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08-16-2024, 10:12 AM
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I'm sure something like this won't backfire like most progressive policies.

Also, it's not like she can snap her fingers and make this happen.
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08-16-2024, 10:13 AM
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What were the qualifiers under Newsom?


Under Kamala's proposal, it's specifies people who've paid rent for a minimum of 2 years all on time.
didn't he create a tranny only part of the city where they were given universal income and free lodging
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08-16-2024, 10:22 AM
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Yeah right, that's not gong to happen. Sounds familiar though. Harris's home state of California was promising 3 million new homes to be built over the last few years. So far, that goal hasn't even come close.

Government is not so good at building things anymore.



Newsom campaigned on building 3.5 million homes. He hasn’t gotten even close

https://calmatters.org/housing/2022/...ousing-crisis/
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08-16-2024, 10:24 AM
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Billions for Iraq

Billions for Aghanistan

Billions for Israel

Billions for Ukraine

but down payment assist. for American homebuyers: how dare you chip away from my paycheck you commie!

lmao
Crazy idea but hear me out, one can be opposed to both those things
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08-16-2024, 10:26 AM
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Yeah right, that's not gong to happen. Sounds familiar though. Harris's home state of California was promising 3 million new homes to be built over the last few years. So far, that goal hasn't even come close.

Government is not so good at building things anymore.



Newsom campaigned on building 3.5 million homes. He hasn’t gotten even close

https://calmatters.org/housing/2022/...ousing-crisis/
Harris wasn't the Governor

Not even close.
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08-16-2024, 10:30 AM
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Rewarding bad decision making and poor planning, creates more of it. Plain and simple.

Plus the fact that all of this is unconstitutional, but that's never stopped a Democrat.

Read what Madison had to say about charity in the Constitution and that was a tiny fraction of what this would be. The government does not make money, this would be money stolen from others.
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08-16-2024, 10:31 AM
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I have no sympathy for poor people (I hate poor people). Interest rate cuts will help bring down home prices because Biden cooled inflation, but there's no way we should be handing out $25k in cash to them.
I've enjoyed much of the posts ITT about making things fair, avoiding socialism, holding people accountable, etc. But to hate all poor people is another low. Some people just grew up and exist in terrible poverty environments, some people are born (or suffer from an accident later) with physical/mental health defects. This class of people shouldn't be hated. What I hate is Gen Y/Z/A people who sign contracts for debt, spend 50%+ of their income on frivolous things like leisure and cars/technology, and then wind up living paycheck to paycheck because they bit off more than their income can afford. Only then to blame society/government for their own actions, and demand financial assistance.
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08-16-2024, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea⏩
Yeah right, that's not gong to happen. Sounds familiar though. Harris's home state of California was promising 3 million new homes to be built over the last few years. So far, that goal hasn't even come close.

Government is not so good at building things anymore.



Newsom campaigned on building 3.5 million homes. He hasn’t gotten even close

https://calmatters.org/housing/2022/...ousing-crisis/
Californian here, every1 knew it was BS and covid exposed Newsom for the lying distrustworthy nincompoop he is.

Even if they built those homes, the issue is every1 thinks they deserve a coastal home or a home near the big yuppie mini downtown areas in SD/SF/LA. issue is theres no more room there and the people that have those homes are established professionals/20+ yr career and parents or Mexicans/asians that are willing to share a house with their family well into the late 20s (likely a combo of both)

Couples in their 20s ain't getting that chit unless the girl does OF and the guy is in tech

Theres also housing available, big mansions on the outskirts of the cities in mega suburbs for a reasonable price and in much safer neighborhoods than whatd u get in or near the city. But screeching libs, esp younger ones don't wanna move out there. Racism or something.
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08-16-2024, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By TomPaine⏩
Rewarding bad decision making and poor planning, creates more of it. Plain and simple.

Plus the fact that all of this is unconstitutional, but that's never stopped a Democrat.

