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post 1474811191 12-12-2016, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
http://www.muscleandperformance.com/...-strength-team

Weird how a lot of these fighters are reporting that they incorporate fairly heavy compounds into their routine... I mean, compound lifts don't mean anything right?
compounds are very beneficial i dont think anyones arguing that. But there's more to compound lifts than minimizing the range of motion in order to maximize weight. And if youre going to tell me that powerlifting doesnt include shortening the range of motion dont kid yourself. Bench press powerlifting has turned into a "who can arch their back to get their chest closest to the bar" contest and 95% of powerlifters pull sumo because its a shorter ROM.

Not to mention all the accessories used such as wraps, sleeves etc. its turned into a gimmick

I also think powerlifting gets alot of its "bad rep" from the misc because of the people who do it. The IG videos, the posting of stats in their bios makes it a very as the misc would say "cringe worthy" activity and full of narcissism. then you get every man and woman who decides to follow a powerlifting workout scheme and suddenly they consider themselves powerlifters and hog equipment at the gym for 30 minutes to do 3 working sets because "they need to regain their strength" to do another set of squats with 225 for 2 reps.

I hate to say it, but its quickly becoming the new crossfit. Where the elites are elite and should be admired, but since its fair game for anyone and everyone, the mass amount of people at the bottom are giving it a very negative image.

"Bodybuilding" suffers alot less from this because, even though anyone can do it, no ones going to listen to you about it until they hit 200+lbs and actually look like they lift. And most wont consider themselves a "bodybuilder" until they meet certain standards in terms of size and strength.
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
compounds are very beneficial i dont think anyones arguing that. But there's more to compound lifts than minimizing the range of motion in order to maximize weight. And if youre going to tell me that powerlifting doesnt include shortening the range of motion dont kid yourself. Bench press powerlifting has turned into a "who can arch their back to get their chest closest to the bar" contest and 95% of powerlifters pull sumo because its a shorter ROM.

Not to mention all the accessories used such as wraps, sleeves etc. its turned into a gimmick

I also think powerlifting gets alot of its "bad rep" from the misc because of the people who do it. The IG videos, the posting of stats in their bios makes it a very as the misc would say "cringe worthy" activity and full of narcissism. then you get every man and woman who decides to follow a powerlifting workout scheme and suddenly they consider themselves powerlifters and hog equipment at the gym for 30 minutes to do 3 working sets because "they need to regain their strength" to do another set of squats with 225 for 2 reps.

I hate to say it, but its quickly becoming the new crossfit. Where the elites are elite and should be admired, but since its fair game for anyone and everyone, the mass amount of people at the bottom are giving it a very negative image.

"Bodybuilding" suffers alot less from this because, even though anyone can do it, no ones going to listen to you about it until they hit 200+lbs and actually look like they lift
I wanted to hate on this but god damn if it isn't right on

Bodybuilding is worse in its own right but I don't even feel like touching it. Go watch "Generation Iron" for context
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post 1474812871 12-12-2016, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
compounds are very beneficial i dont think anyones arguing that. But there's more to compound lifts than minimizing the range of motion in order to maximize weight. And if youre going to tell me that powerlifting doesnt include shortening the range of motion dont kid yourself. Bench press powerlifting has turned into a "who can arch their back to get their chest closest to the bar" contest and 95% of powerlifters pull sumo because its a shorter ROM.

Not to mention all the accessories used such as wraps, sleeves etc. its turned into a gimmick

I also think powerlifting gets alot of its "bad rep" from the misc because of the people who do it. The IG videos, the posting of stats in their bios makes it a very as the misc would say "cringe worthy" activity and full of narcissism. then you get every man and woman who decides to follow a powerlifting workout scheme and suddenly they consider themselves powerlifters and hog equipment at the gym for 30 minutes to do 3 working sets because "they need to regain their strength" to do another set of squats with 225 for 2 reps.

I hate to say it, but its quickly becoming the new crossfit. Where the elites are elite and should be admired, but since its fair game for anyone and everyone, the mass amount of people at the bottom are giving it a very negative image.

"Bodybuilding" suffers alot less from this because, even though anyone can do it, no ones going to listen to you about it until they hit 200+lbs and actually look like they lift
Repped because I am no longer a sumo puller
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what's wrong with taking 10 minutes in between sets?
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Originally Posted By mkpat⏩
Aware of response thread but I'll bite. If we're going to use the term "cope" then bodybuilding and powerlifting are both ways to cope with our inefficiencies. Both are personal and neither are bad.

For example, I started lifting because i was a skinny bastard and wanted to look awesome in clothes.As I got older I decided no one really cares how aesthetic I am, but I still wanted to be stronger because I felt like I was weak. Turns out I love the latter and still lift heavy because I enjoy it plus it carries over to athletics, which being aesthetic doesn't.
"One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
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I train the way I do because it's what I enjoy most. I don't enjoy "functional training" but I'm sure others do and that's how they train. If you don't enjoy the way you train, you're just gonna get burnt out and quit altogether.

It pains me to see new lifters following some cookie cutter PL style program, crossfit/functional strength, or even some amalgamation of a bodybuilding routine but you can tell they're only doing it because it was pushed on them as "the best routine" or "best program." Fuk anyone who does that to new lifters.
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
compounds are very beneficial i dont think anyones arguing that. But there's more to compound lifts than minimizing the range of motion in order to maximize weight. And if youre going to tell me that powerlifting doesnt include shortening the range of motion dont kid yourself. Bench press powerlifting has turned into a "who can arch their back to get their chest closest to the bar" contest and 95% of powerlifters pull sumo because its a shorter ROM.
But nobody ITT was saying anything about minimizing ROM in order to maximize weight? That is totally a fair point, however. I don't believe in minimizing ROM in order to put additional weight on the bar. I don't think powerlifting should be about that. However, I didn't see any mention of specifically powerlifting per say.

