https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisad...h=43eb73256cc2


More Americans have died from Covid-19 so far in 2021 than in 2020, a sobering milestone after the year began with hopes that the United States was set to turn the corner on the pandemic with the rollout of vaccines -- and the death count is still rising steadily at a pace of over 2,000 a day.





And that was the first week in October.

almost all positive cases are in unvaccinated people.
almost all people hospitalized due to covid are unvaccinated.
almost all positive cases in icu due to covid are unvaccinated.
almost all deaths due to covid are unvaccinated people.

someone prove me wrong.

No problem. Social media is a poor source of information.

Here's a direct link to Vanden Bossche's manifesto:
https://37b32f5a-6ed9-4d6d-b3e1-5ec6...adec9cd1dc.pdf

"So, there is not one second left for gears to be switched and to replace the current killer vaccines by life-saving vaccines"

The vaccines have been the most rushed and oversold failure in medical history .....the efficacy waning after 2 -3 months is an utter shambles and in many highly vaxxed countries things are worse than they were last year....cosmic joke

Several meta analyses:

https://journals.library.ualberta.ca...cle/view/31457


https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-148845/v1

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....26.21250420v1

https://link.springer.com/article/10...40-021-00245-z

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...OKwODbXD5aVgpz


While not an exhaustive list, the results are definitely not conclusive.

It's closer to 6-7 months, 8 in some studies.

1.) ok, so where is the part where he says this will be the end of our species?


2.) go back and read my post on the last page. The article you posted was from March and two key elements of their argument(vaccines are just as good if not better than natural infection at providing immunity and vaccines drastically reduce spread) they were blatantly wrong about while Geert was correct about. Not saying his theory is true, but he has been more accurate in his assessment than the resources you’re using to dispute his assertions

Is that averaging over states? Some areas have ~50% vaccination rates.

i bet most of those death were not even from covid
its already been proof that they were writing cause of death as covid when it wasnt

the waning starts after 2-3 then steadily declines even more

LOL the new antivirals were passed with pretty much one study by the maker , ivermectin has had decades of safe use and is still waiting....for ever more trials LOL

if the vaccines worked we we would be at herd immunity................they don;t and we are not

Well, referring to the current vaccines as "killer vaccines" that have been administered to more than half of the population is fairly suggestive.

Immunity acquired from infection seems to be severity- (viral load) dependent. It's why people get re-infected.

Evidence also suggests vaccines do reduce spread, clearly it's not a complete halt and is antibody level dependent.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2106757

lol how is that vaccine remorse? boosters have been talked about for months. Also, lol that the Gateway Pundit headline lies

People get bogged down in the BS and advocate for a lack of hard evidence the vaccines failed.


Well, we've had the vaccine for a year now and 60% of people have been vaccinated, including basically ALL people in high risk demographics...

And we're still sitting here talking about "winter is coming"

Just lmao. This isn't how vaccines have worked for anything else previously.

Antivaxers: DEATHS FROM COVID ARE GREATLY EXAGERATED!

Also Antivaxers: EVERYONE WHO DIES DIES FROM THE VACCINE

Antibody levels have to wane. It's not just a covid vaccine phenomenon. Waning happens after every infection or vaccination.

Here's an interesting paper that looks specifically at waning under different scenarios and with pfizer vs moderna
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...426v1.full.pdf

50% vaccination rate > 0% vaccination rate

Hopefully this trial will give us much needed information on anti-viral therapies:

https://www.principletrial.org/

For sure!

In which half are most of the deaths occurring?

Now you’re just bobbing and weaving. Natural immunity provides greater protection than vaccination is the vast VAST majority of people. That is true. Vaccines are not effective(or at least not effective for any substantial amount of time) at preventing spread. This is obvious by the current rates and tons of areas that are highly vaccinated yet see huge spikes in cases.

America with a 0% vaccination rate did better than America with a 59% vaccination rate.

moron, of course you can get re infected like any other corona virus ,its what happens when you do. If your antibodies have waned your immune system has to wake up and respond and then produce more antibodies....pretty basic even for you


how many people die of COVID the 2nd time they get it? in the miniscule amount that do

If this were the case wouldn't it be time to stop giving a fook about it and just go back to normal? Anyone who wants a shot has it. The unvaccinated will either die, get natural immunity or just keep living as normal, and that there choice. What's the issue if everyone who has their shots is protected?

Issue is the the vaccine goes from effective to completely ineffective as if you never took it (or worse) between month 5 and 11 after the shot. But in an effort to get everyone vaccinated they delayed telling people this fact. And there are many people who got vaccinated thinking that would be the end who now have the choice to get a booster or essentially become unvaccinated after 11 months. The issue is the vaccine was sold as the end of the virus and its not, the virus goes on. Everyone's options are to take a shot of an MRNA vaccine every 6 months or don't and not many seem happy or accepting of that reality.

But to illustrate your point please provide a link for US hospitalizations and deaths by vaccination status from June until now. Spoiler alert: it doesn't exist. You can find some patchy state data, but the CDC intentionally removed this from their website when vaccinated elderly people started dieing of COVID.

Doesn't exactly the same thing happen with vaccination?

I've said multiple times that individuals have to weight things out for themselves.

If the goal is acquired immunity, there are 2 paths: infection or vaccination. Both have risks that need to be weighed against one another for the individual who's making the decision for their health.

Mandates are terrible. Politicizing a health crisis is terrible.

just get high then you wont care about any of it

This is not true. I got high, turned on the news, and realized I lived in a dystopia, that post COVID-19 America isn't the place a grew up and will never be again. Truth is a choice, gender is choice, math is a choice, and lies are true as long as the state run media tells you they are.

do you actually follow your own posts ...LOL

"Summary
Given past data on multiple SARS-CoV-1 and MERS-CoV vaccine efforts have failed due to ADE in animal models (75, 81), it is reasonable to hypothesize a similar ADE risk for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies and vaccines. ADE risks may be associated with antibody level (which can wane over time after vaccination) and also if the antibodies are derived from prior exposures to other coronaviruses. In addition, ADE with mast cells likely plays a role in MIS-C for infants and possibly older MIS-C and MIS-A patients. While expanded trophism of SARS-CoV-2 represents a possible ADE risk in the subset of COVID-19 patients with disease progression beyond the mild disease stage."

Another source:

"Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) has not been identified as a concern related to SARS-CoV-2 infection or following COVID-19 vaccination.

In fact, a body of evidence has suggested that ADE will not be a concern:

First, most people have been infected with other coronaviruses in their lifetime, and ADE has not been identified as a result of these infections.

Second, in human studies, people previously infected with coronavirus were infected with different types of coronavirus, and they did not experience enhanced disease.

Third, experimental animals vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 did not develop enhanced disease when challenged, or infected, with the virus.
Fourth, when people with COVID-19 received plasma containing SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, they did not experience enhanced disease.

Finally, millions of people have been vaccinated against COVID-19, and some of them have subsequently been infected with SARS-CoV-2, or one of its variants, and none of them have shown evidence of ADE.
For these reasons, ADE is not a concern for SARS-CoV-2 infections or vaccination. Scientists will continue to monitor the SARS-CoV-2 variants; however, it would not be expected that ADE will become an issue with the rise of new variants, as it has not been with the many types of coronaviruses and the existing SARS-CoV-2 variants to date."

https://www.chop.edu/centers-program.../prevent-covid