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07-18-2016, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By therealistwat⏩
what do people who make comments like this hope to accomplish?The Walton Family loves you
Life isn't fair. Certain people are born into extreme wealth. Certain people run the world
07-18-2016, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis⏩
I have sister like this and my family caters to her. I don't, it's too bad.There's no helping her . She's been diagnosed as a pathological lyer, and I'd imagine there's much more.
Some people have no intention of contributing to society
Some people have no intention of contributing to society
07-18-2016, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By SmarterChild⏩
corporate subsidies of peace and prosperity will come to you famwhat do people who make comments like this hope to accomplish?
Life isn't fair. Certain people are born into extreme wealth. Certain people run the world
Life isn't fair. Certain people are born into extreme wealth. Certain people run the world
07-18-2016, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By therealistwat⏩
you Finna change the world?corporate subsidies of peace and prosperity will come to you fam
07-18-2016, 08:49 PM
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07-18-2016, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By SmarterChild⏩
Exactly. I don't compare my circumstance to other people. Its a fruitless excersize. If I had a problem with the Walton family I could use my market power *read dollars* to support a different business. That's how the free market works. The good thing is some no one in Arkansas made a billion dollar company like wal mart from nothing. The opportunity for other people to do the same existswhat do people who make comments like this hope to accomplish?
Life isn't fair. Certain people are born into extreme wealth. Certain people run the world
Life isn't fair. Certain people are born into extreme wealth. Certain people run the world
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07-18-2016, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Ya she's always crying on my shoulder and I don't put up with her crap . I seem to be the only one that sees threw her .I have sister like this and my family caters to her. I don't, it's too bad.
Well her father finally sees the light , but it sure took him a long time
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07-18-2016, 08:52 PM
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lol dumb tradies
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07-18-2016, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By SmarterChild⏩
I'm gonna need a lot of ********you Finna change the world?
07-18-2016, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted By JamesA1990⏩
Honestly they tradie thing is a funny troll, but not in this thread. They are hard workers making a good living and supporting their families. Tradies deserve respect ITTlol dumb tradies
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07-18-2016, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By BearTactics⏩
And they did this under much different economical circumstances. The same opportunities do NOT exist today. Those opportunities were taken away by lobbyists of the same company you're praising.Exactly. I don't compare my circumstance to other people. Its a fruitless excersize. If I had a problem with the Walton family I could use my market power *read dollars* to support a different business. That's how the free market works. The good thing is some no one in Arkansas made a billion dollar company like wal mart from nothing. The opportunity for other people to do the same exists
07-18-2016, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
We know what party supports more government regulation don't we?Liberals become victims of their own ideas and then blame conservative people.And they did this under much different economical circumstances. The same opportunities do NOT exist today. Those opportunities were taken away by lobbyists of the same company you're praising.
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07-18-2016, 09:02 PM
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07-18-2016, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By BearTactics⏩
Lol wut? Republicans USED to be smaller government. Now they just protect big business. Including Walmart.We know what party supports more government regulation don't we?Liberals become victims of their own ideas and then blame conservative people.
07-18-2016, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted By iceypain⏩
What's worse: starving or going to find work? That's the real question. We are creating an entire class of people who do nothing but drain a system that doesn't have much left to drain from.which is the greater evil: people starving or people abusing social safety nets?
this is all it boils down to. there is no right or wrong answer, just opinions
this is all it boils down to. there is no right or wrong answer, just opinions
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Big business and small government are not mutually exclusive. It's actually a harmonious relationship. The less government interference, the more prosperous the market (generally). I don't want an macroeconomic debateLol wut? Republicans USED to be smaller government. Now they just protect big business. Including Walmart.
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07-18-2016, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted By BearTactics⏩
again, not everyone who wants to find work can. sure, some (or many) are abusing the system, but there are also people who genuinely need the help. there's just no way to be precise with broad policy tools. so in the end it really boils down to which you think is the greater evil: free loaders or genuine poverty.What's worse: starving or going to find work? That's the real question. We are creating an entire class of people who do nothing but drain a system that doesn't have much left to drain from.
