24, yes 24 year old bodybuider....

12-01-2017, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩

Kind of stupid. He's 24 and on the gas hard and still getting 5th in his weight class. You can tell he has no future in the sport. Should step off and just enjoy his life.

Why risk your health so much just to turn pro and get 16th place every show.

Bodybuilders are ****ing sad.

12-01-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩

Kind of stupid. He's 24 and on the gas hard and still getting 5th in his weight class. You can tell he has no future in the sport. Should step off and just enjoy his life.

Why risk your health so much just to turn pro and get 16th place every show.

Because most people who push this hard actually want to die and feel like they have no reason to live

12-01-2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩

Kind of stupid. He's 24 and on the gas hard and still getting 5th in his weight class.You can tell he has no future in the sport. Should step off and just enjoy his life.

Why risk your health so much just to turn pro and get 16th place every show.

Oh rally? How'd you come to that conclusion? Dude has crazy potential and at least from what I'm seeing, could do well. The real issue is, what does that even mean in pro bbing today? Nothing really when you're average golf pro at a club makes more $$ than you do and a large % of what you make goes to celltech, and you're health often shot to chit. But, the kid has legit potential to do well in bbing.

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12-01-2017, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩

Oh rally? How'd you come to that conclusion? Dude has crazy potential and at least from what I'm seeing, could do well. The real issue is, what does that even mean in pro bbing today? Nothing really when you're average golf pro at a club makes more $$ than you do and a large % of what you make goes to celltech, and you're health often shot to chit. But, the kid has legit potential to do well in bbing.

He's playing the size game at the NPC level. Bumstead, Cardone, Grimes, Montgomery etc all didn't have to play the size game to turn pro, and they did it at a younger age.

This dude is damn near 300 pounds and seems to never come off. If you look at Ramy and other huge dudes they shrink in the off-season. What this dude is doing is a recipe for a short career.

Also doesn't have a structurally pleasing physique.

12-01-2017, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩

He's playing the size game at the NPC level. Bumstead, Cardone, Grimes, Montgomery etc all didn't have to play the size game to turn pro, and they did it at a younger age.

This dude is damn near 300 pounds and seems to never come off. If you look at Ramy and other huge dudes they shrink in the off-season. What this dude is doing is a recipe for a short career.

Also doesn't have a structurally pleasing physique.

As an NPC judge for well over a decade and a few other things that may give me some creds on that topic, I don't agree with the above. The potential is there. Whether ever realizes it is another matter. The limited pics I saw says he has not figured out how to peak for a show, but in terms of size and symmetry for a big guy, he's got that. He's not pretty to look at per se, but that's not what seems to win shows any more. One of various reasons I stopped judging shows...

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12-01-2017, 01:58 PM

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12-01-2017, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted By atomicbbgum⏩

OMG just what the hell went wrong with that guy ^^^^^^^

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12-01-2017, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩

he could just lay down and i'd reverse cowboy tho

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12-01-2017, 02:31 PM

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He will live an even shorter life than Rich Piana. You have to have some serious mental issues to do that to yourself and its a shame his girlfriend seems to be helping him do it.

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12-01-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted By 1hardgainer⏩

Um, no. Girls are attracted to guys with the zyzz/jeff seid physiques, not the mutant mass monsters. If he attracted hbbs why isn't he with one right now?

He’s doing better than 99% of miscers, guys like these tend to only go after gym girls anyway.

12-01-2017, 02:35 PM

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Fuark hair loss is what really scares me about ... Someone talk me out of this way of thinking please lmao

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12-01-2017, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩

As an NPC judge for well over a decade and a few other things that may give me some creds on that topic, I don't agree with the above. The potential is there. Whether ever realizes it is another matter. The limited pics I saw says he has not figured out how to peak for a show, but in terms of size and symmetry for a big guy, he's got that. He's not pretty to look at per se, but that's not what seems to win shows any more. One of various reasons I stopped judging shows...

Maybe. But he's losing to guys that he out muscles by 50 pounds. What's gonna happen if he turns pro and doesn't have that advantage? He's got a lot of work to do. Needs way better quad sweep

12-01-2017, 03:28 PM

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12-01-2017, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩

Maybe. But he's losing to guys that he out muscles by 50 pounds. What's gonna happen if he turns pro and doesn't have that advantage? He's got a lot of work to do. Needs way better quad sweep

Agreed. His upper body far better than his lower, but he has some work to do there. I think he's got the frame and genes for it, but my general take at this point is, why bother? Lotta work for little to nadda return. My advice to guys with crazy genetics, that is genetics is to pursue it as a hobby and fun and focus on obtaining skills, education, etc to have a legit career. Most I try to talk out of even bothering, a tiny % I encourage if they do it for fun. If by crazy fortune they happen to win the big shows and make some decent $ from it for what ever reason, great, but depending on that will see you a 50 something private trainer as best who can show people their pro card. I know tons of guys in that exact situation, so it's not even a little exaggerated. Back in the day they could at least end up with a contract from a supp company, Weider, etc. That's all gone now. As others mentioned, developing a mega following on social media and monetizing that is the way to go if you have the body for it, but that sure as hell aint easy either.

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