a well-intentioned thought out response?

Here's the thing though.. natural disasters like wild fires and foreign aid aren't anything new. There is money for both (once we borrow it of course). The idea that it's outrageous or its a bad look to not give billions to Hawaii because we're giving foreign aid to Ukraine, or anyone else for that matter, is ridiculous. Hell, you could make that argument about anything the government pays for... "Why are we giving hundreds of millions of dollars to scientists to study newt mating rituals and not Hawaiians?!?!?"..... And we've had wild fires before that wrecked California pretty bad.. I don't recall people crying about them not getting billions.. nope just this one because a certain political group of people don't like that we're giving aid to Ukraine.
Biden's FEMA gave $105 million to NYC for illegal aliens in June.

Biden's FEMA is only giving $700 per household (~$1.9 million) to victims of Hawaii wildfire.

Biden can do better foractualAmerican citizens who lost their entire life.
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You get what you fukin deserve
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Why would I call you a retard or cultist when you typed out a well-intentioned thought out response?

Here's the thing though.. natural disasters like wild fires and foreign aid aren't anything new. There is money for both (once we borrow it of course). The idea that it's outrageous or its a bad look to not give billions to Hawaii because we're giving foreign aid to Ukraine, or anyone else for that matter, is ridiculous. Hell, you could make that argument about anything the government pays for... "Why are we giving hundreds of millions of dollars to scientists to study newt mating rituals and not Hawaiians?!?!?"..... And we've had wild fires before that wrecked California pretty bad.. I don't recall people crying about them not getting billions.. nope just this one because a certain political group of people don't like that we're giving aid to Ukraine.
Yeah? So when is Hawaii getting some of it Pat?
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
And we've had wild fires before that wrecked California pretty bad.. I don't recall people crying about them not getting billions..
Only they did Pat.
Billions are being spent to turn the tide on the US West's wildfires. It won't be enough

Congress in the last two years approved more than $4 billion in additional funding to prevent repeats of destructive infernos that have torched communities including in California, Colorado and Montana

.https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wi...0and%20Montana.
You really have no idea WTF you're talking about, nor do you care.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Yeah? So when is Hawaii getting some of it Pat?



Only they did Pat.



You really have no idea WTF you're talking about, nor do you care.
Well, being proven wrong, like usual, he'll probably have another meltdown......
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Well, being proven wrong, like usual, he'll probably have another meltdown......
Then announce his departure.

....And be back a week later.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Hell, you could make that argument about anything the government pays for... "Why are we giving hundreds of millions of dollars to scientists to study newt mating rituals and not Hawaiians?!?!?"
Yeah Pat, you absolutely COULD make that argument.

Don't you think? I mean seriously, you don't expect to be taken seriously with this shiit do you?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Well, being proven wrong, like usual, he'll probably have another meltdown......
Except he didn't prove me or anything I posted wrong at all.

First, Hawaiiisgetting money. Second, Congress passed a bill to prevent wild fires... not hand out money to people in California.

Anything else? Of course I mean relevant to the idea that funding for Ukraine has nothing to do with funding for Hawaii.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Except he didn't prove me or anything I posted wrong at all.

First, Hawaii is getting money.
~$700 per household, right?
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Second, Congress passed a bill to prevent wild fires...not hand out money to people in California.
Ok Patricia, try this one...

https://wildfirerecovery.caloes.ca.g...ires/fema-aid/

Or this one...

https://www.capradio.org/articles/20...-by-wildfires/
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Anything else? Of course I mean relevant to the idea that funding for Ukraine has nothing to do with funding for Hawaii.
And for the 5th time, nobody ever said the two were related.

You really have no idea WTF you're talking about, nor do you care.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
~$700 per household, right?



Ok Patricia, try this one...

https://wildfirerecovery.caloes.ca.g...ires/fema-aid/

Or this one...

https://www.capradio.org/articles/20...-by-wildfires/



And for the 5th time, nobody ever said the two were related.

You really have no idea WTF you're talking about, nor do you care.
Are you capable of posting something other than what you already posted multiple times itt? You do it in every thread except the repetitive post is usually from your spank bank..

