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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
That's my feeling too. One kid decided to up the ante.I bet those boys know which one of them threw the rock that killed the man in the car. Yes, he should face a murder charge, not as an adult though. The rest of them should go up as accessories to the crime.
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You can say they were all throwing heavy rocks, but maybe this one kid timed it to specifically kill. Obviously the other kids didn't, as their rocks didn't kill schit and it was obvious who's rock caused the death.
Sorry for bringing up snowballs again but if I throw a snowball at an unwilling bystander, it wizzes by the bystanders head, and the bystander walks away unscathed, perhaps not even knowing how close to death or serious injury he was, an then another unwilling bystander comes walking by and my friend winds up and throws a fastball right at the person's head, drops him on the spot and kills him, am I going to jail for manslaughter too?
Don't think so Jeff.
But we both engaged in illegal activity.
We both knew there were risks of injury and potentially even death.
So why shouldn't I be charged with manslaughter too?
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Originally Posted By TurkBrah⏩
We already know the answer to this.Wonder if the libtard op would have created this thread if the offenders were black?
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/...g-spine-363618
But this doesn't count because fuk da police, am I right?
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
The video claimed the fat one was the kid who threw the rock.I bet those boys know which one of them threw the rock that killed the man in the car. Yes, he should face a murder charge, not as an adult though. The rest of them should go up as accessories to the crime.
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Originally Posted By AsianPaesan⏩
I was just thinking this. My friends and I did some stupid **** as kids, but holy ****. Throwing rocks at vehicles from a bridge is beyond retarded.The fukk?? Is this the latest fad among teenage douchebags nowadays? Holy chit, absolutely rage-worthy
They deserve to be buried under the prison, but they won't be because they're juveniles and will get something like 10 years.
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Originally Posted By pellekuling⏩
But you don't really think what you're doing is going to kill someone.yes. At 16 you are mature enough to realize this is wrong. The worst we did was throw egg at houses. And we were 13.
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10-24-2017, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Layne205⏩
It's not a useless parallel. There a rules against both, both are illegal, both can cause injury and death. To varying degrees, hence the manslaughter charge we assume would be levied vs. the murder charge throwing rocks over the overpass.Maybe it has to be a felony illegal activity for the group punishment to apply. Again though, the snowball death is a freak accident, so it's a useless parallel. I'll turn it around on you this way though, if a group of friends rape your mom, but one of them only watches, should he also be punished?
And what the fuk at your rape example?
Should be some case law of what happens to spectators of rapes. But talk about an even more useless parallel lol.
One is a personal, visceral, directed attack with intent to specifically cause physical and emotional harm.
The other is a random, dangerous high stakes gamble with potenetial to cause physical harm and potential to be completely harmless.
Both are crimes of thrill though I will allow that parallel to be drawn.
Here is another example:
A group 4 friends get highly intoxicated at a bar and when it closes, they drive home in a single car. Their drive is 60 minutes to get home and each friend is so drunk they can only drive 15 mins at a time. They each take turns and the first three drivers get into a lot of close calls with oncoming traffic, nearly hitting a minivan and a schoolbus, etc.
They are all well aware what they are doing is potentially dangerous, but could turn out to be potentially harmless.
Finally the 4th friend gets into the drivers seat on the final leg, and kills an unsuspecting pedestrian legally crossing the street at a crosswalk.
Should all 4 drunks be charged for manslaughter? Some of them might have even been drunker and driving faster on their drives (ie. throwing more rocks, throwing heavier rocks), yet they didn't kill anyone.
4x manslaughter or nah?
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10-24-2017, 06:10 PM
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The misc has gone full fuking stupid.
Miscers are now arguing over race...the fuk? You retards are beyond hopeless.
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they threw a six pound rock off a bridge at a fast moving car? And threw upwards of 20 lbs rocks at cars?
"It's not a prank, it's 2nd degree murder". Very appropriate dialogue.
"You make a bad decision, you could be spending the rest of your life in prison".
I have made bad decisions. This is not a bad decision. This is intentional bodily harm justified under some BS guise of "JUST A PRANK BRO".
**** these kids, hold their parents responsible as well.
Have fun in jail. JAIL IS JUST A PRANK ON YOU. SO ARE THE LAWYER FEES!!! JUST A PRANK BRO!! HAHAHHAAHHA!!!
"It's not a prank, it's 2nd degree murder". Very appropriate dialogue.
"You make a bad decision, you could be spending the rest of your life in prison".
I have made bad decisions. This is not a bad decision. This is intentional bodily harm justified under some BS guise of "JUST A PRANK BRO".
