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post 1618514851 10-05-2020, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Jhalf
Do we agree that a black-black crime rate near 0 would benefit black americans more than a police-black incident rate near(er) 0?

Of course.

I don't even know why you would assume I didn't feel that way.

That doesn't mean I can't feel sick for this guy getting killed. He could have been one of us.
Not sure if you have noticed, but there is a significant amount of BLM people that honest to god think that police are out to get them because they are black. There are a bunch of people that would not agree that other crimes impact the black community more than unjustified police shootings. That dude w/ the bullet points from the article from 2015- I totally believe those stats in regards to plea deals including jail time and literally every bullet... but out of my own curiosity did you ever consider that it isn't racism that causes those outcomes when dealing with courts, but poverty? I bet if you adjusted for income you'd find white people and black people have much much closer to equal outcomes (not saying 100% equal because there is racism I am sure) but I think courts are incredibly biased towards people with money and power.


But to your last point- I agree if it went down as noted in your sources I am sick to my stomach for that man and anyone who knew him because he seemed to have it all and it was taken from him in an instant.
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If true, extremely sad. Hope the officer is held accountable (again, if true). Let’s hope the left doesn’t use this incident as a reason to continue to demonize all police.
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Originally Posted By EternaLovE
yea texas has execution available. if that dumb chit cop shot him because he was convulsing after being tased deserves death penalty.

the gas station obviously has security footage. we will see it.
Only if it hurts the cop's case. Which in this case it sounds like it would. But also, the facts as laid out by OP sound......weird
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
If true, extremely sad. Hope the officer is held accountable (again, if true). Let’s hope the left doesn’t use this incident as a reason to continue to demonize all police.
Fuk man. Saddest part, to me, is that they didn't even try to render 1st aid or anything. Dude laid there till his parents showed up... then he laid there some more :/

Once again *assuming everything went down as presented* all they gotta do is prosecute this officer to the fullest extent of the law for what he/she (guessing she tbh) has done and it discredits and disproves the BLM narrative and justice can be found in the system.

Same as the officer who shot the dude in his own apartment because she got off on the wrong floor. Admittedly she only got 10 years, but still better than nothing.
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wtf @ a good friend just being killed and the first thing you do is make a public inflammatory race-based accusation with no evidence

that's pretty *****ed

sounds like a ****ed situation general though. Nothing like the usual cases of criminals attacking police and being shot in self defence.
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
Fuk man. Saddest part, to me, is that they didn't even try to render 1st aid or anything. Dude laid there till his parents showed up... then he laid there some more :/

Once again *assuming everything went down as presented* all they gotta do is prosecute this officer to the fullest extent of the law for what he/she (guessing she tbh) has done and it discredits and disproves the BLM narrative and justice can be found in the system.

Same as the officer who shot the dude in his own apartment because she got off on the wrong floor. Admittedly she only got 10 years, but still better than nothing.
Like I said earlier though, it'll be interesting to see what'll happen even it was just an outright murder and the cop goes away.

If its murder, it means a guy died for absolutely nothing, and may be worse for race relations. People are going to be pissed because it happened at all.
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post 1618516921 10-05-2020, 05:21 PM
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Sad af

Just goes to show the old adage is true...

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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
wtf @ a good friend just being killed and the first thing you do is make a public inflammatory race-based accusation with no evidence

that's pretty *****ed

sounds like a ****ed situation general though. Nothing like the usual cases of criminals attacking police and being shot in self defence.
Sounds like his friend was trying to do whats right. This is the friend in question:



He's already raised over 50k for the family as well.
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post 1618517161 10-05-2020, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Jhalf
How is this stroking the flames of racism? White people are wrongfully shot all the time.
How many threads have you made about them
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Originally Posted By meep316
If this went down like OP described, then sad for that guy and hopefully the officers who acted improperly will be brought to justice, as they almost always are when they kill someone unjustifiably.

That said, this incident is not indicative of a systemic issue and BLM’s entire narrative is easily disproved and exposed as complete horsechit:










Game over. Oh, by the way, when it comes to non police related interracial homicide:





^keep in mind whites are 5x the population of blacks. So the fact that there are twice as many black on white murders as white on black, means that blacks are murdering whites at 10 times the rate per capita than whites murder blacks.

