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Originally Posted By liftyousay
what about resetting profiles that don't require the verification ie. if you're using your true ******** account that has over 50 friends and your interests etc. i've pretty much only been getting superlike matches lately and definitely feel like i'm not being seen. bullchit. sick of the cockblocking by the tinder devs. i'm not currently in the city, where it still feels sometimes like i'm not being seen there either, but in the suburbs it is very much noticeable. brb using my grandmas # and calling her and asking for that there verification code. no, actually will use my younger bro's, who is in a ltr and never been on there before, and will just never reset again.

edit: just went live

edit edit: seeing chicks i never saw with my 9 day old account i'd reset on a lot in the past using the same number

very likely to be something to this
you reset with a new tinder profile, new phone number AND new FB? Or still linked to previous FB?
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Originally Posted By liftyousay
what about resetting profiles that don't require the verification ie. if you're using your true ******** account that has over 50 friends and your interests etc. i've pretty much only been getting superlike matches lately and definitely feel like i'm not being seen. bullchit. sick of the cockblocking by the tinder devs. i'm not currently in the city, where it still feels sometimes like i'm not being seen there either, but in the suburbs it is very much noticeable. brb using my grandmas # and calling her and asking for that there verification code. no, actually will use my younger bro's, who is in a ltr and never been on there before, and will just never reset again.

edit: just went live

edit edit: seeing chicks i never saw with my 9 day old account i'd reset on a lot in the past using the same number

very likely to be something to this
Got one of my old accounts that I use to spoof to another part of the city which has never swiped anyone in the area I live. It only shows ~5 girls with 2km's of where I live. My brand new account shows 18 girls. So something is definitely up. It's definitely limiting the girls I see.

The last time I reset my old accounts was around ~3 months ago, everything was fine then. The tinder algorithm must have been changed again recently, punishing those that reset over and over. Bumble has a similar concept in place.
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Originally Posted By BRBMakingMoney
Bingo

So drawing from the SEO analogy what are some techniques we can use to game tinder... You don't have to be a genius to figure these out:
- Create a bunch of hot female catfish accounts and mass reject every single guy in the city except for one profile, your profile. Every guy will be liking them, so they'll be super popular, but they'll only be liking you, which should send your ELO through the roof.
- Create a 10/10 male model account and let it sit for a couple of weeks occasionally rejecting a profile (every few hours) to keep it active, then after a couple of weeks change the pics to your own and start swiping
- Combine both of the above methods for even more of a boost

I'm sure there's more if you get a bit creative.

The original method to game tinder was just to autolike everyone and keep the autoliker active 24/7 and you'd constantly be up the top of the queue, this worked for a couple of years, then tinder stopped that. The next method was the exploit my bot used, which worked for a bit over a year, then tinder stopped that.

Of course there are still going to be ways to game it and use it optimally, it just takes a bit of time and commitment to figure out.
So if the algorithm was fixed to disallow your exploit, why not inform us what it was
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doesn't matter, i get 0 matches regardless
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Originally Posted By Insanity_SC
you reset with a new tinder profile, new phone number AND new FB? Or still linked to previous FB?
correct - new # (my brothers) and new fb. sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

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^what tinder add-on app is that?
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Originally Posted By ausman!
Got one of my old accounts that I use to spoof to another part of the city which has never swiped anyone in the area I live. It only shows ~5 girls with 2km's of where I live. My brand new account shows 18 girls. So something is definitely up. It's definitely limiting the girls I see.

The last time I reset my old accounts was around ~3 months ago, everything was fine then. The tinder algorithm must have been changed again recently, punishing those that reset over and over. Bumble has a similar concept in place.
It's (probably) not the resetting. It's your ELO score. As I've said multiple times in this thread already.

But I'm running an experiment now and will be able to confirm in a couple weeks.

P.S. for those having problems with phone number verification, it skips the SMS if you have over 50 ******** friends.
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Originally Posted By mTOR
^what tinder add-on app is that?
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Originally Posted By pancakemouse
It's (probably) not the resetting. It's your ELO score. As I've said multiple times in this thread already.

But I'm running an experiment now and will be able to confirm in a couple weeks.

P.S. for those having problems with phone number verification, it skips the SMS if you have over 50 ******** friends.
have you just been resetting a lot with the account that does not ask for a verification though and not an account that uses a number to verify?
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Originally Posted By liftyousay
6tin for win10


have you just been resetting a lot with the account that does not ask for a verification though and not an account that uses a number to verify?
That's tough to test for because I only have plus on an account with more than 50 friends, and having plus allows for the biggest sample size to see how many matches I get a week with a controlled number of swipes (to prevent variance).

If I could find out how to link plus to multiple accounts (someone recently told me you could), I can test this.
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Originally Posted By poland144
So if the algorithm was fixed to disallow your exploit, why not inform us what it was
There's always a chance they change it back (unlikely, but if enough customers complain about the new algo there's always a chance that they see the old one as more profitable), or that another similar app comes out, becomes popular and suffers from the same exploit.