**** these kids, hold their parents responsible as well.
Have fun in jail. JAIL IS JUST A PRANK ON YOU. SO ARE THE LAWYER FEES!!! JUST A PRANK BRO!! HAHAHHAAHHA!!!
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
i wonder if they could make them see the damage done to the body? then face his family in court? maybe then it would sink in on the psychosthey threw a six pound rock off a bridge at a fast moving car? And threw upwards of 20 lbs rocks at cars?
"It's not a prank, it's 2nd degree murder". Very appropriate dialogue.
"You make a bad decision, you could be spending the rest of your life in prison".
I have made bad decisions. This is not a bad decision. This is intentional bodily harm justified under some BS guise of "JUST A PRANK BRO".
**** these kids, hold their parents responsible as well.
Have fun in jail. JAIL IS JUST A PRANK ON YOU. SO ARE THE LAWYER FEES!!! JUST A PRANK BRO!! HAHAHHAAHHA!!!
"It's not a prank, it's 2nd degree murder". Very appropriate dialogue.
"You make a bad decision, you could be spending the rest of your life in prison".
I have made bad decisions. This is not a bad decision. This is intentional bodily harm justified under some BS guise of "JUST A PRANK BRO".
**** these kids, hold their parents responsible as well.
Have fun in jail. JAIL IS JUST A PRANK ON YOU. SO ARE THE LAWYER FEES!!! JUST A PRANK BRO!! HAHAHHAAHHA!!!
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
when I was a kid we used to shoot plastic spring powered airsoft guns at cars - looking back that was really dumb.i wonder if they could make them see the damage done to the body? then face his family in court? maybe then it would sink in on the psychos
these are probably the kids that bully and treat other kids like **** - **** em - not life but at least 15 -20
10-24-2017, 06:46 PM
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What the fukc type of kids even think about doing something remotely close to this? Some people just shouldn't reproduce for the safety of us all srs.
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10-24-2017, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted By CLEAN_SET_OF_10⏩
Lmao at comparing snowballs to rocks.So there is a snowball fight at high school amongst 4 kids. A student is walking by, minding their own business and one kid pegs him in the temple, knocking him to the ground and killing him instantly.
Do all the kids throwing snowballs get charged with murder?
There are strict, known rules against throwing snowballs. Snowballs are known to be dangerous and can and have killed people. People walking to and from classes at school can have a reasonable expectation to be safe from getting hit in the head from a snowball.
Just because one kid took it to the next level and aimed for the head of an innocent bystander, perhaps packing the snow harder so it's like ice and making it denser and weigh more, winding up and using more power with their arm doesn't mean the other kids should be charged with murder.
Maybe the other kids threw snowballs at the bystander. Maybe they purposefully missed and maybe they aimed at less lethal spots on the body.
He who chucked it and caused the damage should be responsible.
Just playing devils advocate, but I'm sure there are stricter rules involved with throwing stuff off overpasses, perhaps even a felony, and if you are part of a group where one person commits a felony resulting in someones death, the entire group is culpable ie. getaway driver in a fatal robbery still gets murder even though they didn't kill anyone.
Do all the kids throwing snowballs get charged with murder?
There are strict, known rules against throwing snowballs. Snowballs are known to be dangerous and can and have killed people. People walking to and from classes at school can have a reasonable expectation to be safe from getting hit in the head from a snowball.
Just because one kid took it to the next level and aimed for the head of an innocent bystander, perhaps packing the snow harder so it's like ice and making it denser and weigh more, winding up and using more power with their arm doesn't mean the other kids should be charged with murder.
Maybe the other kids threw snowballs at the bystander. Maybe they purposefully missed and maybe they aimed at less lethal spots on the body.
He who chucked it and caused the damage should be responsible.
Just playing devils advocate, but I'm sure there are stricter rules involved with throwing stuff off overpasses, perhaps even a felony, and if you are part of a group where one person commits a felony resulting in someones death, the entire group is culpable ie. getaway driver in a fatal robbery still gets murder even though they didn't kill anyone.
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Originally Posted By Twerk4it⏩
“when they discussed throwing rocks"how bored do you and your friends have to be to discuss throwing rocks? city must b a chithole
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10-24-2017, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By CLEAN_SET_OF_10⏩
Anyone who didn't throw the rock should be charged with accessory to 2nd degree murder IMO. That's how the law works. And, if they threw rocks that didn't hit anyone, they should get recklessness or intent to commit bodily harm or whatever. Not much different from a DUI in the 2nd case (you only really get penalized hard if you hurt/kill someone), which I think should have much more severe punishment than it does.It's not a useless parallel. There a rules against both, both are illegal, both can cause injury and death. To varying degrees, hence the manslaughter charge we assume would be levied vs. the murder charge throwing rocks over the overpass.