And that only accounts for single victim/single offender homicides. As you can see in the following twitter account which tracks this stuff, a lot of black on white murders happen with multiple killers killing one or more victims. Have fun scrolling this:




Last month alone, over the course of a 16 day period there were 18 black on white murders. Do you recognize ANY of these names or faces? Probably fukking not:



Can someone show that to ******* retard illiterate Lebron, and ask him who's hunting who?
This data is all a result of a system that unfairly prosecutes and often persecutes blacks. It isnt always racial, sometimes its socioeconomic, targeting the poor. Of course there will be higher crime rates for black people when they get zero sympathy from police. I know two black brothers who were pulled over for suspected dui, they were told to exit the vehicle, one of the cops just didnt like how one was answering questions and the officer speaking to him grabbed him and spun him around and slammed him against the vehicle. His brother said hey and put out his arm and walked forward and the cop talking to him tackled him to the ground. They were both charged with resisting arrest. This is just one example of how people can be treated differently. People strongly oppose bail reform but they dont understand how it unfairly affects people who cannot afford bail and are either overcharged or even incorrectly charged. Sometimes guys sit in jail for months when most people would have gotten out and they are then presented with two options, plead guilty (and become a statistic) and go free instantly or plea not guilty and stay in jail longer. Also you can probably guess how people with money fare in trials and pretrial negotiations even grand jury hearings. If you think the legal system is fair racially you havent exposed yourself to enough facts just surface level ****.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
How many threads have you made about them
Absolutely 0. I haven't made a thread in ages.

What the **** does that have to do with anything? I haven't made any threads about winterizing your freshwater boats either. Doesn't mean thats not important.

I'm so sorry, I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to make this thread because more white people are wrongfully shot.

Edit: The fact that you think having (what is so far a completely open) dialog about this shooting is divisive or racist is pretty sad man.
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Originally Posted By Jhalf
Absolutely 0. I haven't made a thread in ages.

What the **** does that have to do with anything? I haven't made any threads about winterizing your freshwater boats either. Doesn't mean thats not important.

I'm so sorry, I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to make this thread because more white people are wrongfully shot.
Like I said, stoking the flames. Sad.
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Seems like a tragedy with a good dude, but since every single other case like this has turned out to be bullchit, I'll wait on the bodycam footage.
Originally Posted By ByAssociation
This data is all a result of a system that unfairly prosecutes and often persecutes blacks. It isnt always racial, sometimes its socioeconomic, targeting the poor. Of course there will be higher crime rates for black people when they get zero sympathy from police. I know two black brothers who were pulled over for suspected dui, they were told to exit the vehicle, one of the cops just didnt like how one was answering questions and the officer speaking to him grabbed him and spun him around and slammed him against the vehicle. His brother said hey and put out his arm and walked forward and the cop talking to him tackled him to the ground. They were both charged with resisting arrest. This is just one example of how people can be treated differently. People strongly oppose bail reform but they dont understand how it unfairly affects people who cannot afford bail and are either overcharged or even incorrectly charged. Sometimes guys sit in jail for months when most people would have gotten out and they are then presented with two options, plead guilty (and become a statistic) and go free instantly or plea not guilty and stay in jail longer. Also you can probably guess how people with money fare in trials and pretrial negotiations even grand jury hearings. If you think the legal system is fair racially you havent exposed yourself to enough facts just surface level ****.
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Originally Posted By Jhalf
Sounds like his friend was trying to do whats right. This is the friend in question:



He's already raised over 50k for the family as well.
It should be obvious to anyone with any idea of the damage caused by these protests over the last months that further stoking this twisted political agenda is not "what's right"