So there's still value in keeping it private, there's not much value to me in posting it publicly.
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Originally Posted By pancakemouse
That's tough to test for because I only have plus on an account with more than 50 friends, and having plus allows for the biggest sample size to see how many matches I get a week with a controlled number of swipes (to prevent variance).

If I could find out how to link plus to multiple accounts (someone recently told me you could), I can test this.
I feel like I've had plus linked to 2 accounts before. Can you not do it now? I already bought a year on this phone a while back
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- Create a bunch of hot female catfish accounts and mass reject every single guy in the city except for one profile

I did this. That's how I thought the bot worked, honestly. Problem is I only had 5 accounts, you probably need 50, and they got banned really fast.

I spoofed to a remote location and set my setting to looking for "men" and swiped left once every day, using someone else's profile pictures and switched my sexual preferences and location and came back.

The latter worked but I think theyve fixed their cache right?
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Originally Posted By imbored21
Or just turn men on and every one will match giving you a high score. Just ignore their messages and appreciate their compliments while they bring you closer to slaying kunt.
Interdesting. Can anyone non-red confirm
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Originally Posted By poland144
Interdesting. Can anyone non-red confirm
Hard to say. From what I've read in articles, the men swiping you need to have high ELO themselves to have any sort of effect. It isn't the # of right swipes on your profile but the ELO of the people doing it.
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Originally Posted By ausman!
Hard to say. From what I've read in articles, the men swiping you need to have high ELO themselves to have any sort of effect. It isn't the # of right swipes on your profile but the ELO of the people doing it.
but *******s right swipe everything so it probably has a compound effect
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Originally Posted By poland144
but *******s right swipe everything so it probably has a compound effect
Would probably just be better to just spoof to Manilla or some huge Asian city, if you're white, every Asian chick will right swipe.

Will try this strategy out: When im sleeping ill set my tinder account overseas to Men/women to build ELO in NY. Then when I wake up ill set it back to my city and women only. It's been 5 minutes in NY and already have 1 gay dude and some average looking chick who swiped me
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So the way tinder sorts out your matches, I think you get paired with people who have been swiped yes or no on an equal level as you. I'm getting non-stop 3/10 whales on mine now fml
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Wait a minute so can someone explain to me... I think we are all on the same page that tinder is not the same tinder that was out 2+ years ago, that they're limiting likes or throttling profile in some manner (ELO score, etc). So how does Tinder benefit from having guys get less matches with this current algorithm, why wouldn't theywantpeople to get matches more readily so they continue to use the app? The way the algorithm is currently, people are going to stop using tinder
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Originally Posted By VitaCrave
Wait a minute so can someone explain to me... I think we are all on the same page that tinder is not the same tinder that was out 2+ years ago, that they're limiting likes or throttling profile in some manner (ELO score, etc). So how does Tinder benefit from having guys get less matches with this current algorithm, why wouldn't theywantpeople to get matches more readily so they continue to use the app? The way the algorithm is currently, people are going to stop using tinder
It doesn't matter whether guys have less matches or not as the ratio for Men:Women is probably atleast 2.5:1. In the online dating world, it's keeping the women happy and making sure they stay. The men will be everywhere, regardless.

The fact that an average looking girl can easily get ~50 matches a day should tell you how thirsty men are.
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hoe chit...! spoofed to Manila have like 5 chicks ready to come straight to my fictitious 5 star hotel and fuk for free (well one said I need to pay for her uber)...

Best line so far:

Me: Come to my hotel
Her: What do you want to do? I'm not into hookups.
Me: I'll get you real wet tho
Her: The thing is I have PMS now

This is fukin too fun. Need to stop or I'll waste my Saturday collecting nude pics from these girls on whatsapp.



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Originally Posted By swissradius
- Create a bunch of hot female catfish accounts and mass reject every single guy in the city except for one profile

I did this. That's how I thought the bot worked, honestly. Problem is I only had 5 accounts, you probably need 50, and they got banned really fast.
How did a bunch of female catfish accounts that were passing on guys (not matching them) get banned!? I'm assuming you mean reported? I can't imagine many guys reporting you when they haven't even matched you unless you are using obviously fake pics (ie. a famous model etc.)
Originally Posted By poland144
Interdesting. Can anyone non-red confirm
I don't think getting 'voted up' by guys will help. And changing genders may very well reset your ELO anyway. Better off running an MM account and letting your profile sit and then switching pics back before swiping I'd imagine.
Originally Posted By ausman!
Would probably just be better to just spoof to Manilla or some huge Asian city, if you're white, every Asian chick will right swipe.

Will try this strategy out: When im sleeping ill set my tinder account overseas to Men/women to build ELO in NY. Then when I wake up ill set it back to my city and women only. It's been 5 minutes in NY and already have 1 gay dude and some average looking chick who swiped me
One thing that we don't know is whether ELO ratings are geographically specific. Does getting 'voted up' by thousands of Filo chicks help me elsewhere? Hard to say, try it out and report back.

Also IIRC you live in a city I'm considering moving too, can't remember if it was you... How does it compare to Sydney there in terms of women? PM the city if you don't mind, I think it was you I ran the bot for there.

