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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
Strange Indeed!Wait............wait.............
Wtf.......you're right.
Why is the original ape around and the final product around but nit everything in between? Weren't they supposed to have some kind of advantage over the ape??
Wtf.......you're right.
Why is the original ape around and the final product around but nit everything in between? Weren't they supposed to have some kind of advantage over the ape??
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
So, what happened, then? A magical invisible bearded man in the sky snapped his fingers and poofed everything into existence 6,000 years ago? Does something like that sound more logical to you?Strange Indeed!
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2⏩
I am not discounting all forms of evolution. but i feel like darwin and other basically a took a theory that helped explain things some development in certain species and essentially just built a narrative that ALL life follows thisI don't think humans know as much as we think we know. I think some principles of evolution are probably true. .
So a critter lives without wings, randomly one has VERY slight wing shaped back. Somehow this provided enough of an advantage that he was better able to survive and pass along those genes until it became a mother freaking peregrine falcon.
like I get the theory, but the timeline doesnt make sense.
like i get perhaps one creature by genetic chance (a total random mutation) gets more prominent wing like features that help him glide. Ok. so hes better able to hunt and survive and reproduce.
but what the odds his kids have the SAME RANDOM MUTATION. And not only that....a BETTER MUTATION. what if after all that progress....they have an offspring that reverts back more to the norm? Millions of years lost by one random REGRESSION. Now you need to restart the natural selection advantage with slightly better odds now of the mutation happening again? Im pretty sure you could run a computer model with these same mutations odds and its would take an insane amount of time that even 65 million years cant provide enough time. and this is to create highly sophisticated flying birds from lizards
Just seems way way way too convenient....wonder why?
12-05-2023, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
I don’t understand your question/concern completely. Are you saying you’re not understanding the random odd-balls we see in species’? Or how long it takes to mutate to what is best for survival?I am not discounting all forms of evolution. but i feel like darwin and other basically a took a theory that helped explain things some development in certain species and essentially just built a narrative that ALL life follows this
So a critter lives without wings, randomly one has VERY slight wing shaped back. Somehow this provided enough of an advantage that he was better able to survive and pass along those genes until it became a mother freaking peregrine falcon.
like I get the theory, but the timeline doesnt make sense.
like i get perhaps one creature by genetic chance (a total random mutation) gets more prominent wing like features that help him glide. Ok. so hes better able to hunt and survive and reproduce.
but what the odds his kids have the SAME RANDOM MUTATION. And not only that....a BETTER MUTATION. what if after all that progress....they have an offspring that reverts back more to the norm? Millions of years lost by one random REGRESSION. Now you need to restart the natural selection advantage with slightly better odds now of the mutation happening again? Im pretty sure you could run a computer model with these same mutations odds and its would take an insane amount of time that even 65 million years cant provide enough time.
Just seems way way way too convenient....wonder why?
So a critter lives without wings, randomly one has VERY slight wing shaped back. Somehow this provided enough of an advantage that he was better able to survive and pass along those genes until it became a mother freaking peregrine falcon.
like I get the theory, but the timeline doesnt make sense.
like i get perhaps one creature by genetic chance (a total random mutation) gets more prominent wing like features that help him glide. Ok. so hes better able to hunt and survive and reproduce.
but what the odds his kids have the SAME RANDOM MUTATION. And not only that....a BETTER MUTATION. what if after all that progress....they have an offspring that reverts back more to the norm? Millions of years lost by one random REGRESSION. Now you need to restart the natural selection advantage with slightly better odds now of the mutation happening again? Im pretty sure you could run a computer model with these same mutations odds and its would take an insane amount of time that even 65 million years cant provide enough time.
Just seems way way way too convenient....wonder why?
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
What is the alternative theory?Just seems way way way too convenient....wonder why?
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Originally Posted By NMS3⏩
its too randomized in the theory relying on genetic mutations that I just cant accept it guiding entire species to change like a lizard to a bird.I don’t understand your question/concern completely. Are you saying you’re not understanding the random odd-balls we see in species’? Or how long it takes to mutate to what is best for survival?
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
I just think we need to be more skeptical of evolution. to even bring this up is ANTISCIENCE. seeing how scientists acted the past 4 years on events we see happen live made me realize how much bias they haveWhat is the alternative theory?
