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post 10000257855 5 days ago, 10:38 AM
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Hitler was okay with working even with jews, just ask george soros
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post 10000257876 5 days ago, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Macaque
Iran will go down as a failure worse than Iraq
post 10000258325 5 days ago, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Waingro

Well the perception around the world is all the US achieved was they bombed lots of infrastructure, created a lot of misery, and achieved a whole lot of nothing objectively. The Strait is still under threat, the regime is intact and you justified their pursuit of nuclear weapons. Also proved the US cannot successfully protect their interests in the Middle East.
post 10000259958 4 days ago, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Macaque
Well the perception around the world is all the US achieved was they bombed lots of infrastructure, created a lot of misery, and achieved a whole lot of nothing objectively. The Strait is still under threat, the regime is intact and you justified their pursuit of nuclear weapons. Also proved the US cannot successfully protect their interests in the Middle East.
Perception huh? Does it really matter?

To add, what is the US losing? What has the US lost? Look at economic data.

Let me put it this way. The US profits from wars. Even the US civil war, the US jumped in GDP during the war, and after.
post 10000260149 4 days ago, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydubs
Perception huh? Does it really matter?

To add, what is the US losing? What has the US lost? Look at economic data.

Let me put it this way. The US profits from wars. Even the US civil war, the US jumped in GDP during the war, and after.
True considering it helps the weapons industry, I don't consider the use of missiles or defence spending as being wasteful for the economy but rather how this conflict changes the game in the middle east.

- The US will need to either commit big money to increase defence capabilities in the ME or Iran can easily dictate terms by attacking US allies like Qatar, Saudi etc.
- If there are no boots on the ground, then it will not end. No region has ever been conquered or dictated by air in history.
- All Iran needs to do is destroy a single ship to create doubt and the entire straight stops. It's a strategic advantage - the US has to defend every ship which is significantly harder and I don't see Trump caring that much.
- The only question is how long both sides can wait it out before someone folds
post 10000260196 4 days ago, 07:50 PM
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MAGA losers still think they can defeat Iran. I wonder if any of you MAGA cucks would trade places with a US Soldier in the Middle East right now. Or are you a coward like your draft dodging President?

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