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post 1553034421 06-04-2018, 10:08 AM
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It's not a new thread until the pointless bitching about .40 starts
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier
It's not a new thread until the pointless bitching about .40 starts
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In on misc penis compensation thread.
10mm=goat
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bigger joke: .40 or HPA passing?
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Brb getting a P320 in .40
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Originally Posted By tdnick
Brb getting a P320 in .40
in honor of national cheese day, im going out for quesadillas with extra cheeze and a chit ton of sour cremes


Gun i will be carrying?

the only gun that can take sour creme as lubricant.
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post 1553041951 06-04-2018, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Meatie
in honor of national cheese day, im going out for quesadillas with extra cheeze and a chit ton of sour cremes


Gun i will be carrying?

the only gun that can take sour creme as lubricant.
It's a real shame the P365 isn't in .40
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Originally Posted By tdnick
It's a real shame the P365 isn't in .40
Bring 20% Less Capacity, With 35% More Muzzle Energy, That Works 82% of the Time, EverydayTM
post 1553048231 06-04-2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier
Bring 20% Less Capacity, With 35% More Muzzle Energy, That Works 82% of the Time, EverydayTM
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Misc Firearms Crew LXXII: If you pull the trigger and nobody hears the boom, does the Sig still make a sound?
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Originally Posted By spirit750
Misc Firearms Crew LXXII: If you pull the trigger and nobody hears the boom, does the Sig still make a sound?
Misc Firearms Crew LXXII: If you pull the trigger and nobody hears the boom, does the Sig still bring more everyday[sic]?
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Originally Posted By Yeti06
10mm=goat
YAS


I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400
Talking about soldiers here not cops. But yeah I agree; here only people who like cops are cops
lmao dude
On r'charge, my dude.
Originally Posted By fmylife4real
Anybody here own a Steyr M9/40-A1 series? Haven't really seen much talk about those in a long time. I had a M40-A1 a long time ago but got rid of it when I switched to loading 9mm.
I have shot them quite a bit, but do not own one. Pretty crazy sights that take a second to get used to.
Originally Posted By Tormoz
YAS
I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
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post 1553053341 06-04-2018, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Tormoz
YAS


I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
One of the benefits of working in a morgue is that I get to see what works and what doesn't. Ballistic gelatin is good as far as it goes, but there's nothing like seeing what a bullet actually does once it strikes bone, flesh, and organs. Suffice it to say, it doesn't always mimic ballistic gelatin.

I see an average of 8.2 autopsies per day/365 days per year, and I can tell you that when the chips are down, there's nothing that beats a 12-gauge. As for handguns, the name of the game is not only shot placement but how a properly-placed bullet acts once it gets there. I've seen folks killed by a bb to the eye and others survive after being hit by several well-placed rounds with a 9mm. As for me, I'll take a slow-moving .45 to a gun fight any day. I absolutely despise a 9mm for defensive situations (yes, they will eventually kill but often not quickly enough to prevent the BG from doing you in first) and a .380 as well. These are probably the two calibers I see most often on the autopsy table. But then, I've seen most everything. I've seen a guy killed by a .416 Rigby, as well as a suicide to the head with a .44 Mag that didn't penetrate the skull on the other side.

The long and short of it is that you just don't know how ANY bullet will react to tissue and bone until you open them up and take a look. I've seen hardball fragment and hollowpoints act just like hardball. That said, shoot what you're comfortable with and place your shots well whatever caliber you use.

The .357 is gloriously effective. It's just that semi-autos are much more common than they used to be, so we see far more 9mm and .380 rounds on the autopsy table than we do the .38 and .357. Particularly among the gangbangers, the 9mm and .380 are the weapons of choice. The .357 is a wonderfully effective round for self-defense from what I've seen, but it's rare that we get them in anymore. Yes, the .380 and 9mm will do the job, but usually multiple hits are required as opposed to single hits with a .40 or .45.
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier
One of the benefits of working in a morgue is that I get to see what works and what doesn't. Ballistic gelatin is good as far as it goes, but there's nothing like seeing what a bullet actually does once it strikes bone, flesh, and organs. Suffice it to say, it doesn't always mimic ballistic gelatin.
WTF kinda lawyer are you
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Originally Posted By rtm0004
WTF kinda lawyer are you
That is a well known and pretty useless copy pasta
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
That is a well known and pretty useless copy pasta
I figured, but I've never seen it before

also was expecting a cheeky answer
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I would have given you one, if he didn't ruin it as always
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
That is a well known and pretty useless copy pasta
lmao. I figured it had to be. I started reading it and literally said to myself "man...I think mfc threads have gotten me cynical. This has to be a copy and paste job"
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier
I would have given you one, if he didn't ruin it as always
foiled again
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Originally Posted By Tormoz
YAS


I work in an ER and let me tell you, unless it is .357 mag/ 10mm or higher ft/lb projectile all you are doing is poking holes. Diameter doesn't matter (sorry .45 guys) shots on target and placement mean more. Next would be penetration. FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. Just stating what my two eyeballs see.
i feel like this is total BS. how tf could a fmj out perform an expanding bullet on a human, i dont believe it. theres a reason fmj is not legal to hunt with in most places, its because its not as lethal as an expanding bullet.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
i feel like this is total BS. how tf could a fmj out perform an expanding bullet on a human, i dont believe it. theres a reason fmj is not legal to hunt with in most places, its because its not as lethal as an expanding bullet.
You're going to bring up that, and not mention that the writer claims it's good for the bullet to NOT dissipate energy into the target?

"FMJ is pretty good because it tends to tumble and not dissipate its energy into a person. "
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you want all the energy to dissipate into the target. why would you want energy to be wasted outside the target?
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How about +P 9mm? Modern hollow point technology is making the 9mm a better option than the fowty.
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Originally Posted By ibedanny
How about +P 9mm? Modern hollow point technology is making the 9mm a better option than the fowty.
just carry a glock 20 and call it good
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
you want all the energy to dissipate into the target. why would you want energy to be wasted outside the target?
Hence (well, in part) the irrelevant nature of that copy pasta lol
Originally Posted By ibedanny
How about +P 9mm? Modern hollow point technology is making the 9mm a better option than the fowty.
My preference based on tests and real world results is standard pressure HST in 124 or 147.

Gold Dot I'd still go 124+P. Nothing wrong with the +P HST either, and an older but proven and well priced is the Federal 9BPLE which doesn't open as consistently as HST/Gold Dot and doesn't do as well with intermediate barriers but the real world street results don't lie (it's a 115 +P+ Hi Shok bullet)
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