The thread was mainly regarding compounds IMO. Or at least, my points were.
Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
Not to mention all the accessories used such as wraps, sleeves etc. its turned into a gimmick

I also think powerlifting gets alot of its "bad rep" from the misc because of the people who do it. The IG videos, the posting of stats in their bios makes it a very as the misc would say "cringe worthy" activity and full of narcissism. then you get every man and woman who decides to follow a powerlifting workout scheme and suddenly they consider themselves powerlifters and hog equipment at the gym for 30 minutes to do 3 working sets because "they need to regain their strength" to do another set of squats with 225 for 2 reps.

I hate to say it, but its quickly becoming the new crossfit. Where the elites are elite and should be admired, but since its fair game for anyone and everyone, the mass amount of people at the bottom are giving it a very negative image.

"Bodybuilding" suffers alot less from this because, even though anyone can do it, no ones going to listen to you about it until they hit 200+lbs and actually look like they lift. And most wont consider themselves a "bodybuilder" until they meet certain standards in terms of size and strength.
I agree with this portion completely.

The industry saw a way to make money off of the average joe and profited. It's definitely become gimmicky.

There is a benefit to some of the equipment, but coming in all decked out to squat 2 plates is overkill.
post 1474835451 12-12-2016, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
I agree with this portion completely.

The industry saw a way to make money off of the average joe and profited. It's definitely become gimmicky.

There is a benefit to some of the equipment, but coming in all decked out to squat 2 plates is overkill.
lol the worst is when someone asks for a form check online on some other website's forum and you say "why are you using a belt and straps to deadlift 2 plates" everyone just spazzes at you and says heavy is relative. It's definitely kind of deluded people I guess.
post 1475063291 12-14-2016, 10:22 AM
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Seems like all of the hardcore powerlifters I run into fall into one of the following buckets

>Genetics were not good enough.
>Not enough discipline to watch the diet.
>Not enough drive to focus on the mind-muscle connection.
>Ego too big to lower the weight and perform the exercise properly.
>Couldn't compete against other men in the dating market, decided to compete against other men in the gym instead.
>Father alcoholic.
post 1475063401 12-14-2016, 10:23 AM
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No but you're the most failed poster on the misc at your core
post 1475063521 12-14-2016, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By 420Layers⏩
No but you're the most failed poster on the misc at your core
Given the recent condition and quality of this board, I will take it as a compliment.
post 1475063531 12-14-2016, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By 420Layers⏩
No but you're the most failed poster on the misc at your core
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Powerlifter checking in...can confirm I didn't want to get on an insulin bike to decrease bodyfat. Am stronger natty than some celltech using bbers, so IDGAF.
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post 1475063871 12-14-2016, 10:27 AM
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How does a powerlifter, who's whole goal is to get white lights and perform a lift properly, have an ego that is too big to perform a lift properly? Most body builders (actual IFBB pros, not casual competitors) fall more into that category
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
Powerlifter checking in...can confirm I didn't want to get on an insulin bike to decrease bodyfat. Am stronger natty than some celltech using bbers, so IDGAF.
Decreasing bodyfat has nothing to do with the insulin bike. It is 100% diet.
post 1475064591 12-14-2016, 10:32 AM
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Didn't you make this thread yesterday? No wonder you're red.
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Yes
post 1475065801 12-14-2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By MadsMikkelsen⏩
Yes
repped
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Permabulking and ego-lifting are both symptoms of the same insecurity.
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Originally Posted By jawbruh⏩
Show me an A list boxer with above average leg development.

Maybe you should stop posting all together.
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Originally Posted By jawbruh⏩
Show me an A list boxer with above average leg development.

Maybe you should stop posting all together.
Show me an A list MMA fighter without above average leg development
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lol how did u become red *******?
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I have never seen a shredded dude (or strong powerlifter) standing around concerning themselves with how others train.

Usually they are focused, friendly and understanding that people have different goals.

What's up with that, OP?
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since when are deadlifts and squats functional movements? The powerlifting crowd say 'it's functional for powerlifting' well no ****. But that says absolutely nothing about carry over to everyday life. why is nearly every gym powerlifter some fat overweight neckbeard - and in what way is being overweight, slow and unfit functional - please tell because I'd love to know
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this hasn't been discussed 5 times over the last few days.
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if you go to the gym everyday it carries over to everyday life tho
Have a good day, fellow miscer.
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Originally Posted By Restraint⏩
if you go to the gym everyday it carries over to everyday life tho
unless you is pro, who goes to gym everyday
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Originally Posted By White-Belt⏩
since when are deadlifts and squats functional movements? The powerlifting crowd say 'it's functional for powerlifting' well no ****. But that says absolutely nothing about carry over to everyday life. why is nearly every gym powerlifter some fat overweight neckbeard - and in what way is being overweight, slow and unfit functional - please tell because I'd love to know
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Originally Posted By Nosferatu187⏩
this hasn't been discussed 5 times over the last few days.
Sorry - what was the consensus
Originally Posted By Restraint⏩
if you go to the gym everyday it carries over to everyday life tho
That's clearly not what the OP is getting at - which is why I said with respect to general fitness and he ability to do normal things
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