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Originally Posted By homers54321⏩
brb 5g, brb cell phones, brb wifi, brb microwaves, brb fast food and processed foods in general. but let me worry about a vaccine lol
But you can avoid those things if you want to, or IOW you can choose to stop being exposed to them.
Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
Exemption from liability can only be given under "emergency use authorization'

Emergency use authorization can only be given when there is no alternative medicine or procedure available.

Ivermectin works both at a prophylactic stage as well as a treatment option at infection, at a dose of 0.2g per Kg of bodyweight.

Ivermectin which was readily available and regularly prescribed, has been black-balled. My family doctor has received specific instructions that he is not allowed to prescribe it.

It has been around for 50 years, has been administered over 3.7 billion doses, and at proper dosage has no side effects or adverse reactions. Irs creators won a Nobel Peace prize. Suddenly, as of covid, it is not safe for use.

Nothing to see here.

This is such a big deal and the media is *crickets*. I mean c'mon, there was testimony given to congress and it should be part of the congressional record. That, plus studies and usage in multiple countries.
Originally Posted By x-trainer
Let's just hope that those that decided to get it are healthy in the future, no matter what your political or ideological stance is on this topic. I read the link twice and the question is, what will a vaccinated person physically experience if.... the protein travels elsewhere.
Of course that's the reasonable response; to hope that people who have had the vaccine are not injured by it.

IDK what the person will experience, but there have been plenty of disturbing issues for people exposed to the spike protein via the virus itself.

The difference is that your body can clear the virus which should mean that the spike protein is no longer circulating actively in your body.At least there is some hope of that, though I recall reading of viruses that become dormant and "hide out" in tissues.

Unless my reading comprehension is very poor the vaccine causes your own cells to produce the spike protein indefinitely. If there is an off switch for that process it has been kept very hush hush. To me this means that the time period for potential spike protein related damage or ADE is until you die.

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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
why can't people at least wait until there's an outcome from clinical trials and then make a more informed decision?
They can? But you wouldn't believe that from our government and media.
Originally Posted By x-trainer
Many docs on this forum have argued that there have been so many subjects because of the pandemic, that enough information is available to make a wise decision.
Studies with tens of thousands of people all around the world.
But what was time? The size of the trial does not do a damn thing regarding data on long term effects of the vaccine.

- The S1 protein can cross the blood brain barrier. Will that increase dementia/Alzheimer's if other negative actors are able to "tag along"?

- From the link the S1 protein appears to concentrate in the ovaries. Will that mean lower reproductive rates? Increased birth defects?

- The S1 protein impairs endothelial function. That is the thin lining layer of cells that act as a barrier in your blood vessels and in your gut. Will that mean increased heart disease? Increased IBS or Crohn's?

^^^
This is some pretty serious stuff that you don't want to f*ck up.

But don't worry. It's perfectly safe.

Too many people are unable to deal with shades of gray.

It may be that vaccination is beneficial [at least in the short term] for those who are highly likely to be very ill/die and for the overall population [so-called herd immunity], while at the same time vaccination ispotentiallya risk for the long term health of individuals.
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Imagine if the vaccine had never been created. About what would we create hundreds of threads on a bodybuilding site?

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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
No, fuk them in the ass.

These same people are the ones that empowered the governments to destroy society and our freedom.

FUK THEM
I know this is misc, but c'mon.

Plenty of good people who believe what they are told in the news, or were compelled by their employer/government, or really just want to put the entire thing behind them have gotten the vaccine.

The virus initially seemed very scary and we didn't have much reliable information with news being suppressed, sensationalized, or straight spun to fit the chosen narrative.

I don't wish poor health on anyone.
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Just lol if you donโ€™t think aliens are involved
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
No, fuk them in the ass.

These same people are the ones that empowered the governments to destroy society and our freedom.

FUK THEM
yea fuark the sheeple. my parents both went out and got the vaccine. I hope they die to because they lynched my pnus. my dad is a beta male cuck provider that said he did it because it reduces utis. he deserves to suffer.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Isn't the point of the immune response to eliminate the spike proteins? Regardless of if they have gone through the muscle & in to the blood stream & circulated?
I believe what is happening is the immune system is eliminating the spike proteins that now are attached to the organ cells via injection, and when the spike protein goes, so do the organ cells...
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
I believe what is happening is the immune system is eliminating the spike proteins that now are attached to the organ cells via injection, and when the spike protein goes, so do the organ cells...
Imagine being a perfectly healthy young person and willingly injecting yourself with an experimental vaccine for something you literally have a zero chance of dying from and a 90%+ chance of not even knowing you had the virus.