Read what Madison had to say about charity in the Constitution and that was a tiny fraction of what this would be. The government does not make money, this would be money stolen from others.
Wrong.

No amount of good decisions will allow a newly grad to buy a decent starter home in the this market.
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08-16-2024, 10:49 AM
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More government never make any problem better.
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08-16-2024, 10:56 AM
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Wrong.

No amount of good decisions will allow a newly grad to buy a decent starter home in the this market.
What makes you think a newly grad is "entitled" to a home? ****ing low test, brown ph@ggot.
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08-16-2024, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By TomPaine⏩
Rewarding bad decision making and poor planning, creates more of it. Plain and simple.

Plus the fact that all of this is unconstitutional, but that's never stopped a Democrat.

Read what Madison had to say about charity in the Constitution and that was a tiny fraction of what this would be. The government does not make money, this would be money stolen from others.
Agreed, Lower and Middle Class Americans always make bad decisions.

Rich people and corporations have never made bad decisions.
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08-16-2024, 11:04 AM
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What makes you think a newly grad is "entitled" to a home? ****ing low test, brown ph@ggot.
If they went to school and pay taxes towards schools, hospitals, roads, public infrastructure, and military budget, Yes they're entitled to a home. They are a contributing member of society.


We aren't talking about a mansion, but a decent starter home, about $150k. Maybe 45 minutes from the city.
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08-16-2024, 11:04 AM
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What makes you think a newly grad is "entitled" to a home? ****ing low test, brown ph@ggot.
Because he might have a wife and kids

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08-16-2024, 11:05 AM
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How about instead of giving them a free house with a yard and 40 acres and a mule just make renting more affordable for them? You can get a house with a hot tub and a backyard when you put in the extra work and earn it
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08-16-2024, 11:08 AM
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Humanity is doomed because it never learns the lesson that has been taught over and over.
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08-16-2024, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
The solution isn't exactly take from others, give to others. Building more homes doesn't do that.

But keeping families from being dirt poor e.a. rentcels, puts less strain on the system. If homes were more affordable, do you think we'd be having this conversation? Do you think a $25k fund from tax payers would be needed?

But alas, we're at this point and something needs to be done, or else more strain on tax payers.


Your other points I 100% agree with and I've known for the longest firms like Black Rock were buying up single family homes.
This does nothing to fix the reason why housing is unattainable for many first time home buyers. My suggestions would go a long way to help that but no politician would ever do that as they're all beholden to corporate interests. You're just putting a bandage on a deep knife wound rather than stitching it up.

But fuk you for wanting to take my savings for my family and redistribute it to others; many who've made chit life decisions and criminal history that I should not have to finance. Why should your dumb ass get my money over my own son?
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08-16-2024, 11:11 AM
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This does nothing to fix the reason why housing is unattainable for many first time home buyers. My suggestions would go a long way to help that but no politician would ever do that as they're all beholden to corporate interests. You're just putting a bandage on a deep knife wound rather than stitching it up.

But fuk you for wanting to take my savings for my family and redistribute it to others; many who've made chit life decisions and criminal history that I should not have to finance. Why should your dumb ass get my money over my own son?
I'm going to agree and disagree. No it shouldn't fall on tax payers, but where else would it come from? The 'government' is the tax payers. Even if they cut military budget to put towards housing, those are still your dollars.


But what you fail to realize is your savings is being drained because of homeless people and soon to be homeless rentcels. Not people who have an affordable mortgage. What do you think happens when people can't get a house and can no longer afford rent? More of your tax dollars will go to feeding them.
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08-16-2024, 11:16 AM
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I see nothing wrong with this. Working American families deserve a home.






What is rage inducing? Are you against Americans receiving help?

If you expect an even playing field, nothing in life is 'fair'. You should be happy for people receiving help
When people make these general statements I often wonder, are you intentionally being dishonest? Or are you just completely clueless.

Families deserve a home? Do you understand that someone has to pay for that home? Can you grasp the concepts of how money, taxes and benefits work?