12-05-2023, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By GarfieldTheCat⏩
I'd believe that before I believed that an obviously well organized and perfectly self sustaining world was created totally randomly. From the cellular level all the way to the weather, gravity, ocean, and harmony of the different species; it all points to a world that was DESIGNED, and not a random happening that came out of no where.So, what happened, then? A magical invisible bearded man in the sky snapped his fingers and poofed everything into existence 6,000 years ago? Does something like that sound more logical to you?
But sure, continue to believe that perfect ideal beings with two eyes, lips, a nose, and two ears with a full head of hair happened because of some genetic mutation or a big bank. Sounds plausible
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
At least the science explanation tries to make sense. Waving your hands and saying god is a cop out.I'd believe that before I believed that an obviously well organized and perfectly self sustaining world was created totally randomly. From the cellular level all the way to the weather, gravity, ocean, and harmony of the different species; it all points to a world that was DESIGNED, and not a random happening that came out of no where.
But sure, continue to believe that perfect ideal beings with two eyes, lips, a nose, and two ears with a full head of hair happened because of some genetic mutation or a big bank. Sounds plausible
But sure, continue to believe that perfect ideal beings with two eyes, lips, a nose, and two ears with a full head of hair happened because of some genetic mutation or a big bank. Sounds plausible
I bet if you broke your leg tomorrow you'd want to be rushed to a hospital and not a church.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
That's the category of......actually having a damn scientific education. Anti-evolution cels are just like anti-mask cels, anti-vax cels and flat earth cels. Scientifically illiterate morons.So are evolutioncels in the same category as jabbies and round earthcels?
All the evidence in the world is on the side of evolution. That's not to say Neo-Darwinism is the correct interpretation of the theory, though.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
It's the simplest thing in the world. Things happen randomly, sometimes those things are beneficial, if not, the animal dies. Think about it like this. Every single time an animal that undergoes selective pressure had an offspring, their DNA and structure changes .0001 percent, sometimes for good, sometimes for bad, sometimes it doesn't affect the animal at all. Accumulate enough of these .0001 changes, and a lizard's offspring can become a bird.its too randomized in the theory relying on genetic mutations that I just cant accept it guiding entire species to change like a lizard to a bird.
Using my example every 10000 years those small changes would add up to 100% new DNA and structure. Now make that 100 million years. Do you see how what was once a lizard could end up turning into a bird?
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
12-05-2023, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Evolution definitely is fake but your love for trannys and chit is realThat's the category of......actually having a damn scientific education. Anti-evolution cels are just like anti-mask cels, anti-vax cels and flat earth cels. Scientifically illiterate morons.
All the evidence in the world is on the side of evolution. That's not to say Neo-Darwinism is the correct interpretation of the theory, though.
All the evidence in the world is on the side of evolution. That's not to say Neo-Darwinism is the correct interpretation of the theory, though.
Enjoy hell homo
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Originally Posted By ChangGang⏩
The irony that a religious person calls others NPCs.A weaker variation of a thread I made some times back, OP.
And yes, every single evolutioncel homo got bodied in that thread by a simple question: "Explain, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, how the process of flight took place".
Not a single one of those dysgenic and ugly science worshipping fukks could do it. You quickly find out what we've already known since covid: 100% of SCIENCE! f4gg0ts are NPCs parroting what their gods in labcoat tells them.
evolution is even faker and gayer than covid.
Anything that takes you away from God is designed to make you weak mentally, spiritually, and physically. I've proven without a shadow of a doubt over and over and over again: atheists are unbelievers not because they are smart enough to conclude that there is no God. No. That's the farthest thing from the truth. They rebel against God because they are ugly, and leaning on SCIENCE! is a defensive mechanism to cope with an ugly life.
And yes, every single evolutioncel homo got bodied in that thread by a simple question: "Explain, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, how the process of flight took place".
Not a single one of those dysgenic and ugly science worshipping fukks could do it. You quickly find out what we've already known since covid: 100% of SCIENCE! f4gg0ts are NPCs parroting what their gods in labcoat tells them.
evolution is even faker and gayer than covid.
Anything that takes you away from God is designed to make you weak mentally, spiritually, and physically. I've proven without a shadow of a doubt over and over and over again: atheists are unbelievers not because they are smart enough to conclude that there is no God. No. That's the farthest thing from the truth. They rebel against God because they are ugly, and leaning on SCIENCE! is a defensive mechanism to cope with an ugly life.
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2⏩
Evolution and abiogenesis are totally distinct concepts.I don't think humans know as much as we think we know. I think some principles of evolution are probably true. I don't think we have any idea where life on earth came from.
