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post 1488314941 03-23-2017, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By KRANE⏩
Because it works so well here in the U.S.More guns, bigger guns, armored vehicles, more weapons, etc. Do you even hear yourself. Stop giving terrible advice and learn from what works.

Watch the video, the suspect was apprehended...alive. That's a success. A concept U.S. law enforcement seems to have an issue with.
After causing mayhem with a car, crashing it near Parliament, and then getting out and stabbing a police officer to death. If that cop had a gun he could have shot the attacker himself, or even just any civilian bystander if guns were allowed in the UK.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Thought he was serious



What's apples to apples in your mind? US compared to UK? UK doesn't have near the issue of violent crime or drug trade as the US.

I figured you're comparing policing standards to other nations' policing standards. In other nations, cops might take you into an alley and put a bullet in your head if they feel like it.
First World countries. Those equivalent to the U.S.
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Police cause violence you say...yup I believe you are from California all right lol
LA actually, home of the most hated police in the world. And from what I hear/see with good reason.

I've had other cops tell me horror stories of police putting weapons at their head. I don't know where your perspective come from, but police are suppose to be the protectors of the people.
Originally Posted By TheAmericano⏩
Don't be an idiot. Read my post carefully

- It doesn't work to well here in the US because people have the right to gun ownership.

- In the UK there isn't any of that, so If the cops are the only one with guns, well there you go
The criminal justice system in the U.S. is abysmal. Just stop giving advice to other nations. You're not qualified.
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I'd imagine UK cops find themselves in situations where a firearm needs to be drawn far less than cops in the US do. Americans need to take that into consideration.

Still, it's better to be prepared for any scenario despite the likelihood of it occurring. Even the local police in Switzerland are armed and it's like the safest country on earth ffs.
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Originally Posted By KRANE⏩
First World countries. Those equivalent to the U.S.
Fair enough, but if you're going to use police involved shootings or gun related homicide as a measure, you should understand police in the US deal with levels of crime that other 1st World countries simply do not.
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post 1488316801 03-23-2017, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
population 320 million

vs

population of 64 million.

get real pal
do the maths you dickhead
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But who was PSNI? They are all armed

post 1488317491 03-23-2017, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Fair enough, but if you're going to use police involved shootings or gun related homicide as a measure, you should understand police in the US deal with levels of crime that other 1st World countries simply do not.
Still apples to oranges as there is no country equivalent to the U.S.. The US us unique on so many levels, (both +/-), that no apples2applies can really be made here.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
This recent event of the use an assault car and knife to kill some people and stab a UK cop to death*, before dude taken down with a gun **, had me looking at a few vids. I came on this one and it just blows my mind to see. Not even the Aussies nor Canadians put their LE through this. Watching this vid so cringe worthy it drops my T by 50 points.

Cliffs:

Cue Benny Hill theme before watching vid
Feel bad for the LEO of the UK who deal with that
Takes 10 cops to deal with one nut with a knife
Can't fathom justification for it.

Is that what people in the UK think cops should have to do? Be chased around by some nut with a knife like hapless idiots?

In the US, those first steps he takes toward them he would have been burned down from lead poisoning. I truly can't believe anyone in the UK or other low T euro countries is OK seeing that yet make any comments about US police. In the US, don't need 10 cops to deal with some POS like that, just one is needed.



* = RIP officer and those killed with the assault car.

** = After emerging from the vehicle, the attacker stabbed a police officer to death in this recent event. What stopped him? A body guard for a politician with a gun...
Those aren't cops. They're hall monitors.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Still apples to oranges as there is no country equivalent to the U.S.. The US us unique on so many levels, (both +/-), that no apples2applies can really be made here.
Yeah that's what I was getting at. My original reply was in regards to corrupt justice systems and police protocols that all people should find a common ground with. South American countries are a perfect example of that.

It's pointless in my eyes to use violent crime stats alone in this argument, but we can all agree that cops executing people on the spot is wrong and in the US it happens almost never.
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post 1488318601 03-23-2017, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By JeenyusJr⏩
Sure m8 you got all the best cops, each and every one could deal with such situations alone. Grats to you and USA and shame on all the "low T euro countries" for not having such amazing LEO.



Of course the flip side of the argument is that your cops are militarized and scared chit-less of your armed populace. They are also doing the job of psychologist, councilor, sheriff, and solider... with insufficient training. Hence all the tear gassing, excessive forcing, shooting, and killing of disabled, innocents, minorities, or just about anyone who can be perceived as "not complying". Definitely a model for all of us: shoot first, then let the prison system sort 'em out.
Most of this militarized violent U.S. police rhetoric has been sensationalized by the media. Instances of excessive force and unjustified shootings are uncommon and not a part of daily life like its portrayed. At least not where I live, but my state is one of the few that requires license police officers to carry a two or four year degree = highly professional police.
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Originally Posted By DamagedAndDull⏩
...this kind of attack would never work in the US where not only the average cop carries guns, many civilians do as well.
lol wut.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
population 320 million

vs

population of 64 million.

get real pal
3 x 6 = 18.... Still a long way from 120
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lmao at an american trying to school the world on how a police force should be run

when other countries want advice on how to murder innocent people at traffic stops we will come to you for help

until then shut the fuk up
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Originally Posted By Drufeus⏩
It's lethal force used in life and death situations. Of course it causes more death. And the officers who arent justified should be held accountable. So lets not protect the thousands of law enforcement for the mistake of 2 or 3. And it only protects the officer? What? Lol, never going to see eye to eye on this. How many officer deaths or civilian deaths will it take to make it statistically acceptable to carry a firearm?
I'm not on about legitimate uses of lethal force. Furthermore, there isn't exactly a huge demand from within the police to all be armed.. If they thought it would be a legit benefit I am sure there would, if there was, that might change my opinion.
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Originally Posted By mysterylifter⏩
lmao at an american trying to school the world on how a police force should be run

when other countries want advice on how to murder innocent people at traffic stops we will come to you for help

until then shut the fuk up
One thing's for sure, you definitely sound like a level-headed voice of reason and wisdom on this topic.

Wait, no you don't.
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Do people realize that the fat, stupid, out of shape, worthless cops are employed because of LIBERALS?

I'd be fine with having extremely tough standards to become an officer. I think it would lead to better pay, better working conditions, and more respect from the community.

It's a public sector job so that can't happen and it's only getting worse. They're even taking steps to make promotional processes 100% subjective. They're going to pick and choose who they want to make the department look good to the community from a shallow perspective.

Lib cry babies have caused this. Thanks.
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Aussie cop I know looked at the vid and said:

"I can't speak for Canada but that video is just as cringe inducing for me to watch. It would be a gun day in all Australian jurisdictions. Having firearms also negates the need to get so close to someone armed with an edged weapon which allows for easier containment, negotiating and waiting for specialists to arrive."
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Aussie cop I know looked at the vid and said:

"I can't speak for Canada but that video is just as cringe inducing for me to watch. It would be a gun day in all Australian jurisdictions. Having firearms also negates the need to get so close to someone armed with an edged weapon which allows for easier containment, negotiating and waiting for specialists to arrive."
There was a similar video where 3 cops had to try take down a Man with a Hammer, same thing, the guy managed to crack a cop in the head before being tackled to the ground where the police struggled to keep him down. Not sure what they would do here in Ireland but they approach things a little differently in the UK.
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