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post 1642039473 07-02-2021, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By SmillironS
Slaughter aside for the moment I gotta ask if anybody here knows the difference between a “meat factory” and actual ranching? The Avenue taken to justify getting rid of cattle production is the effects on the environment/global warming.

Well let’s address global warming first, if you think cattle in the US are responsible for the half a degree rise in global temps over the last century and not the practices in countries like China and India I have a bridge to sell you. Now on to the environment.

I’m going to open with saying “meat factories” or as I know them, feed lots, are a disgusting practice and should be outlawed. That said cattle ran free range are actually good for they’re ecosystem as they prevent over growth and their feces provide nourishment for smaller animals. I run one cow per 40 acres even though I could probably push it to 1 cow per 20 acres but I don’t for the good of the land as well as the good of the animal. My cattle drink almost exclusively live water from creeks and streams and live as stress free of a life as possible as stress on a cow is bad for their health which leads to a worse product overall.

The point I’m making is that it’s glaringly obvious that most people, especially the alpaca fuking commie from Peru, know fuk all about the cattle industry. I can also assure you the “grass fed” beef you buy in a store is anything but that, it’s just a huge marketing scam.

Truth be told feed lots will be outlawed soon I believe and if traditional cattle ranching is outlawed as well the environmental effects will be terrible not to mention the amount of people left without a livelihood and the millions of cattle that will become worthless over night and be left to Mother Nature, who I assure you is far more cruel than man.

It baffles me how people who know nothing about meat production can be so sure of themselves when they say it should all be shut down. If you want a meat industry to go after for cruelty look into the full industrialized pork industry, there’s no such thing as free range pigs anymore thanks to corporate greed.

It wouldn’t kill people to admit maybe they don’t know everything about everything all the time and actually ask somebody that does instead of wanting to kill off an industry in favor of a very unproven new product.

/rant
Free range cattle is also unsustainable, brb shutting down your entire argument with a single image:



It's just unsustainable with the current demand, if meat consumption was a fraction of what it currently is you would have a point, but with the current meat over consumption it's just impossible to sustain it with free range pasturing.

You saying cattle ranching is good for the ecosystem is a blatant lie, do you know how many thousands of acres of forest and jungles are decimated every year to make room for cattle ranching?







/ethered like the cuck you are, I'm sorry that you dedicated your entire life to destroying the planet you piece of chit. Maybe it's time change careers
post 1642039663 07-02-2021, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000
Or you can stop being a consoomer and learn to grow your own food like a real man. No matter how much any government tries they cant ever stop You from learning how to grow your own crops. 90% of the food I eat is grown by myself, organic fresh and nutritious.
Oh they can.

It may take a while but they definitely can.

I wouldn't be surprised if they found out ways to kill off natty plants with things like diseases.
etc.

You see they already have seeds with the suicide gene so they only produce one time and die off.

This makes people rely on buying their seeds from them as opposed to the plants flowering like in nature.

What makes you think they can't or won't figure out a way to kill off the competition?
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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post 1642039963 07-02-2021, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
Oh they can.

It may take a while but they definitely can.

I wouldn't be surprised if they found out ways to kill off natty plants with things like diseases.
etc.

You see they already have seeds with the suicide gene so they only produce one time and die off.

This makes people rely on buying their seeds from them as opposed to the plants flowering like in nature.

What makes you think they can't or won't figure out a way to kill off the competition?
They already do, monocrop seeds like the ones from monsanto behave like that , making you perpetually dependent on their seeds and their "technological packages" aka a chit ton of their pesticides... With organic farming you don't need any of that crap. And unless they completely erradicate organic produce it's going to be impossible to control that.

They would have to completely erradicate the dozens of species of native corn for example, to make you dependant on their gmo frankestein maize. And that's just impossible at the time, unless they managed to spray pesticides across the entire planet
post 1642040163 07-02-2021, 10:40 AM
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post 1642040173 07-02-2021, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Procta
This just means more real meat for me
this

also cheaper real meat since less demand
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post 1642040243 07-02-2021, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted By UknowWho11
this

also cheaper real meat since less demand
On the contrary, real meat would become a "luxury" product
post 1642040683 07-02-2021, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000
unless they managed to spray pesticides across the entire planet
LMAO

Or if they found a more efficient means of delivery, which in all likelihood would be the plan.

