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post 1484651921 02-22-2017, 07:29 PM
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lots of retarded posts ITT as expected.

Don't have kids OP, you obviously don't want to. End of story.
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I'd only have kids if I loved a girl and we both wanted them. And of course combined income >$150k to cover the cost of raising a child. Too many people these days on average incomes just having multiple kids for the government assistance, not because they actually WANT 3+ children.
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100% understandable people don't want kids young and in todays times, society is changing and that's fine. However, chances are you're probably going to be lonely and want some company when you get to your 50s and older. Adoption is always a great choice at this point. Adopt some cool kid, spoil the hell out of him with all your saved up cash, watch him grow and die knowing you gave him a better life. Not a bad idea srs.
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I'm not having kids because I got a vasectomy a while back when I was 21. For the record, population growth is exponential, the world wouldn't care a lot if one guy like me isn't having kids. Now factor in me having three other siblings, I can be used as a free time uncle to look after the kids.
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post 1484654081 02-22-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted By baboracus5⏩
It's written in every human's DNA to have children. You can either accept and embrace it or see it as a challenge to overcome.
The urge to have sex is far stronger than the need to have kids. Guys have a far lesser need for that than women.
post 1484659401 02-22-2017, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted By ZenBowman⏩
LOL, not sure if srs.

25 is THE optimal age to have children (srs).
I really don't understand. Seems like the worse possible time. You are most likely just starting out in your career. Not much money. Not much experience in anything really. If you have kids then you will be sacrificing hundreds of thousands of dollars in compounding interest that you could be sacking away for 15 years until you are 40.

By the time you are 40 you could most likely have over half a million stored away. Then have your kid, set up a massive trust fund so they can go to whatever college they want and enjoy life to the fullest. Personally for me If i ever have a child I want to provide an amazing existence for that child and every opportunity that they could possible have.

People saying you can't have kids that old (40) because you will be too old to play with them?? Like what??? If you are 45-50 years old and can't play with your children you are a sack of lazy chit who is probably fat as fuark. That is on you and your unhealthy ways.
post 1484664331 02-22-2017, 09:24 PM
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I'm in a very similar situation as op with a similar view. We did everything right planning on wanting to have kids some day but the desire just isn't there. We're getting more enjoyment from traveling and going out on the weekends. If we had a kid we could certainly handle it, but why not just do what makes you happy?

Thousands of years ago people didn't live long so it was advantageous to multiply as fast as possible. Kids were assets. Now they need to spend the first third of their life just learning how to contribute to our advanced society.
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If that's what you both want then who gives a **** what other people think.
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post 1484667111 02-22-2017, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted By SmokeyNYY⏩
I really don't understand. Seems like the worse possible time. You are most likely just starting out in your career. Not much money. Not much experience in anything really. If you have kids then you will be sacrificing hundreds of thousands of dollars in compounding interest that you could be sacking away for 15 years until you are 40.

By the time you are 40 you could most likely have over half a million stored away. Then have your kid, set up a massive trust fund so they can go to whatever college they want and enjoy life to the fullest. Personally for me If i ever have a child I want to provide an amazing existence for that child and every opportunity that they could possible have.

People saying you can't have kids that old (40) because you will be too old to play with them?? Like what??? If you are 45-50 years old and can't play with your children you are a sack of lazy chit who is probably fat as fuark. That is on you and your unhealthy ways.
Im older and had my kids in my 30s. I have 2 sons and wish I had them earlier. Its not about lacking the energy or will to play with them but I will be pushing 60 when they are in their early and mid 20s and it will rob me of some years of seeing them grow into men and having their families etc... being older increases likelihood of birth defects, once you are ready to settle down having kids dovetails nicely with that decision since you will be home more and focus more on family activities etc... no reason to wait 10-15 years if that is where you are in life at 25. I would have had my kids at 28 or 29 if things had gone as planned but meh. That said, I am financially stable and my kids do both have custodial accounts that I am building up for them, I don't have to make any financial sacrifices, my wife gets to stay at home, etc... Your comments about sacrificing 'hundreds of thousands of dollars' is just retarded, kids aren't that expensive and if you have them with a good woman then they aren't that limiting in terms of your personal freedoms.
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Originally Posted By SmokeyNYY⏩
I really don't understand. Seems like the worse possible time. You are most likely just starting out in your career. Not much money. Not much experience in anything really. If you have kids then you will be sacrificing hundreds of thousands of dollars in compounding interest that you could be sacking away for 15 years until you are 40.

By the time you are 40 you could most likely have over half a million stored away. Then have your kid, set up a massive trust fund so they can go to whatever college they want and enjoy life to the fullest. Personally for me If i ever have a child I want to provide an amazing existence for that child and every opportunity that they could possible have.

People saying you can't have kids that old (40) because you will be too old to play with them?? Like what??? If you are 45-50 years old and can't play with your children you are a sack of lazy chit who is probably fat as fuark. That is on you and your unhealthy ways.
Chances for birth complications increase once the woman hits 30ish. So its understandable that most couples would be having children around 25-28 with a few years into their careers.
post 1484668601 02-22-2017, 10:04 PM
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post 1484675671 02-22-2017, 11:41 PM
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post 1484676171 02-22-2017, 11:52 PM
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white people not having kids is why this nation depends on illegals and legals to keep up the population.

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post 1484676471 02-22-2017, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted By quadfecta⏩
Chances for birth complications increase once the woman hits 30ish. So its understandable that most couples would be having children around 25-28 with a few years into their careers.
Fertility decreases, testing increases, risks increase its true. There was a stage where more babies with Down's syndrome were born to parents in their 20s cos they weren't tested

But having children at the peak of your career development also has results on career potential, earnings potential

It's all statistics. You make your choices and play your cards. Life doesn't hang on whether you, individually, procreate.