How many people are going to die, or have their livelihoods destroyed as a result of this sort of idiocy

raising money for the family, mourning his friend, even attacking the policeman responsible is absolutely fine and much of it very laudible. But that's not all that he was doing.
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation
This data is all a result of a system that unfairly prosecutes and often persecutes blacks. It isnt always racial, sometimes its socioeconomic, targeting the poor. Of course there will be higher crime rates for black people when they get zero sympathy from police. I know two black brothers who were pulled over for suspected dui, they were told to exit the vehicle, one of the cops just didnt like how one was answering questions and the officer speaking to him grabbed him and spun him around and slammed him against the vehicle. His brother said hey and put out his arm and walked forward and the cop talking to him tackled him to the ground. They were both charged with resisting arrest. This is just one example of how people can be treated differently. People strongly oppose bail reform but they dont understand how it unfairly affects people who cannot afford bail and are either overcharged or even incorrectly charged. Sometimes guys sit in jail for months when most people would have gotten out and they are then presented with two options, plead guilty (and become a statistic) and go free instantly or plea not guilty and stay in jail longer. Also you can probably guess how people with money fare in trials and pretrial negotiations even grand jury hearings. If you think the legal system is fair racially you havent exposed yourself to enough facts just surface level ****.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
It should be obvious to anyone with any idea of the damage caused by these protests over the last months that further stoking this twisted political agenda is not "what's right"

How many people are going to die, or have their livelihoods destroyed as a result of this sort of idiocy

raising money for the family, mourning his friend, even attacking the policeman responsible is absolutely fine and much of it very laudible. But that's not all that he was doing.
He did say in a video today not to riot or cause any trouble, but I agree. His instagram post did have some unnecessary and unhelpful undertones.
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Yea he was just a good samaritan like the other guy was just a jogger. Or like the chick that was sleeping in her bed and they did a no knock warrant.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
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Originally Posted By rikugunchusa
cope
What he posted was the definition of cope. Essentially -

"Its whitey's fault that the black crime rates are so high."
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Strong race bait thread by one of our resident racist
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Originally Posted By Bigdumogre
Strong race bait thread by one of our resident racist
This is not a race bait thread.
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Originally Posted By Jhalf
This is not a race bait thread.
All the images and links you posted all have to do with him getting killed due to racism and being black.

Says this isent a race bait thread

I stand by what I said and your post history
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
wtf @ a good friend just being killed and the first thing you do is make a public inflammatory race-based accusation with no evidence

that's pretty *****ed

sounds like a ****ed situation general though. Nothing like the usual cases of criminals attacking police and being shot in self defence.
Well as many have already said we will know more when we know more.

That said (native Texan) presuming racism in a small East Texas town I would say you have better than even odds of being right.

So I'm not sure that his friend meant it as "cops = racists" when he could have meant it as "small town East Texas = higher prevalence of racism".

Seems like he was a good man and that this was a tragic loss.
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More information came out. Apparently he was armed with a knife. When officers arrived at the scene he told them " Back off you dirty pigs." Ignoring the ignorant man the officers went to break up the fight, that's when the man took out his knife and the officers shot. The guy was clearly crazy, most likely on hardcore drugs.
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he was a logical kind man with a good heart who happened to be black. blm doesn't give a fuk about him. RIP
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Originally Posted By Bigdumogre
All the images and links you posted all have to do with him getting killed due to racism and being black.

Says this isent a race bait thread

I stand by what I said and your post history
My post history?

I posted article text from a yahoo news article, an instragram post from his best friend, and an anti-blm post from his ******** history. Unfortunately I can't really find any news articles about it that don't involve his race.

I didn't personally bring up the color of his skin once (I don't think, honestly wasn't paying super close attention to it).
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That this isn't front page news yet on CNN goes to show you that they did their research and probably won't be reporting on someone who wasn't full blown BLM, even though this could end up being one of the more tragic incidents. Sure seems like it. But I guess we'll have to wait.
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I don’t understand how this is automatically racist unless of course we assume all white on black crime is racist.
LOL @ people who follow politics
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Originally Posted By II
That this isn't front page news yet on CNN goes to show you that they did their research and probably won't be reporting on someone who wasn't full blown BLM, even though this could end up being one of the more tragic incidents. Sure seems like it. But I guess we'll have to wait.
I'm curious as to why this isn't blazed all over the media too.
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Originally Posted By Miked1978
I don’t understand how this is automatically racist unless of course we assume all white on black crime is racist.
Hint: Its not automatically racist.
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