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Its becoming readily apparent that this Coronavirus Crisis was over-exaggerated
03-24-2020, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted By io31⏩
H1N1 affected mostly the young (under 25). Corona is mostly affecting the elderly - in Italy the avg age was 79.5 for deaths, and keep in mind only 12% of their deaths were from coronavirus alone. 78% of those that died had other preexisting medical conditionsDude , I am not going to even touch the tinfoil hat portion of your posts but this is demonstrably false. This has been pointed out to you many many times but I'll try again. H1N1 has a fatality rate of 0.02%. Corona is estimated to be around 1%. This also overlaps with the fatality rate observed in Diamond Princes, everyone was tested and 700 were infected, 10 of them died (1.4%). What is 1% of 60 million?
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Globalist undertaking on it's way fueld by fear and guilt. And look at all you cucks so quick to surrender all your freedoms. This is why the 2nd ammendment was created.
And stop using mortality rates. It's a media buzzword to make this sound worse than it is. Let's look a total deaths and compare to others. Then let's take out all those already on their death beds that were only alive because of modern medicine.
And stop using mortality rates. It's a media buzzword to make this sound worse than it is. Let's look a total deaths and compare to others. Then let's take out all those already on their death beds that were only alive because of modern medicine.
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03-24-2020, 08:06 PM
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Do you guys think bat soup will show up on the menus of Chinese restaurants in America?
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03-24-2020, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
1. People are either not understanding or underestimating the severity of a potential outbreak until it's too late. Pretty sure there are plenty of people in NYC right now who are too afraid to go out.There are many flaws with what you're arguing.
1. People will still go out and spend money as shown with the issues of people going out to bars and clubs despite COVID-19 awareness until each state mandated curfews and lockdowns.
2. The government is the one forcing the shutdown, forcing many businesses to close as well as employees to be laid off. This isn't even about keeping social distance, this is a complete lockdown. It's not like the government can shut down all businesses for 3 months and resume like normal. Businesses will have already been closed and jobs will have already been lost. Plus the economic stimuluses combined with federal lending will have devalued the dollar, so you will be working harder and longer for less.
3. When we compare our actions with past pandemics - H1N1 for instance (which infected 60 million americans), this measure seems completely drastic for what the current statistics tell us. Testing for COVID 19 is flawed, which skews the overall death rate to seem higher than it is.
4. From what it looks like, most cases seem to be very mild, a vaccine will be a long time away. The young, able and working will be able to develop antibodies through group exposure and fight off the infection. The best measure for now to save everyone is developing herd immunity and isolating the elderly and immunodeficient, along with adding hospital beds and increasing staff
1. People will still go out and spend money as shown with the issues of people going out to bars and clubs despite COVID-19 awareness until each state mandated curfews and lockdowns.
2. The government is the one forcing the shutdown, forcing many businesses to close as well as employees to be laid off. This isn't even about keeping social distance, this is a complete lockdown. It's not like the government can shut down all businesses for 3 months and resume like normal. Businesses will have already been closed and jobs will have already been lost. Plus the economic stimuluses combined with federal lending will have devalued the dollar, so you will be working harder and longer for less.
3. When we compare our actions with past pandemics - H1N1 for instance (which infected 60 million americans), this measure seems completely drastic for what the current statistics tell us. Testing for COVID 19 is flawed, which skews the overall death rate to seem higher than it is.
4. From what it looks like, most cases seem to be very mild, a vaccine will be a long time away. The young, able and working will be able to develop antibodies through group exposure and fight off the infection. The best measure for now to save everyone is developing herd immunity and isolating the elderly and immunodeficient, along with adding hospital beds and increasing staff
2. The government has to force shutdowns due to completely dropping the ball on the initial containment of the spread. We're past that now.
Your schtick sucks and it screams insecurity.
03-24-2020, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By digital022⏩
Guess my location brah1. People are either not understanding or underestimating the severity of a potential outbreak until it's too late. Pretty sure there are plenty of people in NYC right now who are too afraid to go out.
