I’m not sure what it’s like in the USA but I think it’s down to licensing.

I enjoy the nfl and am a packers fan but the time difference and the availability to watch it here in the uk limits my ability to invest into it. If I want to watch it I either have to pay high rates or stream it and even then it’s likely at awkward times.

Also you tend to like what you grew up with. I think if your a sports enthusiast given the chance you can be a fan of any sport

Nearly the rest of the world values soccer as the #1 sport except for America. We're the exceptionalists who only value what we've innovated. Soccers not even close to #1 here. It's not even close to top 3

The top 3 sports in America were created in America. Even hockey, which is irrelevant in my state/region, was created in North America as part of your top 4 argument

Those folks you listed would be playing for Lazio in Serie A at best.
Just beacuse someone is top tier in one sport doesn't mean he would be top tier in other sports (especially in sports that ain't even similar).

If our country didn't invent better sports to compete in, all of our top athletes would be mogging you kunts in soccer. SRS

India and China don't have soccer as their most popular sport and that's like a third of the planet.

We don't "only value" sports invented here as proven by the millions of people who watch sports not invented here.

Canada isn't part of the US boyo.

Yeah I was trying to get english premier league when I had cable and was willing to watch at eh odd times but they wouldn't give me the fukin channel

You need to paint a lot more color books before you realize what kind of next level bs you just said.

India and China are two nations, their population sizes are irrelevant to the argument

And ya, some people like soccer in America. It's basically a fringe sport . But you're in major denial if you think it comes close in popularity to the othersBoyo, if soccer meant anything here I would have kept playing it. I quit soccer in high school to play baseball even though I was a beast at soccer. The thing is no one cares in America if you're a beast at soccer lol It's irrelevant

Football's not like it used to be.

To succeed in soccer you have to be a beast before age of 10, by highschool you would be playing in top clubs in Europe. Dribbling your average fat joe from hs doesn't make you a beast.

By age 10, I was playing with kids 2 grades above me srs. So I guess that backs up your point in Europe I would have been going to the next level by high school

Nope, sorry boyo, population is very relevant. A country of 3 million doesn't have as much weight as one that's over a billion. Add in Canada, US, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand just off the top of my head and that might be half the people on the planet represented.

Wtf are you even talking about at this point

Whatever youre saying has NOTHING to do with the relevancy of soccer in America

Lol no
Go watch some documentaries about best players, maybe it will enlighten you

I'm fairly confident I could have played soccer professionally srs. Too bad it's irrelevant here and there's relatively no infrastructure dedicated to developing world class soccer players

holy fuk is this real? LMFAOOOOOO !!

I'm sorry but that's no excuse. You see, I'm from Croatia and we ended 2nd in the last World Cup. We have many players playing in top clubs all over Europe. How much infrastructure does a country with 4 million people have to create such world class players? I'll help you, almost none compared to other countries.

It's pure talent and lots and lots of hard work just to get recognized and get a small oportunity to show yourself in some big club. And that's just the begining.

Soccer not being as popular here has nothing to do with closed-mindedness. Half the people in the world live in a country where it's not the most popular sport. "Ignorance" isn't preventing us all from being obsessed with flopball.

Dunno why I get sucked into these retarded arguments srs.

Soccer is too sophisticated for Americans.

Americans are - on the whole - pretty simple-minded creatures and are more interested in violence and instant gratification than a game of strategy and tactics.

This is why - most - Amerians should never attempt to watch snooker and probably suck at chess.

The competition is higher in Croatia, meaning better players will naturally develop because all of the top talent in the country is trying to succeed in the same one sport. Also you have easier access to top clubs in Europe. How many Americans are recruited by top clubs in Europe? Probably zero

If you have athletic ability, you're pushed towards mainstream sports here

Lmfao that stat from the NFL is savage. Only 11 minutes of action

Imaging having that garbage as you national sport, and these mericans dare to call real football boring, LMFAO

I said that the top 3 sports in America were invented in America (fact), and that's because of American exceptionalism (opinion). If you don't agree with why I said those are the top 3 sports in America, which is again a fact, come up with a better explanation or plz stfu

you are joking right?

Not entirely. I know you guys like basketball too

If they're the most popular it's because people find them the most entertaining. Nobody spending hundreds+ of hours of their life watching something just because it was invented there.

Alright well that's like your uninformed opinion with zero historical context, right? So it's not really more accurate than mine is it?

You're basically looking at things from a 2021 lens without even considering how things came to be

[QUOTE=Sophus post_id=1630164463]Not entirely. I know you guys like basketball too
[imghttps://i.imgur.com/Ll1YQdF.png[/img][/QUOTE]go read again what I bolded

I guess hyperbole doesn't translate well. You're like the Croatian version of WHChampion. You're both nitpicking my word choice while ignoring the main point

My main point to you is that soccer is a huge deal in Croatia so your country naturally develops higher talent per capita and even totally than the U.S. would in this sport, because soccer is the opposite of a huge deal in US. Since soccer is not a big deal in the US, it barely develops any talent it may have in this particular sport. Having talent in soccer doesn't lead to much if any opportunity here

And you are again being delusional..
I just gave you an example of my country with underdeveloped infrastructure compared to idk France or Spain to prove that it's mostly about individuals and not infrastrcture.
Idk what you meant by developing talent. You are either born with it or not. Coaches can only sharpen it. Many kids want to play soccer profesionally, but only few succeed because others are simply not talented for it. And there is no such a thing as college soccer or school league or w/e. It's all about scouting. From young age if you are showing talent, you get scouted and transfered to bigger clubs. As I said, if you are not playing in bigger club by 18, you're done in 99% cases.
Anyone that wanted to play soccer and had required talent would be scouted no matter what. The reason this is rare in US is because your soccer is a joke compared to Europe or Latin America. Some nations are simply more talented for some sports.

And yeah, your point is somewhat true. Kids usually gravitate to popular sports. Soccer here and "football" in US. But going back to what you said (or that other ****) that if big US athlete stars played soccer instead of "football", hockey or w/e they would be at the top? If you think that Kobe, Jordan, Phelps or any other would succeed in soccer if they picked it at young age, then I'm sorry but you are fuking retarded.

Also we have been quite successful in many sports, but I doubt your narrow mind has ever heard of tennis, handball, waterpolo, alpine skiing and so on since you only care about 3 sports?

sry for tldr but I don't wanna argue anymore about soccer with people who know nothing about soccer

this thread again lol