07-18-2016, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By iceypain⏩
who gives 2 ****s if people starvewhich is the greater evil: people starving or people abusing social safety nets?
this is all it boils down to. there is no right or wrong answer, just opinions
this is all it boils down to. there is no right or wrong answer, just opinions
07-18-2016, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By RisingChaos⏩
They woudn't starve, trust me. They might end up in the system, which sucks, but not any more than having a crack whore mother that doesn't take of you.I couldn't give less of a fuk about the few hundred dollars they take from me if it prevents some kid from starving. Even if his mother is a money scheming tax payer dependent crackwhore...
Playing the system has become a business. A full ride on government assistance equals about $40 per hour. To make thing inflate even more is that, if a woman has children to multiple fathers, each of those children can be counted as a completely different family, doubling the money coming in.
Our system is broken. If you want a social service like this to work, you need full cooperation with everyone involved and responsible family planning etc. We will never have that. Give an inch, they will take a foot. This is why I believe we need a system in which volunteer work must be done in order to get anything from the government. There are lots and lots of low skill jobs available, as well as educated jobs that some of the homeless and poor can do, considering we have a population of highly educated homeless.
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07-18-2016, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted By BearTactics⏩
Oh it's harmonious for them - just not for workers. The same workers that spend in the economy. That make profits for big business. But when those workers don't have money to spend, they get in line and get unemployment and spend their money at Walmart.Big business and small government are not mutually exclusive. It's actually a harmonious relationship. The less government interference, the more prosperous the market (generally). I don't want an macroeconomic debate
Get it now?
07-18-2016, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Didn't even read the rest of your post. They'd end up in a private, for-profit, prison.They woudn't starve, trust me. They might end up in the system, which sucks, but not any more than having a crack whore mother that doesn't take of you.
07-18-2016, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
This guy is exactly right. If you are taking from the system you should have toThey woudn't starve, trust me. They might end up in the system, which sucks, but not any more than having a crack whore mother that doesn't take of you.
Playing the system has become a business. A full ride on government assistance equals about $40 per hour. To make thing inflate even more is that, if a woman has children to multiple fathers, each of those children can be counted as a completely different family, doubling the money coming in.
Our system is broken. If you want a social service like this to work, you need full cooperation with everyone involved and responsibility family planning etc. We will never have that. Give an inch, they will take a foot. This is why I believe we need a system in which volunteer work must be done in order to get anything from the government. There are lots and lots of low skill jobs available, as well as educated jobs that some of the homeless and poor can do, considering we have a population of highly educated homeless.
Playing the system has become a business. A full ride on government assistance equals about $40 per hour. To make thing inflate even more is that, if a woman has children to multiple fathers, each of those children can be counted as a completely different family, doubling the money coming in.
Our system is broken. If you want a social service like this to work, you need full cooperation with everyone involved and responsibility family planning etc. We will never have that. Give an inch, they will take a foot. This is why I believe we need a system in which volunteer work must be done in order to get anything from the government. There are lots and lots of low skill jobs available, as well as educated jobs that some of the homeless and poor can do, considering we have a population of highly educated homeless.
- provide 20hr min community service
- be able to pass a drug test at random
- show that you have been actively applying and looking for work
- not be allowed to have kids while on it or up to 3 years thereafter
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07-18-2016, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted By vordulmega⏩
lol @ peasants having to pick it up in person, brb miscing while my dole is transferred to my bank account by the government

07-18-2016, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis⏩
My sister stole my baseball cards I bought with money from my paper route when I was a teenager that I got up at 5:00 am every morning to earn, and sold them to a local card shop when I went to college. I know that feel.It's quite entertaining somedays . She borrowed her dads guitar saying she was going to teach his grand daughter how to play it . A week later he asks where it is , and she's pawned it off already . This goes on and on
07-18-2016, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted By RisingChaos⏩
I'm no bleeding heart or a lib, but I agree with this statement. I'm all for helping those in need that either can't help themselves legitimately or are trying to get back on their feet. The scum will take advantage of it, our government needs to figure out how to regulate welfare better and monitor the spending.I couldn't give less of a fuk about the few hundred dollars they take from me if it prevents some kid from starving. Even if his mother is a money scheming tax payer dependent crackwhore...