Even if th vaccine is perfectly safe and does what muh science says it's going to do, the risk/reward still doesn't add up
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Let's just hope that those that decided to get it are healthy in the future, no matter what your political or ideological stance is on this topic. I read the link twice and the question is, what will a vaccinated person physically experience if.... the protein travels elsewhere.
Originally Posted By ymer⏩
No, fuk them in the ass.

These same people are the ones that empowered the governments to destroy society and our freedom.

FUK THEM
I can't imagine anyone who doesn't have some loved ones who have been vaccinated. I have plenty, in the case of my elderly parents, who covid is in-theory a potential threat, I didn't argue much against them taking it, either. I've actually researched and learned quite a bit more since then, though... were that conversation to happen today, I would probably strongly urge them to not get it, stock up on a little ivermectin and just take their chances.

In any event, I think these vaccines are more likely than not some level of garbage. In some way ineffective, dangerous in the short and/or long term or like all the other failed attempts to make coronavirus vaccines. I can't see why when we had plenty of time to go at it, all we were left with were sick or dead animal trials, but now suddenly with something like a single year, now they were able to finally get things right and fix all the problems.

Sure, throwing money at problems can help grease the wheels, but somewhere I linked it, it's been decades of attempts and nothing but mass failure. Nothing has given me one lick of hope that this go-around they got it right. If anything, the evil companies behind these vaccines are even less transparent now than they were in the past.

I do hope and pray if there are side effects or problems that they are ones people can overcome and I do not with harm on anyone, even the retards in this thread demanding everyone must be jabbed and getting angry about it.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
I believe what is happening is the immune system is eliminating the spike proteins that now are attached to the organ cells via injection, and when the spike protein goes, so do the organ cells...
Assuming B & T cells are attacking the host cells of spike proteins (organs in this example) after receiving the vaccine, wouldn't that mean people getting full blood counts would have increased amount of white blood cells continuously, due to damaged organs ripe for infection & inflammation?

I've had a full blood count post both vaccine doses. It was fine.

Was this presumably because the spike proteins did not travel past the point of intramuscular injection & thus, worked?

Also could it be this process you've described is possibly actually the process in which "clots" are made in some vaccines, in some people, rather than a given for all vaccine recipients?
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
I know this is misc, but c'mon.

Plenty of good people who believe what they are told in the news, or were compelled by their employer/government, or really just want to put the entire thing behind them have gotten the vaccine.

The virus initially seemed very scary and we didn't have much reliable information with news being suppressed, sensationalized, or straight spun to fit the chosen narrative.

I don't wish poor health on anyone.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Assuming B & T cells are attacking the host cells of spike proteins (organs in this example) after receiving the vaccine, wouldn't that mean people getting full blood counts would have increased amount of white blood cells continuously, due to damaged organs ripe for infection & inflammation?

I've had a full blood count post both vaccine doses. It was fine.

Was this presumably because the spike proteins did not travel past the point of intramuscular injection & thus, worked?

Also could it be this process you've described is possibly actually the process in which "clots" are made in some vaccines, in some people, rather than a given for all vaccine recipients?
You are being entirely too practical. Try again.
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
No, fuk them in the ass.

These same people are the ones that empowered the governments to destroy society and our freedom.

FUK THEM
Nah, I will not wish poor health on anyone.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I'd wager its quite the opposite. The government isn't giving out free vaccines because they care about us. They're giving us free vaccines because the pandemic is hurting their bottom line (profits). Its affecting their ability to use us to make money because consumerism is still down significantly.

oh, and for those that still think there are nano-machines in the vaccine used to track us..... Why would they waste nanoparticles on a vaccine that many will refuse to get, when they can simply track us through our phones which virtually every man woman and child already has?
Obviously if they could have done mind control with our phones, they would have by now.

Internalized nanobots are the next logical progression

It's amazing to me that people are bringing other unhealthy things as an argument for why to take the vaccine.

It's also amazing to me that people are trying to discredit others' perfectly valid concern for a rushed vaccine simply because they aren't epidemiologists or published researchers.

Lastly, it's astounding any of you wish poor health on anyone else for the sake of being right.

c'mon misc.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Assuming B & T cells are attacking the host cells of spike proteins (organs in this example) after receiving the vaccine, wouldn't that mean people getting full blood counts would have increased amount of white blood cells continuously, due to damaged organs ripe for infection & inflammation?

I've had a full blood count post both vaccine doses. It was fine.

Was this presumably because the spike proteins did not travel past the point of intramuscular injection & thus, worked?