Again, I'm addressing the idea that we can't give money to Ukraine because it's not fair Hawaiians are only getting $700 (for now). YES... people ARE making that argument itt, regardless of what you repeat over and over.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Are you capable of posting something other than what you already posted multiple times itt? You do it in every thread except the repetitive post is usually from your spank bank..

Again, I'm addressing the idea that we can't give money to Ukraine because it's not fair Hawaiians are only getting $700 (for now). YES... people ARE making that argument itt, regardless of what you repeat over and over.
I thought you were leaving the misc
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Except he didn't prove me or anything I posted wrong at all.

First, Hawaiiisgetting money. Second, Congress passed a bill to prevent wild fires... not hand out money to people in California.

Anything else? Of course I mean relevant to the idea that funding for Ukraine has nothing to do with funding for Hawaii.
Hundreds of billions towards Ukraine, a few million to Hawaii.....
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Are you capable of posting something other than what you already posted multiple times itt? You do it in every thread except the repetitive post is usually from your spank bank..

Again, I'm addressing the idea that we can't give money to Ukraine because it's not fair Hawaiians are only getting $700 (for now). YES... people ARE making that argument itt, regardless of what you repeat over and over.
Been explained to you Patricia. Over, and over, and over, and over, and over..... And over.

Here simpleton, if you won't listen to me then try this again.
Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
I don't think anyone is too retarded to understand that.People are "crying" because to them, it's morally delinquent to send financial aid to a foreign country fighting a war we're not involved in, when said aid is on the scale of orders of magnitude greater than what is being proposed to help American citizens experiencing the greatest natural disaster in their state in 80 years (possibly ever when all the dust settles). They get they are two separate and unrelated issues. The issue is the question of "why?", which in this case should involve common sense priorities. The questions then are, if we're sending billions in financial aid to Ukraine, that means we CAN send billions in financial aid to Ukraine. Why are we not sending billions in financial aid to Hawaiians?Are we capable of it? If not, should we address that fact?

Again, it's understood they are completely separate from one another. But on a more relatable scale: If your family is donating hundreds of dollars a month to charity, but all of a sudden your hot water heater craps out and your basement floods requiring thousands of dollars of remediation, are you going to tell your family, "Sorry guys. I know we're going to be living on the streets now, and we COULD reallocate the money we've got earmarked for charity... however those are two completely separate issues and pots of money. So it's a nonstarter."?

Not sure why I even bother though, because you'll probably just call me a cultist retard or something.
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Originally Posted By fitnessislife⏩
Nothing is stopping you from sending all of your income to Ukraine if you feel that strongly about it.
You think Ukraine accepts EBT? I know Zelensky is a first-rate hustler, but I doubt he would accept that payment method.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Hundreds of billions towards Ukraine, a few million to Hawaii.....
...... um yeah Dave.. we've already established what the thread is about. Great contribution though, I can only imagine what your "partner" has to deal with on calls..




Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Been explained to you Patricia. Over, and over, and over, and over, and over..... And over.

Here simpleton, if you won't listen to me then try this again.
Already responded to that post moron. Again, wtf is with you spamming chit over and over like a fuking idiot?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
...... um yeah Dave.. we've already established what the thread is about. Great contribution though, I can only imagine what your "partner" has to deal with on calls..








Already responded to that post moron. Again, wtf is with you spamming chit over and over like a fuking idiot?
Whats more important? Hawaii or Ukraine?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Already responded to that post moron. Again, wtf is with you spamming chit over and over like a fuking idiot?
Because you're dumb AF, and because wrong.

Once again Patricia...

"it's morally delinquent to send financial aid to a foreign country fighting a war we're not involved in, when said aid is on the scale of orders of magnitude greater than what is being proposed to help American citizens experiencing the greatest natural disaster in their state in 80 years (possibly ever when all the dust settles). They get they are two separate and unrelated issues. The issue is the question of "why?", which in this case should involve common sense priorities. The questions then are, if we're sending billions in financial aid to Ukraine, that means we CAN send billions in financial aid to Ukraine. Why are we not sending billions in financial aid to Hawaiians?"
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Whats more important? Hawaii or Ukraine?
Now we're getting somewhere...

What say you Pat?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Because I'm dumb AF
We're done here retard.
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