How does this home get built? when you say they deserve a home (when you actually mean, someone else who's working hard needs to pay for a lazy person's home because they can't be bothered to sacrifice), how or who funds this home? How many working tax payers are required to fund this dead beat's home?

WHY do they deserve a gift from the working class?



inb4 hurr durr billionaires will pay for it……….. principles are principles, either you believe someone who earned nothing is entitled to an earners money or you don't.
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08-16-2024, 11:29 AM
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I'm going to agree and disagree. No it shouldn't fall on tax payers, but where else would it come from?


But what you fail to realize is your savings is being drained because of homeless people and soon to be homeless rentcels. Not people who have an affordable mortgage. What do you think happens when people can't get a house and can no longer afford rent? More of your tax dollars will go to feeding them.
Again, your 'solution' doesn't fix a single thing. The problem still exists. As repeatedly pointed out, housing cost will just increase, people say by 25k but it'll be significantly higher than that now that there's more competition with people that have down payments from their fellow taxpayers. Because of the increased home prices, now their mortgage is more unaffordable. The cycle continues. Your view is such a simplistic and moronic one, that it'll actually make the issues worse. We need to actually FIX the issue as I already outlined.

Edit: and my savings is being drained because of socialists like you.
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08-16-2024, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By TomPaine⏩
Rewarding bad decision making and poor planning, creates more of it. Plain and simple.

Plus the fact that all of this is unconstitutional, but that's never stopped a Democrat.

Read what Madison had to say about charity in the Constitution and that was a tiny fraction of what this would be. The government does not make money, this would be money stolen from others.
Absolutely. Rewarding failures of lazy fuks just fuels more of it. This unconstitutional theft robs the responsible to coddle the lazy fuks. Madison would be spinning in his grave.
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08-16-2024, 11:42 AM
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What happened to student loan forgiveness?
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08-16-2024, 11:51 AM
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Again, your 'solution' doesn't fix a single thing. The problem still exists. As repeatedly pointed out, housing cost will just increase, people say by 25k but it'll be significantly higher than that now that there's more competition with people that have down payments from their fellow taxpayers. Because of the increased home prices, now their mortgage is more unaffordable. The cycle continues. Your view is such a simplistic and moronic one, that it'll actually make the issues worse. We need to actually FIX the issue as I already outlined.

Edit: and my savings is being drained because of socialists like you.
You're right.


I'm not a socialist. I just think helping first time home owners is a great thing.

Maybe we could building more houses? That should fix it. And no need for tax payers.
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08-16-2024, 11:51 AM
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What happened to student loan forgiveness?
Biden asks Supreme Court to lift block on student loan repayment plan

https://www.foxbusiness.com/personal...repayment-plan
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08-16-2024, 11:57 AM
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Nothing better than handing money to people that couldn't afford a house in the first place and likely won't be able to afford it after the down payment when insurance and taxes rise. Should end well.
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Biden asks Supreme Court to lift block on student loan repayment plan

https://www.foxbusiness.com/personal...repayment-plan
Crazy how this is such a big issue, but sending money to Israel or bailing out mega corps isn't. The money ends up going from the government to banks anyway.
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Crazy how this is such a big issue, but sending money to Israel or bailing out mega corps isn't. The money ends up going from the government to banks anyway.
Out of all the political retardation over the last 10 yrs, this justification for student loan forgiveness is the most chit tier of all.

1. Sending money to Israel or mega corps is a huge issue, its just that Israel and the mega corps have the plebs fighitng over retarded social issues they aren't even paying attention to this stuff enough to be outraged.

2. But even still, two wrongs don't make a right. Just cause we do something retarded on the one hand does not mean we should do something retarded on the other hand.

3. Its not like this just benefits all good ol' hardworking americans. It disproportionately benefits the chittiest among us, meanwhile those who either went into the trades or those who paid back their loans get hosed.

4. And the cherry on top: it all goes to the big banks anyways so I guess it is fine even though my first point was complaining about bank bail outs.
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