BRB could be as easy as say making bees carry the disease, or who knows how.

Point being that if you were told in 1990 that 20 years later there'd be fruits with no seeds you probably wouldn't have believed it.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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post 1642040833 07-02-2021, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
LMAO

Or if they found a more efficient means of delivery, which in all likelihood would be the plan.

BRB could be as easy as say making bees carry the disease, or who knows how.

Point being that if you were told in 1990 that 20 years later there'd be fruits with no seeds you probably wouldn't have believed it.
Hopefully we will never get to that point, that would be scary as phuck
post 1642040943 07-02-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By DivineMasculine
What do they use to make it?
Roaches
post 1642040953 07-02-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000
Free range cattle is also unsustainable, brb shutting down your entire argument with a single image:



It's just unsustainable with the current demand, if meat consumption was a fraction of what it currently is you would have a point, but with the current meat over consumption it's just impossible to sustain it with free range pasturing.

You saying cattle ranching is good for the ecosystem is a blatant lie, do you know how many thousands of acres of forest and jungles are decimated every year to make room for cattle ranching?







/ethered like the cuck you are, I'm sorry that you dedicated your entire life to destroying the planet you piece of chit. Maybe it's time change careers
You’re a prime example of what I say when somebody is convinced they know everything about a subject and know nothing. Anybody clearing trees to make room for cattle is a certified retard, trees are paramount to healthy cattle. There’s an old saying to the effect of never running cattle where trees don’t grow. I challenge you to find a healthier ecosystem than my ranch. I’ve posted lots of pics in several threads, go give it a look and get back to me. You’re a militant leftist with no regards for any outlook but your own which wouldn’t be so bad if you had the foggiest notion of why you hold the positions you do, but you don’t just another bot that regurgitates talking point given to him then throws a fit when anybody presents evidence to the contrary.

Edit: sweet video *******, it’s obvious you never even read my post at all. If you had you’d know we agree on feedlots being terrible and being outlawed. FFS you don’t even know the difference between that crap and what I do and you’re trying to lecture me.
Originally Posted By wincel
More but they have more people, and that doesn't change the fact that methane is a potent greenhouse gas.

For per capita emissions, a reduction in livestock farming would be helpful. Since this probably hurts your bottom line, you're opposed. No surprise there.
On the contrary my bottom line is helped by getting rid of feedlots, I do ranch to table now. All middle men are cut out and the beef from my ranch is sent directly to the consumer. This allows my overhead to drop substantially as well as under cut the super markets in price. Adapting to the situation is the name of the game if you’re self employed.
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Originally Posted By wincel
legit

looks good
post 1642041343 07-02-2021, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000
Hopefully we will never get to that point, that would be scary as phuck
If they're coming for everything else what makes you think they would get to that point and just stop?

Are they just going to spontaneously grow a conscience?
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
If they're coming for everything else what makes you think they would get to that point and just stop?

Are they just going to spontaneously grow a conscience?
He’s a communist, you’re talking with a communist about growing a conscience.
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Originally Posted By SmillironS
It wouldn’t kill people to admit maybe they don’t know everything about everything all the time and actually ask somebody that does instead of wanting to kill off an industry in favor of a very unproven new product.

/rant
This synthesized meat is in fact proven to work, the challenge comes in making it a competitive alternative to traditional meat. Since it's still in its infancy i'd give it time and see how it develops over the coming decades.

The meat industry as a whole isn't going anywhere anytime soon though, it will very much be a gradual shift. I firmly believe that in western countries where this synthesized meat becomes viable there will slowly be an ethical societal shift, eventually reaching a point where traditional meat will become a niche product and that animal slaughter will one day become outlawed. Similar to Japanese whaling where the world shuns such activities, and young japanese mostly refrain from consuming it.
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If the meat is the same, I’ve got no issue with this. I don’t get any satisfaction out of killing things, or having others do it for me. The problem is, it probably won’t be the same.
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Originally Posted By Adam16121
If the meat is the same, I’ve got no issue with this. I don’t get any satisfaction out of killing things, or having others do it for me. The problem is, it probably won’t be the same.
They can’t even get heartburn meds right that won’t cause cancer but they expect the public to believe artificial meat will be ok.
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Cows are actually nice and friendly so I'm for cows being alive.
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