Too many people make abysmal parents for it not to be a valid choice not to have them.

I think the thing to think about is how you picture yourself at 60 or 70 looking back. If you'd be happy with the picture of never having had kids, you're probably on the right path.

I never wanted kids in my 20s but at a certain stage of success and repetition of the same business and social cycles life felt a bit empty and it became the next challenge, the next way to throw it all up in the air and experience something new then it became a need.

Looking back, I don't regret a single moment. You get life stages so you can experience life, personally I'd hate to miss out on something as fundamental as parenting
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Kids cost alot of money, take alot of time and patience, and you will get your hands dirty. But they light up your world like you never thought possible. The worlds over populated but it can be a chance to teach them YOUR values and lessons so that once we're gone and the older generations, maybe things can work out. As for not being able to accomplish things in life, I've seen 70 year olds climb the tallest mountains. You can travel and do stuff anytime in life so long as you stay active and eat right. But end of the day choice is yours. The road is a long one either way
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post 1484677031 02-23-2017, 12:11 AM
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You probably have sub par genes anyway so no real loss. But I kinda feel the same. Although you'll probably regret not having them when you're older and literally have nothing to look forward to in life. Imagine being 50 and childless. What the fuk do you live for?
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wish i had a kid.

dating two fertile women so we'll c. hope to pop a seed in one of them. do'nt have much time left.
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post 1484677641 02-23-2017, 12:21 AM
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I work with old people
Be prepared for no visitors and absolutely nobody giving a fuk about you when you get old
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
Been with girlfriend for 7 years. She wants kids, but I don't. Both know it's a deal breaker but we just can't end it with each other.

Hurts my feels that the decision not to have kids will break us up. Would happily spend rest of my life with her but just can't get over the kids thing.
You're 24 dude, relax. You don't know if your mind will change in 5 years after a little more life happens.
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Originally Posted By AfricanGirth⏩
Now that you are infact alive would you honestly say you'd prefer to have not existed at all?
Do you spend literally every waking moment of your life trying to impregnate every single girl you see? If not, wtf is wrong with you? What gives you the right to deny all those potential children the chance to be born? You disgust me, you selfish POS
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inb4 50 years old watching friends raise families wishing you had a child/children
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Originally Posted By melDorado⏩
I work with old people
Be prepared for no visitors and absolutely nobody giving a fuk about you when you get old
Truth, kids take and take and they never give back. Brb spending my entire youth and money taking care of my kids. Brb now I'm old and can't even take care of myself and can't afford retirement. it's ok though, my kids will step up. Brb my kids are all "oooo I'm a ghost"
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According to a few articles raising a child to 18 cost approximately $400,000AUD, which equals about $22k per year.

For every year you don't have kids you could retire and travel a continent for 6 months every year.
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Originally Posted By DrunkPanda18⏩
Truth, kids take and take and they never give back. Brb spending my entire youth and money taking care of my kids. Brb now I'm old and can't even take care of myself and can't afford retirement. it's ok though, my kids will step up. Brb my kids are all "oooo I'm a ghost"
Well all that obviously depends on how you raise them. Farm them out to childcare and ignore them when they're home and obviously they might not give a fuk about you. Raise a tight ship where you're all very close and do a lot together and teach them good morals and they'll stick with you believe. I have 2 grown up kids and we're still very close family
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I don't think I'll have kids. In a way it would be nice but I really like being independent and on my own and doing things on my own terms.
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610⏩
Anyone else here strongly considering not having children?
My wife and I will be married 5 years in July. I'm 30 and she's 29. Neither of us ever truly wanted them, and as the years go by we are getting closer to officially making the decision to get my nuts clipped. Not 100% yet. Still thinking we'll give it a few years before we make it official.

The truth is we love our life. We love being free to do whatever we want and the thought of being tied down by a child at this moment doesn't outweigh the benefits of having a Kid. We still have so much we want to accomplish and things we want to experience.
I'm not saying people with children aren't happy or don't get to enjoy their life. That's just crazy. What I am saying is that for what we want out of life, children just get in the way of that for us.

I know what society says about how people should live and the natural life cycle but frankly, we don't care. As selfish as this sounds we just want to make ourselves happy, not our parents or siblings.

Another part is I'm kind of scared to be a father. I know I'd do my best to be a great father but having a child that turns out to be a scumbag would suck. Or a Whore for a daughter.

Sure we'll miss out on some cool things in life, taking kids trick or treating, reading books to them, watching them play sports, but for us, those things don't overcome the joy we get from being free from that massive responsibility.

Any other young married couples out there on the same page as us??
Why get married if you aren't going to have kids? literally no point?
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Originally Posted By melDorado⏩
I work with old people
Be prepared for no visitors and absolutely nobody giving a fuk about you when you get old
Repped.

Any of you myopic goons ever been in or worked in any sort of senior citizen/assisted living homes?

The whole "It'll be nice to have someone to look after and take care of you when you're old" is a fantasy. Your children will be in the prime of their lives, probably far away, in the midst of their careers, and too busy dealing with their own sht to be with you.

They might spare you a few hours each years because they feel bad/obligated, but don't think they really want to
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Same as OP although younger , I am undecided of making that decision. GF said she wants kids I do as well but at the same time I don't 50/50 always when it comes to that can't make up my mind. So I'll give it more time maybe that will help clear things up .
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If you don't have kids, you can't complain about immigrants.

The govt has to bring other ppl in to make up for your lack of kids srs.
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