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post 1505992201 05-25-2017, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
So you're assuming my skill level, have you even seen me box? I guarantee you've never touched a pair of gloves in your life let alone got into a streetfight, don't speak about something you know nothing about. Besides, weight is the biggest factor in boxing by far. There's a high chance he would beat me since he's a pro boxer but I'm not counting myself out completely.
Don't get rustled or take it so personally mayne, this is a stupid debate mainly for lulz

I was a successful amateur boxer from age 12-19.... I'm also a judo bb and have consistently trained bjj/mma/wrestling since my early 20s. Lots of "street" fights too. I have 6" height and a lot of lbs on that guy. And I would still be EXTREMELY cautious of him and how I'd go about closing the distance

Even if you used to be half decent and sparred with some top guys, my comment was directed at you making a big deal about such a meagre height and weight advantage vs an elite fighter

You've also changed your position to 'having a chance' from 'yeah if i trained for a month sure'

Still unbeleivably deluded, but slightly more reasonable
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post 1505992461 05-25-2017, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Slayermanlet⏩
Don't get rustled or take it so personally mayne, this is a stupid debate mainly for lulz

I was a successful amateur boxer from age 12-19.... I'm also a judo bb and have consistently trained bjj/mma/wrestling since my early 20s. Lots of "street" fights too. I have 6" height and a lot of lbs on that guy. And I would still be EXTREMELY cautious of him and how I'd go about closing the distance

Even if you used to be half decent and sparred with some top guys, my comment was directed at you making a big deal about such a meagre height and weight advantage vs an elite fighter

You've also changed your position to 'having a chance' from 'yeah if i trained for a month sure'

Still unbeleivably deluded, but slightly more reasonable
Yeah ok, it's just funny how people automatically assume that just because someone is a world champion boxer, they can beat literally anyone regardless of weight class. There's no doubt some former, semi-pro middleweight boxer out there would demolish this guy given he's somewhat decent. Why do you think Mayweather would never fight a guy like GGG? They wouldn't allow it, it would be a massacre. Just like any boxer would laugh at you if you entertain the thought of Lomachenko fighting Pacquiao, like I said weight is the biggest dealbreaker in boxing whether you like to accept it or not
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post 1505992481 05-25-2017, 03:10 AM
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No I don't think so, the guy has obviously way more training than I do and he just needs a lucky shot and it's lights out. I'm fairly certain I would have a tough time landing the same punch he would land with ease. Size is irrelevant.

Obviously I mean in a boxing match, otherwise with bjj yeah I believe I can make a difference in the outcome of the fight; however again one punch and you're out.
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post 1505992711 05-25-2017, 03:19 AM
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if he's a boxer try bjj. If he's wrestler then punch him from distance.
this dude will throw 1000 punches at any regular lifter for a 2-3 min span. If you don't poke him in the eye or rip his balls (by chance) then it's good night
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post 1505993861 05-25-2017, 03:50 AM
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Hard to say, I would obviously not have a chance if I stood and boxed with him, but lets not forget that boxing is very one-dimensional. It's not certain at all that he would be intelligently defending himself if he got bull rushed, and then its a question how well he would handle grappling with someone over twice his weight.
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post 1505994001 05-25-2017, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted By mcdojo⏩
The point was war machine wrecked multiple people, including one that had 150lbs on him.
Apples and oranges. The 315lb bodygurad was probably a fat ass and I guarantee you war machine was stronger than him. Hghbrahh looks like he is about 3x as strong as the twink in the OP.
post 1505994211 05-25-2017, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Archheretic⏩
Hard to say, I would obviously not have a chance if I stood and boxed with him, but lets not forget that boxing is very one-dimensional. It's not certain at all that he would be intelligently defending himself if he got bull rushed, and then its a question how well he would handle grappling with someone over twice his weight.
Boxing is far from one-dimensional. Fighters can be one dimensional, but no martial art is. Like anything else, boxing has timing, angles, footwork, power, speed, trickery, pressure, evasive defense and static defense, range management.
And because of the focus on footwork boxing is an excellent defense against being bull rushed.
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post 1505994271 05-25-2017, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted By ExpectAnal⏩
Apples and oranges. The 315lb bodygurad was probably a fat ass and I guarantee you war machine was stronger than him. Hghbrahh looks like he is about 3x as strong as the twink in the OP.
Nope. Average bouncers are much tougher than your average miscers, they are not strangers to physical conflict while miscers look like posers. I guarantee you he's stronger than War Machine, and look at the detail: he was wrecking MULTIPLE bouncers at the same time in a closed environment.
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post 1505994411 05-25-2017, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Boxing is far from one-dimensional. Fighters can be one dimensional, but no martial art is. Like anything else, boxing has timing, angles, footwork, power, speed, trickery, pressure, evasive defense and static defense, range management.
And because of the focus on footwork boxing is an excellent defense against being bull rushed.
It's one-dimension of fighting. Though all that is very advanced (and way ahead of every other combat sport). Boxers don't train to take on grappling and kicking. There are numerous examples of Boxers getting owned because of this (against another professional fighter of course, but still at that type of disadvantage). When a Boxer does learn how to take on kicks and grapples, that's when they do excel however. Many MMA fighters go to boxing gyms to learn and polish a lot of the depth that they don't learn in MMA or other combat sports.
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post 1506069861 05-25-2017, 05:33 PM
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most males with at least average height have a huge reach advantage on him. Back him to a wall or other barrier, and tie his hands up. Its not rocket science. I'm not saying couch potato johnny with no combat experience could take him, but even elite boxers(if untrained in ground combat) are just another guy once his very limited offensive tools are taken away.

Maybe he knocks you out on the way in, but if he doesnt, 112 lbs is TINY. Anyone who has ever put hands on someone that small knows that.

Im amazed that boxing fanboys still think that boxers are some superhumans. They're guys with skinny legs(generally) who have put their whole lives into a narrow skillset. Still wildly impressive at what they do, but not gods.
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