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
Talk to some other experts. While it’s not necessarily possible to say for sure, it’s pretty easy to explain in a couple of ways.There is no evolutionary expla action for flight.
None.
I have looked hard at this and even spoke with an expert on it.
Here is the answer:...
We cannot explain how or why in evolution. All we can do is observe that it appears to happen. That's it.
None.
I have looked hard at this and even spoke with an expert on it.
Here is the answer:...
We cannot explain how or why in evolution. All we can do is observe that it appears to happen. That's it.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rd-flight-exp/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/03/s...evolution.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_avian_flight
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Sorry, but I had to stop reading at “You learn in grade 5 that the sun is in the middle of the galaxy.” Brah….Yeah, i think its bull**** too. Used to take everything that school taught us as absolute facts, but now obviously i know better.
The whole universe and all the theories around it are absolute bull**** actually, its like we live in the most advanced perfect simulation ever. You learn in grade 5 that the sun is in the middle of the galaxy and all the planets hover around it in a perfect elyptical due to a force called gravity and its been that way for gazillions of years and yadda yadda and you are like "oh okay so this is it then"
Until you actually think about it and how crazy and how ridiculous it is that we are in a floating huge sphere with perfect enviroment and conditions for life to develop and progress, spinning around giving us night and day which is perfect for our recovery and sleep etc, at night we have a giant ball of rock that reflects light upon us nad yadda yadda, everything perfectly in place, complete chaos that organized itself perfectly for us, and then somehow a gotdamn crustaceus evolved a billion years latr into Elon Musk who is inventing rocket ships and ****
I mean, you can theoretically explain everything logically, because this universe has laws and rules to follow and everything can be, theoretically, traced to its origins and its reasons to be, but still, that doesnt take away from the fact that the entire freaking universe and every system and sub-system inside it is pretty damn ridiculous.
Like pregnancy itself for example, dude fuks woman and jizzes inside her, 9 months later a whole baby comes out carrying the dna of both their parents, their genetic code picked out of billions of different code combinations to form a perfectly unique one of a kind being.
Everything can be explained yeah, but at the same time, to say all of this bull**** is mere coincidence, i dont know, seems pretty damn hard to believe as well. Which is why i believe more and more the simulation theory as time passes. This universe is a simulation that was coded by a being with an IQ of 10,000 or some **** like that.
The whole universe and all the theories around it are absolute bull**** actually, its like we live in the most advanced perfect simulation ever. You learn in grade 5 that the sun is in the middle of the galaxy and all the planets hover around it in a perfect elyptical due to a force called gravity and its been that way for gazillions of years and yadda yadda and you are like "oh okay so this is it then"
Until you actually think about it and how crazy and how ridiculous it is that we are in a floating huge sphere with perfect enviroment and conditions for life to develop and progress, spinning around giving us night and day which is perfect for our recovery and sleep etc, at night we have a giant ball of rock that reflects light upon us nad yadda yadda, everything perfectly in place, complete chaos that organized itself perfectly for us, and then somehow a gotdamn crustaceus evolved a billion years latr into Elon Musk who is inventing rocket ships and ****
I mean, you can theoretically explain everything logically, because this universe has laws and rules to follow and everything can be, theoretically, traced to its origins and its reasons to be, but still, that doesnt take away from the fact that the entire freaking universe and every system and sub-system inside it is pretty damn ridiculous.
Like pregnancy itself for example, dude fuks woman and jizzes inside her, 9 months later a whole baby comes out carrying the dna of both their parents, their genetic code picked out of billions of different code combinations to form a perfectly unique one of a kind being.
Everything can be explained yeah, but at the same time, to say all of this bull**** is mere coincidence, i dont know, seems pretty damn hard to believe as well. Which is why i believe more and more the simulation theory as time passes. This universe is a simulation that was coded by a being with an IQ of 10,000 or some **** like that.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Lol. But who was supermassive black hole?Mind blown that in Interstellar they finally reached the sun at the center of the galaxy
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Yeah it's gay. The only real answer is that god created the world in his image 2000 years ago and all things from before then that were discovered archeologically were put there by god to test our faith.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
are you some sort of retard?That's the category of......actually having a damn scientific education. Anti-evolution cels are just like anti-mask cels, anti-vax cels and flat earth cels. Scientifically illiterate morons.
All the evidence in the world is on the side of evolution. That's not to say Neo-Darwinism is the correct interpretation of the theory, though.