People are still out and about despite having only essential stores being open, especially old ****ers going out for walks
If these bans get lifted, i guarantee you, most people will be happy to be out and about.
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overblown and done for the reasons not told on main stream news
03-24-2020, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By digital022⏩
And when that doesnt work then what? This goalpost will keep moving until the global economies collapse.2. The government has to force shutdowns due to completely dropping the ball on the initial containment of the spread. We're past that now.
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Thanks to carona and misc, I made a few thousand on the stock market.
BRB delta usually around 60 bucks a share, bought on severe discount at around 20 per share. Same with boeing sitting at around 1/3 historical worth. Gettin cash bros, thanks to misc finance carona wizards
BRB delta usually around 60 bucks a share, bought on severe discount at around 20 per share. Same with boeing sitting at around 1/3 historical worth. Gettin cash bros, thanks to misc finance carona wizards
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03-24-2020, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
And has a vaccine, aswell as pre diagnosis treatment.H1N1 infected 60 million Americans. At least 700 million worldwide. And it killed young people.
Can you see where H1N1 and Covid 19 differ?
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- Over exaggerated
- Exponential death toll
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- Exponential death toll
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03-24-2020, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted By BootneckBrah⏩
The vaccine showed up after all the infections and deaths. And unless you got the vaccine way back, you’re not vaccinated. And it’s still around. It’s part of the ecosystem. So will this thing.And has a vaccine.
What’s your point?
What’s your point?
03-24-2020, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By BigHugeLawls⏩
Cool story.Thanks to carona and misc, I made a few thousand on the stock market.
BRB delta usually around 60 bucks a share, bought on severe discount at around 20 per share. Same with boeing sitting at around 1/3 historical worth. Gettin cash bros, thanks to misc finance carona wizards
BRB delta usually around 60 bucks a share, bought on severe discount at around 20 per share. Same with boeing sitting at around 1/3 historical worth. Gettin cash bros, thanks to misc finance carona wizards
I take it the market has bottomed out, and those shares are now going up?
I mean it’s not like they could sink a lot more, and you could actually lose money or anything.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
600 deaths. more people die in car accidents EVERY DAY- Over exaggerated
- Exponential death toll
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- Exponential death toll
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Italian coronavirus cases likely 10 times higher than reported
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21B1CC
So as I and many other miscers thought, the Italian death rate is artificially inflated
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21B1CC
So as I and many other miscers thought, the Italian death rate is artificially inflated
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Originally Posted By S0Jack3d⏩
Did you have a point?600 deaths. more people die in car accidents EVERY DAY
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Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer⏩
I am really interested to seeing how Chinese restaurants deal with this.Do you guys think bat soup will show up on the menus of Chinese restaurants in America?
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I went by the Chinese restaurant near me (called Wok on the Wild Side lol) and it was still kinda packed.
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Originally Posted By Vrykul⏩
which means the death rate is 10 times lowerItalian coronavirus cases likely 10 times higher than reported
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21B1CC
So as I and many other miscers thought, the Italian death rate is artificially inflated
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21B1CC
So as I and many other miscers thought, the Italian death rate is artificially inflated
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03-24-2020, 08:27 PM
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I can't imagine this far into this thing there are still people in Flu Is Worse Crew. Do you guys not have an understanding of basic science and math? Are you people actually mentally retarded? Or just ignore all facts and insist on pretending you know something?
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
H1N1 wasn’t a fomite virus.The vaccine showed up after all the infections and deaths. And unless you got the vaccine way back, you’re not vaccinated. And it’s still around. It’s part of the ecosystem. So will this thing.
This is highly contagious.
There was no where near the number of swine flu patients in the same time scale as Covid 19.
The two aren’t even comparable. Hence nobody who knows what they’re taking about is comparing them.
K? Can we put this to bed?
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Originally Posted By io31⏩
Age matters because:Why does it matter which age group it is affecting? You have to assign a primary cause of death and it is done the same way for COVID and H1N1. Finally, even if you magically shift the blame to the pre-existing conditions, COVID still has 10 times higher fatality.
