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06-04-2018, 10:08 AM
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It's not a new thread until the pointless bitching about .40 starts
06-04-2018, 11:22 AM
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bigger joke: .40 or HPA passing?
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06-04-2018, 11:33 AM
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06-04-2018, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By tdnick⏩
in honor of national cheese day, im going out for quesadillas with extra cheeze and a chit ton of sour cremesBrb getting a P320 in .40
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the only gun that can take sour creme as lubricant.
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06-04-2018, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
It's a real shame the P365 isn't in .40in honor of national cheese day, im going out for quesadillas with extra cheeze and a chit ton of sour cremes
Gun i will be carrying?
the only gun that can take sour creme as lubricant.
Gun i will be carrying?
the only gun that can take sour creme as lubricant.
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06-04-2018, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By tdnick⏩
Bring 20% Less Capacity, With 35% More Muzzle Energy, That Works 82% of the Time, EverydayTMIt's a real shame the P365 isn't in .40
06-04-2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier⏩
DedBring 20% Less Capacity, With 35% More Muzzle Energy, That Works 82% of the Time, EverydayTM
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06-04-2018, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
Misc Firearms Crew LXXII: If you pull the trigger and nobody hears the boom, does the Sig still bring more everyday[sic]?Misc Firearms Crew LXXII: If you pull the trigger and nobody hears the boom, does the Sig still make a sound?
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06-04-2018, 01:29 PM
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06-04-2018, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Yeti06⏩
YAS10mm=goat
I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
06-04-2018, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400⏩
On r'charge, my dude.Talking about soldiers here not cops. But yeah I agree; here only people who like cops are cops
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Originally Posted By fmylife4real⏩
I have shot them quite a bit, but do not own one. Pretty crazy sights that take a second to get used to.Anybody here own a Steyr M9/40-A1 series? Haven't really seen much talk about those in a long time. I had a M40-A1 a long time ago but got rid of it when I switched to loading 9mm.
Originally Posted By Tormoz⏩
Fackler, plsYAS
I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
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06-04-2018, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Tormoz⏩
One of the benefits of working in a morgue is that I get to see what works and what doesn't. Ballistic gelatin is good as far as it goes, but there's nothing like seeing what a bullet actually does once it strikes bone, flesh, and organs. Suffice it to say, it doesn't always mimic ballistic gelatin.YAS
I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
I see an average of 8.2 autopsies per day/365 days per year, and I can tell you that when the chips are down, there's nothing that beats a 12-gauge. As for handguns, the name of the game is not only shot placement but how a properly-placed bullet acts once it gets there. I've seen folks killed by a bb to the eye and others survive after being hit by several well-placed rounds with a 9mm. As for me, I'll take a slow-moving .45 to a gun fight any day. I absolutely despise a 9mm for defensive situations (yes, they will eventually kill but often not quickly enough to prevent the BG from doing you in first) and a .380 as well. These are probably the two calibers I see most often on the autopsy table. But then, I've seen most everything. I've seen a guy killed by a .416 Rigby, as well as a suicide to the head with a .44 Mag that didn't penetrate the skull on the other side.
The long and short of it is that you just don't know how ANY bullet will react to tissue and bone until you open them up and take a look. I've seen hardball fragment and hollowpoints act just like hardball. That said, shoot what you're comfortable with and place your shots well whatever caliber you use.
The .357 is gloriously effective. It's just that semi-autos are much more common than they used to be, so we see far more 9mm and .380 rounds on the autopsy table than we do the .38 and .357. Particularly among the gangbangers, the 9mm and .380 are the weapons of choice. The .357 is a wonderfully effective round for self-defense from what I've seen, but it's rare that we get them in anymore. Yes, the .380 and 9mm will do the job, but usually multiple hits are required as opposed to single hits with a .40 or .45.
06-04-2018, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier⏩
WTF kinda lawyer are youOne of the benefits of working in a morgue is that I get to see what works and what doesn't. Ballistic gelatin is good as far as it goes, but there's nothing like seeing what a bullet actually does once it strikes bone, flesh, and organs. Suffice it to say, it doesn't always mimic ballistic gelatin.
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06-04-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By rtm0004⏩
That is a well known and pretty useless copy pastaWTF kinda lawyer are you
06-04-2018, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I figured, but I've never seen it beforeThat is a well known and pretty useless copy pasta
also was expecting a cheeky answer
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06-04-2018, 02:51 PM
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I would have given you one, if he didn't ruin it as always
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
lmao. I figured it had to be. I started reading it and literally said to myself "man...I think mfc threads have gotten me cynical. This has to be a copy and paste job"That is a well known and pretty useless copy pasta
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06-04-2018, 05:21 PM
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06-04-2018, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Tormoz⏩
i feel like this is total BS. how tf could a fmj out perform an expanding bullet on a human, i dont believe it. theres a reason fmj is not legal to hunt with in most places, its because its not as lethal as an expanding bullet.YAS
I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
You're going to bring up that, and not mention that the writer claims it's good for the bullet to NOT dissipate energy into the target?i feel like this is total BS. how tf could a fmj out perform an expanding bullet on a human, i dont believe it. theres a reason fmj is not legal to hunt with in most places, its because its not as lethal as an expanding bullet.
"FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. "
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06-04-2018, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By ibedanny⏩
just carry a glock 20 and call it goodHow about +P 9mm? Modern hollow point technology is making the 9mm a better option than the fowty.

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06-04-2018, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
Hence (well, in part) the irrelevant nature of that copy pasta lolyou want all the energy to dissipate into the target. why would you want energy to be wasted outside the target?
Originally Posted By ibedanny⏩
My preference based on tests and real world results is standard pressure HST in 124 or 147.How about +P 9mm? Modern hollow point technology is making the 9mm a better option than the fowty.
Gold Dot I'd still go 124+P. Nothing wrong with the +P HST either, and an older but proven and well priced is the Federal 9BPLE which doesn't open as consistently as HST/Gold Dot and doesn't do as well with intermediate barriers but the real world street results don't lie (it's a 115 +P+ Hi Shok bullet)
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