All the evidence in the world is on the side of evolution. That's not to say Neo-Darwinism is the correct interpretation of the theory, though.
masks were proven not to be effective
moderna and pfizer are now being sued for their experimental drug causing injury in the last scamdemic. they hid information showing it was first ineffective, and now causing side effects 900%+ increase in injury to young people. Directors of the company have now acknowledged this on video when questioned under oath.
"trust the science" was a scam term coined to get NPCs to get onboard and further spread their BS - they knew the science already - it didn't work.
and morons like you still trust them?
i am guessing with this new one in china about pneumonia and people dying that they are saying has been found in 2 states in the US - you are already ready to bend over and take another jab in the ass if they said next month they got another experimental jab ready
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights⏩
There's no irony here, you midwit retard.The irony that a religious person calls others NPCs.
Religious people are superior to dysgenic science f4gg0ts. This is OBSERVABLY true.
Chads, Stacey, Tyrone, Chang, every good looking person you know in real life is religious/believes in God.
Atheism what ugly people develop as a form of cope to reject God, believing they've been done wrong from being born ugly.
There is a laughably obvious correlation between manletism and atheism.
Atheists are NPCs, useful idiots, golems, destructive, dysgenic, and ugly. Just like vaxxcels.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
So basically, you believe the magic invisible wizard man in the sky magically thinking everything as it is into existence is in any way more logical than the theory of evolution? You haven't ever sat down and studied the theory of evolution properly, have ya?I'd believe that before I believed that an obviously well organized and perfectly self sustaining world was created totally randomly. From the cellular level all the way to the weather, gravity, ocean, and harmony of the different species; it all points to a world that was DESIGNED, and not a random happening that came out of no where.
But sure, continue to believe that perfect ideal beings with two eyes, lips, a nose, and two ears with a full head of hair happened because of some genetic mutation or a big bank. Sounds plausible
But sure, continue to believe that perfect ideal beings with two eyes, lips, a nose, and two ears with a full head of hair happened because of some genetic mutation or a big bank. Sounds plausible
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Originally Posted By GarfieldTheCat⏩
You haven’t read the Bible have you?So basically, you believe the magic invisible wizard man in the sky magically thinking everything as it is into existence is in any way more logical than the theory of evolution? You haven't ever sat down and studied the theory of evolution properly, have ya?
All your answers are right there
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Originally Posted By bradlehman⏩
Did you read these before posting?Talk to some other experts. While it’s not necessarily possible to say for sure, it’s pretty easy to explain in a couple of ways.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rd-flight-exp/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/03/s...evolution.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_avian_flight
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rd-flight-exp/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/03/s...evolution.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_avian_flight
Come on dude: "not possible to say...easy to explain" no, it isntceasy to explain.
It takes way more than just wings to fly. And wings to run fast do not lead to flying. Awful speculations.
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So OP doesn't believe in mutations that help said species adapt to life? I have to be missing something. Mutations are proven, mutations that help species are proven, and they happen all the time for everything that lives. What am I missing?
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Originally Posted By bradlehman⏩
Lol that wiki article has just as long of a snippet about how the flight evolution hypotheses is likely scientifically incorrect as the physics don't align with the natural selection model.Talk to some other experts. While it’s not necessarily possible to say for sure, it’s pretty easy to explain in a couple of ways.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rd-flight-exp/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/03/s...evolution.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_avian_flight
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rd-flight-exp/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/03/s...evolution.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_avian_flight
Scientists can't logically explain nor agree how this happened (avian flight)
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Too bad we have seen absolutely zero evidence of this happening anywhere. Even if It did take 10,000 years, we should atleast be seeing some animals in the process of such a change already , right? Can you list some?It's the simplest thing in the world. Things happen randomly, sometimes those things are beneficial, if not, the animal dies. Think about it like this. Every single time an animal that undergoes selective pressure had an offspring, their DNA and structure changes .0001 percent, sometimes for good, sometimes for bad, sometimes it doesn't affect the animal at all. Accumulate enough of these .0001 changes, and a lizard's offspring can become a bird.
Using my example every 10000 years those small changes would add up to 100% new DNA and structure. Now make that 100 million years. Do you see how what was once a lizard could end up turning into a bird?
Using my example every 10000 years those small changes would add up to 100% new DNA and structure. Now make that 100 million years. Do you see how what was once a lizard could end up turning into a bird?
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