And what the fuk at your rape example?
Should be some case law of what happens to spectators of rapes. But talk about an even more useless parallel lol.
One is a personal, visceral, directed attack with intent to specifically cause physical and emotional harm.
The other is a random, dangerous high stakes gamble with potenetial to cause physical harm and potential to be completely harmless.
Both are crimes of thrill though I will allow that parallel to be drawn.
Here is another example:
A group 4 friends get highly intoxicated at a bar and when it closes, they drive home in a single car. Their drive is 60 minutes away and each are so drunk they can only drive 15 mins at a time. They each take turns and the first three drivers get into a lot of close calls with oncoming traffic, nearly hitting a minivan and a schoolbus, etc.
They are all well aware what they are doing is potentially dangerous, but could turn out to be potentially harmless.
Finally the 4th driver gets in on the final leg, and kills an unsuspecting pedestrian crossing the street.
Should all 4 drunks be charged for manslaughter? Some of them might have even been drunker and driving faster on their drives (ie. throwing more rocks, throwing heavier rocks), yet they didn't kill anyone.
4x manslaughter or nah?
And what the fuk at your rape example?
Should be some case law of what happens to spectators of rapes. But talk about an even more useless parallel lol.
One is a personal, visceral, directed attack with intent to specifically cause physical and emotional harm.
The other is a random, dangerous high stakes gamble with potenetial to cause physical harm and potential to be completely harmless.
Both are crimes of thrill though I will allow that parallel to be drawn.
Here is another example:
A group 4 friends get highly intoxicated at a bar and when it closes, they drive home in a single car. Their drive is 60 minutes away and each are so drunk they can only drive 15 mins at a time. They each take turns and the first three drivers get into a lot of close calls with oncoming traffic, nearly hitting a minivan and a schoolbus, etc.
They are all well aware what they are doing is potentially dangerous, but could turn out to be potentially harmless.
Finally the 4th driver gets in on the final leg, and kills an unsuspecting pedestrian crossing the street.
Should all 4 drunks be charged for manslaughter? Some of them might have even been drunker and driving faster on their drives (ie. throwing more rocks, throwing heavier rocks), yet they didn't kill anyone.
4x manslaughter or nah?
10-24-2017, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
Just the usual alt right racists that are mad this had nothing to do with black people so they’re trying to deflect. Ignore them.The misc has gone full fuking stupid.
Miscers are now arguing over race...the fuk? You retards are beyond hopeless.
Miscers are now arguing over race...the fuk? You retards are beyond hopeless.
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Is this the website where you found the news story?
http://cynicalafrikan.com/
Linked within the YouTube comment section of the video you posted; I am not surprised.
You and I are playing the exact same game, opposite from one other. I have been analyzing your posts and I can see through every motive of every poster I wish to see, and I know your exact motive. I sniffed out your motivedaysago, actually.
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Linked within the YouTube comment section of the video you posted; I am not surprised.
You and I are playing the exact same game, opposite from one other. I have been analyzing your posts and I can see through every motive of every poster I wish to see, and I know your exact motive. I sniffed out your motivedaysago, actually.
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Originally Posted By Kokanee⏩
Agree completely, but there are quite a few people in this thread that seemingly think all 4 drivers in my DUI example should get vehicular manslaughter.Anyone who didn't throw the rock should be charged with accessory to 2nd degree murder IMO. That's how the law works. And, if they threw rocks that didn't hit anyone, they should get recklessness or intent to commit bodily harm or whatever. Not much different from a DUI in the 2nd case (you only really get penalized hard if you hurt/kill someone), which I think should have much more severe punishment than it does.
That likely isn't what happens in reality if a situation like that unfolds. Likely, the driver at the time who hit the pedestrian is charged with vehicular manslaughter, and the other 3 probably go home and sleep in their beds that night. All that matters in a case of vehicular manslaughter is who was driving at the time of the accident, even though the 3 others drove drunk (threw rocks), were drunker (threw heavier rocks) and drove faster (threw more rocks).