Also could it be this process you've described is possibly actually the process in which "clots" are made in some vaccines, in some people, rather than a given for all vaccine recipients?
I am not knowledgeable on this, but I have read that when administering the vaccine, they are supposed to draw back slightly on the needle to see if any blood comes up before they inject. Not sure if that is correct of if that is being done, but if so, that could be the difference as to why some people are suffering no adverse reactions to the vax and why some are.

My mother in law got vaxxed (57) and aside from a little fatigue for about 24 hrs, no issues. My sisters boss (29, great health) has been at the cardiologist for non-stop tests for the last 5 weeks after vax due to severe arrhythmia beginning 3 hours after vax.
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So am I gonna die from this Vax or what? Can someone cliff this schit? Should just go get a 50 piece McNugget and get rinsed
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
You are being entirely too practical. Try again.
Lmfao. Not gonna lie, I was peer pressured in to being vacc'd so I was getting full blood counts left and right.
Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
I am not knowledgeable on this, but I have read that when administering the vaccine, they are supposed to draw back slightly on the needle to see if any blood comes up before they inject. Not sure if that is correct of if that is being done, but if so, that could be the difference as to why some people are suffering no adverse reactions to the vax and why some are.

My mother in law got vaxxed (57) and aside from a little fatigue for about 24 hrs, no issues. My sisters boss (29, great health) has been at the cardiologist for non-stop tests for the last 5 weeks after vax due to severe arrhythmia beginning 3 hours after vax.
Can any docs confirm? Is there supposed to be blood coming out in to the syringe in an intramuscular injection? Is what op described the correct administration method of a/the vaccine?

Sorry to hear about your sisters troubles. Had a pretty rough go of it after my doses as well, but nothing in regards to organs fuking up. Hope she gets better brah.
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
It makes me feel fine considering that Iโ€™m fine.
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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩
All I know is after both my jabs (got my second one yesterday) I got worse side effects than Iโ€™d have had with Covid itself since Iโ€™m under 50 and not obese. I only got it because Iโ€™m sure vaccine passports will be a thing here in the UK because British people are generally oblivious to the consequences of such measures.
you got it because vaccine passports are going to be introduced in the future? why didn't you wait till you were actually in the future.
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Whats fuked is if most of the people who got the vaccines are the scientists and engineers etc and they kick the bucket then the world is fukked because the majority of antivax people are fukin retards unfortunately. Would halt progress significantly
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
I am not knowledgeable on this, but I have read that when administering the vaccine, they are supposed todraw back slightly on the needle to see if any blood comes up before they inject.Not sure if that is correct of if that is being done, but if so, that could be the difference as to why some people are suffering no adverse reactions to the vax and why some are.
This is a common practice (Aspirating). It's not done specifically for a COVID shot. This is done to make sure that the injection isn't going directly into blood vessel.
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Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
This is a common practice (Aspirating). It's not done specifically for a COVID shot. This is done to make sure that the injection isn't going directly into blood vessel.
Isn't that what intravenous injections are supposed to do? I'm assuming this is impossible for an intramuscular covid shot?
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Originally Posted By DontbeSwak⏩
Whats fuked is if most of the people who got the vaccines are the scientists and engineers etc and they kick the bucket then the world is fukked because the majority of antivax people are fukin retards unfortunately. Would halt progress significantly
What was it, something like barely 1/2 of the CDC has been vaccinated right now?
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
What was it, something like barely 1/2 of the CDC has been vaccinated right now?
It was around 60% at the time, but keep in mind that is for the entire organization and so encompasses all job positions and skill levels.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Unless my reading comprehension is very poor the vaccine causes your own cells to produce the spike proteinindefinitely. If there is an off switch for that process it has been kept very hush hush. To me this means that the time period for potential spike protein related damage or ADE is until you die.
You do not produce the spike protein indefinitely. The lipid nanoparticles (LNP) in the vaccine are the vehicles for the mRNA. The LNPs enter your cell and release the mRNA, which the cell reads and destroys in the process of producing the spike protein. The off switch is when you've exhausted the supply of LNPs from the vaccine. At that point, there are no more particles carrying the mRNA left and so production stops.
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
I am not knowledgeable on this, but I have read that when administering the vaccine, they are supposed to draw back slightly on the needle to see if any blood comes up before they inject. Not sure if that is correct of if that is being done, but if so, that could be the difference as to why some people are suffering no adverse reactions to the vax and why some are.

My mother in law got vaxxed (57) and aside from a little fatigue for about 24 hrs, no issues. My sisters boss (29, great health) has been at the cardiologist for non-stop tests for the last 5 weeks after vax due to severe arrhythmia beginning 3 hours after vax.
aspirating is not recommended anymore and 100% not used in administering any COVID-19 vaccines. i've given 100s of them as a pharmacist. no magnetic patients yet either lmfao
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