Are you sure that you are not just quoting numbers that you read somewhere without trying to understand what they mean?
Are you sure that you are not just quoting numbers that you read somewhere without trying to understand what they mean?
- Younger people have stronger immune systems, and are able to recover from diseases much more quickly than the elderly
- The exposure is likely to be much higher for various reasons - school, work, social functions
- Herd immunity is more likely to be the outcome for exposure among the young for this reason
You have to assign a primary cause of death and it is done the same way for COVID and H1N1.
he new study could provide insight into why Italy’s death rate, at about 8% of total infected people, is higher than in other countries.The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.
More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.
While data released Tuesday point to a slowdown in the increase of cases, with a 12.6% rise, a separate study shows Italy could be underestimating the real number of cases by testing only patients presenting symptoms.
According to the GIMBE Foundation, about 100,000 Italians have contracted the virus, daily Il Sole 24 Ore reported. That would bring back the country’s death rate closer to the global average of about 2%.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says
Remember why the death rate is so misleading - because of how flawed the tests are. Most people with mild cases are not being tested. The only way to get an accurate number of the death rate is to literally test everyone.
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Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
Now they’ve switched to even worse comparisons (see above).I can't imagine this far into this thing there are still people in Flu Is Worse Crew. Do you guys not have an understanding of basic science and math? Are you people actually mentally retarded? Or just ignore all facts and insist on pretending you know something?
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Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
2 weeks ago I was told there would be thousands dead.I can't imagine this far into this thing there are still people in Flu Is Worse Crew. Do you guys not have an understanding of basic science and math? Are you people actually mentally retarded? Or just ignore all facts and insist on pretending you know something?
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Originally Posted By io31⏩
Point being, absolutely no one gave a shiat about H1N1 when it was “ravaging” the earf. This thing won’t even be close as deadly.And who is claiming that it will not be a part of the ecosystem. Spanish flu was part of the ecosystem too you know. You think people shouldn't have been worried about that one as well?
1918 Spanish flu situation is not analogous. There was a world war going on that made ideal conditions for the virus. There were no antibiotics either so if you got any sort of bacterial infection you were very vulnerable to the flu.
Are you thinking that millions will die from this thing?
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Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
Retards mostly.I can't imagine this far into this thing there are still people in Flu Is Worse Crew. Do you guys not have an understanding of basic science and math? Are you people actually mentally retarded? Or just ignore all facts and insist on pretending you know something?
But I’m convinced of trolling also.
There’s no way even miscers are this mentally deficient.
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They’ve pretty much bottomed. If anyone with a brain invests right now and has the patience to wait 6 months to a year, their investment is as good as doubled. The bounceback from today has already netted me 30% gainz
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Cool story.
I take it the market has bottomed out, and those shares are now going up?
I mean it’s not like they could sink a lot more, and you could actually lose money or anything.
I take it the market has bottomed out, and those shares are now going up?
I mean it’s not like they could sink a lot more, and you could actually lose money or anything.
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I dont really want to get in a drag out debate because theres too much uncertainty right now. I do believe when everything is said and done and a mini great depression hits people will realize it wasnt worth it.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
yes. We shouldnt flush our economy down the toilet for such a small negligible amount of deaths.Did you have a point?
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
You know H1N1 IS Spanish Flu right? And that its come in waves since 1918 and we've had partial herd immunity to it each time since 1918 right?Point being, absolutely no one gave a shiat about H1N1 when it was “ravaging” the earf. This thing won’t even be close as deadly.
1918 Spanish flu situation is not analogous. There was a world war going on that made ideal conditions for the virus. There were no antibiotics either so if you got any sort of bacterial infection you were very vulnerable to the flu.
Are you thinking that millions will die from this thing?
1918 Spanish flu situation is not analogous. There was a world war going on that made ideal conditions for the virus. There were no antibiotics either so if you got any sort of bacterial infection you were very vulnerable to the flu.
Are you thinking that millions will die from this thing?
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