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10-24-2017, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5⏩
Disgusting, glad we don’t let them off with a slap on the wrist in this country.Most def. of murder are the direct intent to kill the person
Happened a lot in down here, and its always manslaughter
14 yo, 16 pound rock, driver killed, manslaughter and couple years in juveyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Chris_Currie
3 young guys, big rock, truck driver killed, manslaughter and short jail termshttp://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s165196.htm
Again, not defending the kids they desereve 20+ years jail imo, just curious as to the different laws definitions
Happened a lot in down here, and its always manslaughter
14 yo, 16 pound rock, driver killed, manslaughter and couple years in juveyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Chris_Currie
3 young guys, big rock, truck driver killed, manslaughter and short jail termshttp://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s165196.htm
Again, not defending the kids they desereve 20+ years jail imo, just curious as to the different laws definitions
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Originally Posted By Twerk4it⏩
Let's be real, it's the only reason you made the thread was because the suspects were white and you know it. All your threads are the same.Just the usual alt right racists that are mad this had nothing to do with black people so they’re trying to deflect. Ignore them.
Don't get me wrong, still ****ed up and they deserve to die.
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10-24-2017, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By niw⏩
You can tell those little kunts have no remorse.
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Originally Posted By Twerk4it⏩
Not sure if serious. They look like they know they have fuked up bad.You can tell those little kunts have no remorse.
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10-24-2017, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted By CLEAN_SET_OF_10⏩
What vid were you watching? They’re facing time for killing an innocent person and there aren’t even tears. They look like they’re being read a bedtime story.Not sure if serious. They look like they know they have fuked up bad.
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Originally Posted By Twerk4it⏩
They look like scared teenagers which is exactly what they are. Drawing conclusions about how remorseful they do or do not feel from a 30 second clip where they don't even speak is stupid especially when they're clearly scared ****less.What vid were you watching? They’re facing time for killing an innocent person and there aren’t even tears. They look like they’re being read a bedtime story.
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Originally Posted By CLEAN_SET_OF_10⏩
Idk where you get “clearly” when there is no emotion in their faces, I’ve seen more emotion on kids getting detention.They look like scared teenagers which is exactly what they are. Drawing conclusions about how remorseful they do or do not feel from a 30 second clip where they don't even speak is stupid especially when they're clearly scared ****less.
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Originally Posted By CLEAN_SET_OF_10⏩
fuk off *******It's not a useless parallel. There a rules against both, both are illegal, both can cause injury and death. To varying degrees, hence the manslaughter charge we assume would be levied vs. the murder charge throwing rocks over the overpass.
And what the fuk at your rape example?
Should be some case law of what happens to spectators of rapes. But talk about an even more useless parallel lol.
One is a personal, visceral, directed attack with intent to specifically cause physical and emotional harm.
The other is a random, dangerous high stakes gamble with potenetial to cause physical harm and potential to be completely harmless.
Both are crimes of thrill though I will allow that parallel to be drawn.
Here is another example:
A group 4 friends get highly intoxicated at a bar and when it closes, they drive home in a single car. Their drive is 60 minutes to get home and each friend is so drunk they can only drive 15 mins at a time. They each take turns and the first three drivers get into a lot of close calls with oncoming traffic, nearly hitting a minivan and a schoolbus, etc.
They are all well aware what they are doing is potentially dangerous, but could turn out to be potentially harmless.
Finally the 4th friend gets into the drivers seat on the final leg, and kills an unsuspecting pedestrian legally crossing the street at a crosswalk.
Should all 4 drunks be charged for manslaughter? Some of them might have even been drunker and driving faster on their drives (ie. throwing more rocks, throwing heavier rocks), yet they didn't kill anyone.
4x manslaughter or nah?
And what the fuk at your rape example?
Should be some case law of what happens to spectators of rapes. But talk about an even more useless parallel lol.
One is a personal, visceral, directed attack with intent to specifically cause physical and emotional harm.
The other is a random, dangerous high stakes gamble with potenetial to cause physical harm and potential to be completely harmless.
Both are crimes of thrill though I will allow that parallel to be drawn.
Here is another example:
A group 4 friends get highly intoxicated at a bar and when it closes, they drive home in a single car. Their drive is 60 minutes to get home and each friend is so drunk they can only drive 15 mins at a time. They each take turns and the first three drivers get into a lot of close calls with oncoming traffic, nearly hitting a minivan and a schoolbus, etc.
They are all well aware what they are doing is potentially dangerous, but could turn out to be potentially harmless.
Finally the 4th friend gets into the drivers seat on the final leg, and kills an unsuspecting pedestrian legally crossing the street at a crosswalk.
Should all 4 drunks be charged for manslaughter? Some of them might have even been drunker and driving faster on their drives (ie. throwing more rocks, throwing heavier rocks), yet they didn't kill anyone.
4x manslaughter or nah?
the chit you're posting and argument you're making is absolute garbage.
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