I also like the idea above about putting them to work cleaning streets and such.
Ultimately welfare is needed to keep order.
07-18-2016, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Most people would rather work than leach - regardless of what this forum says. Give them a job and they'll work for it - unless it doesn't pay the bills. Then there's a problem.I'm no bleeding heart or a lib, but I agree with this statement. I'm all for helping those in need that either can't help themselves legitimately or are trying to get back on their feet. The scum will take advantage of it, our government needs to figure out how to regulate welfare better and monitor the spending.
I also like the idea above about putting them to work cleaning streets and such.
Ultimately welfare is needed to keep order.
I also like the idea above about putting them to work cleaning streets and such.
Ultimately welfare is needed to keep order.
07-18-2016, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
I have seen the system. I have been in the crack houses. I have been called to a house for a welfare check, to find the mother and BF laying on the floor, overdosed, and the child in the kitchen, getting in to cabinets that contained detergents and cleaners. Diaper hadn't been changed for at least 12+ hours. Toddler looks under weight and tells me she is hungry, so I look around the house and find nothing. I walk to my rig and get my lunch for the day, and see I have yogurt and a banana in there. I Let her eat, and she crawls in to my lap and puts her arms around me. We used Narcan on the mother and BF. BF has lost a pulse. We start resuscitating him and haul his butt to the hospital where he died. Mother lived.Didn't even read the rest of your post. They'd end up in a private, for-profit, prison.
So please, tell me, with all of your personal experience and education, explain to me why staying at that home is better than the process of finding her a family that will care for her? Humans need 4 things to survive and thrive; Food, water, shelter, and love. People seem to forget the love part.
I have prayed for that girl every day since we left that house. I was never able to find out what happened to her, but still, I Pray. Leaving that house was one of the hardest things I have ever done.
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07-18-2016, 09:35 PM
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07-18-2016, 09:37 PM
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I have 0 problem with this. More crack money coming my way, if you're complaining like op LOL @ u getting mad for being taxed instead of finding ways to avoid it / make more money
07-18-2016, 09:41 PM
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So you rather taxpayers pay 35K/year to house him in jail/prison than 11K/year to feed/clothe his family of 4?
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07-18-2016, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Addiction is a problem. Thank god we have another public assistance program called Child Protective Services. Thank God!I have seen the system. I have been in the crack houses. I have been called to a house for a welfare check, to find the mother and BF laying on the floor, overdosed, and the child in the kitchen, getting in to cabinets that contained detergents and cleaners. Diaper hadn't been changed for at least 12+ hours. Toddler looks under weight and tells me she is hungry, so I look around the house and find nothing. I walk to my rig and get my lunch for the day, and see I have yogurt and a banana in there. I Let her eat, and she crawls in to my lap and puts her arms around me. We used Narcan on the mother and BF. BF has lost a pulse. We start resuscitating him and haul his butt to the hospital where he died. Mother lived.
So please, tell me, with all of your personal experience and education, explain to me why staying at that home is better than the process of finding her a family that will care for her? Humans need 4 things to survive and thrive; Food, water, shelter, and love. People seem to forget the love part.
I have prayed for that girl every day since we left that house. I was never able to find out what happened to her, but still, I Pray. Leaving that house was one of the hardest things I have ever done.
So please, tell me, with all of your personal experience and education, explain to me why staying at that home is better than the process of finding her a family that will care for her? Humans need 4 things to survive and thrive; Food, water, shelter, and love. People seem to forget the love part.
I have prayed for that girl every day since we left that house. I was never able to find out what happened to her, but still, I Pray. Leaving that house was one of the hardest things I have ever done.
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