After checking online dating sites etc. it seems to have way better ratio's than Sydney, and demographically things look much better, there's also alot of other things I like about it (much cheaper housing, generally more right wing etc.). If I stay in Australia it looks like the best place to be on paper right now.
Originally Posted By CXVII
So the way tinder sorts out your matches, I think you get paired with people who have been swiped yes or no on an equal level as you. I'm getting non-stop 3/10 whales on mine now fml
Yeah, what we're calling ELO for the purpose of this. It's not technically an ELO algorithm, but it follows similar logic I'd imagine:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

I think there's a bit of the 'if you like Terminator you also might like Predator, Alien etc.' Amazon recommendation type algorithm logic in there too. Probably a mix of the two
Originally Posted By spadelexus
hoe chit...! spoofed to Manila have like 5 chicks ready to come straight to my fictitious 5 star hotel and fuk for free (well one said I need to pay for her uber)...
It's an eye opener isn't it?
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Well I guess the ELO system makes sense but fuarking hell lol
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Originally Posted By BRBMakingMoney
One thing that we don't know is whether ELO ratings are geographically specific. Does getting 'voted up' by thousands of Filo chicks help me elsewhere? Hard to say, try it out and report back.

Also IIRC you live in a city I'm considering moving too, can't remember if it was you... How does it compare to Sydney there in terms of women? PM the city if you don't mind, I think it was you I ran the bot for there.

After checking online dating sites etc. it seems to have way better ratio's than Sydney, and demographically things look much better, there's also alot of other things I like about it (much cheaper housing, generally more right wing etc.). If I stay in Australia it looks like the best place to be on paper right now.
Brisvegas?

What online dating sites have you checked? The only decent site I was aware of was OKC.

I don't really have any issues in Brisbane with dates, ****ed 3 new girls this week - even though I never bring them home. I don't specifically target the 18-21 yr olds, most of them you'll find are attention whores only interested in IG followers or using tinder for a laugh. I don't have money status going for me so it might be entirely different for you.

I was hooking up with a 37 yr old visiting from Perth on a business trip whom I met on tinder, stayed at her hotel room and got my dinner paid for. We will be meeting up again when she returns, I'm specifically her Brisbane only ****toy. According to her, most tinder guys in Brisbane are ugly.
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I spoofed to Manila and swiped for a little bit over a half hour. Nonstop. I'm wearing an expensive tux in my main photo and look decently groomed. ZERO MATCHES.

Also spoofed to Moscow, got 2 or 3 8/10s holy chit I'm moving to Moscow. Still seeing that I swiped at least 200-400 profiles in each city, 3 matches seems awfully low. I'm nowhere near that ugly haha

BTW: I can tell my ELO went up after the moscow matches. I started seeing more 8/10+ girls in my <5 mile radius which I've never seen before and I really haven't seen anyone in that radius for awhile, no more than 1-2 like 5s on occasion, anyway.
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Originally Posted By ausman!
It doesn't matter whether guys have less matches or not as the ratio for Men:Women is probably atleast 2.5:1. In the online dating world, it's keeping the women happy and making sure they stay. The men will be everywhere, regardless.

The fact that an average looking girl can easily get ~50 matches a day should tell you how thirsty men are.
Tinder cares about maintaining a female userbase, and gets its $$ from its male userbase on tinder plus. Obviously women don't have to pay for tinder plus if they want to get matches. So yes, Tinder has an incentive to create a false impression in its male userbase that they need to upgrade to Tinder plus to match. They don't care about the non-paying males for the above reasons.
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Originally Posted By BRBMakingMoney
It's an eye opener isn't it?
It's to the point I'm considering making a documentary traveling the world reporting on the hookup culture in different countries using dating apps...as an above average looking near 40yo American.

If Netflix or bangbrahs don't wanna produce it, you got some capital for a piece of the profit?

Legit atm have two Asian girls down for a 3 some in Manila, and a cute little 20 year old in Venezuala picking out safe words.

Will post pix in a few.
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Originally Posted By spadelexus
It's to the point I'm considering making a documentary traveling the world reporting on the hookup culture in different countries using dating apps...as an above average looking near 40yo American.

If Netflix or bangbrahs don't wanna produce it, you got some capital for a piece of the profit?

Legit atm have two Asian girls down for a 3 some in Manila, and a cute little 20 year old in Venezuala picking out safe words.

Will post pix in a few.
Lol... Oh, over 40.. asian manlet checking in...
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any advice on photos? don't wanna say im good-looking, but didn't know i was that hideous either (got a legit 2/10 match in a whole week of max swiping). my bio mentions my height, medical student and some other meaningless stuff.

what photos yield the most success? i don't wanna complaing but it's difficult to get matches as an average brah.

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Originally Posted By Sternentreue
any advice on photos? don't wanna say im good-looking, but didn't know i was that hideous either (got a legit 2/10 match in a whole week of max swiping). my bio mentions my height, medical student and some other meaningless stuff.

what photos yield the most success? i don't wanna complaing but it's difficult to get matches as an average brah.

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