It's funny, I listened to this podcast yesterday and immediately after listened to Sam Harris...they have completely different interpretations.

Sam Harris and Christakis (his guest) were saying:

- Vaccines are amazing (why do we need boosters every 6 months and why do fully vaccinated populations still get covid outbreaks?)
- Hydroxychloroquine doesn't work at all (many studies showing the exact opposite...it is very helpful with early treatment)
- Vaccines are completely safe...there is a vanishingly small chance of injury. (why have there been more deaths reported in VAERS in 2021 than the last 20 years combined?)

Sam Harris is intellectually honest which is why I listen to him, but I do not understand how he can review the data and reach the above conclusions. If a smart, logical person like Sam Harris can have this view...then what chance does the rest of society have?

I feel like there is a mass psychosis in the world that we will take years to escape from, if not decades.

Sam Harris is totally compromised, you know that right? The guy supported Hillary.

Covid vaccines = bad

Fk you're a disingenuous piece of chit.

Dude, that's the Misc consensus!

That's why I'm asking. You caught something I didn't.

Surely he wouldn't say something so inaccurate.

So I over-simplified it and misspoke, but the point still stands because the piece of the spike protein that your body is instructed to make can harm it in many of the same ways that the actual virus can.

Not really and it's cleared from the body within weeks of vaccination.

Can you imagine the reaction if I similarly misspoke?!

I'll give it a listen but if it's on Rogan it's gonna be some normie sht.

I want to hear him have someone on who questions whether COVID is even a real thing, like I do.

They haven't isolated and purified the virus, therefore they have not proved that this virus exists. Once they prove that then they'd have to prove that the virus causes some specific kind of disease.

As it is, what we have is every single respiratory ailment rebranded as "COVID". The PCR test, which this entire "pandemic" is based on, it literally meaningless for diagnostic purposes. You can look up Kary Mullis the INVENTOR of the test on record saying as much. It is a way to create a lot of DNA from a little bit of DNA, that's it. It cannot be used for diagnostic purposes. It is MEANINGLESS.

I don't think most of you understand just how fake and gay this all is.

THE ENTIRE THING IS COMPLETELY FAKE! THERE IS NO NEW VIRUS! THERE IS NO COVID!

Doesn't that make you kind of angry? Like how are these politicians able to go out in public still? I don't get it.

I'm going to present to you the linchpin of that line of reasoning. Your feeding on exactly the line of bullchit the left wants to you derive from this.

Trump didn't mandate the vax. Why is this important? Because without mandating the vax you eliminate the economic feedback loop that would other wise eliminate any functioning feedback from the populace. For example, if the vax doesn't work then people wouldn't take it. So lets look at what had to happen in order for the vax to be mandated. Spoiler alert, none of it happened under Trump's control.

First off, the definition of the vax had to be changed to accept something therepeautic, but the cdc didn't make a big deal of this because they didn't want it to be brought to light in the legal realm.

Secondly, the economic arrangements that were really made, are still obfuscated.

Lastly, public knowledge of the effectiveness of the vax by demographic and the risk of covid by age has been completely subdued under biden. These facts were coming out in late 2020, and was being used to articulate a specific strategy for response until Biden was elected/trump impeached.

We can't blame trump for not taking on ALL OF THE WORLD'S ELITE at the same time. He doesn't have the media, military, academia, etc. Thats the lesson we need to learn from this. The office of president simply isn't enough. The senate isn't enough. The house, and judicial system aren't enough. They will all cave to the media, as people react seemingly in unison with opinions that are broadcasted.

Not really and it's cleared from the body within weeks of vaccination.

Can you imagine the reaction if I similarly misspoke?!

What do you mean “not really”? We know that instructing the body to create that piece of spike protein can damage people in some of the same ways that the virus does so that isn’t disputable.

The spike protein encoded by the mRNA vaccines is not the same as the spike proteins on the virus.

Posting in threads, on topic, is annoying a forum? Is questioning the consensus narrative unreasonable?

But it damages the body in many of the same ways. So what did you think about the rest of the episode? Since you seem hung up on this aspect I’m assuming you agree with the rest of it or else you certainly would’ve pointed out anything else you consider an inaccuracy.

Which data suggest the spike proteins encoded by the vaccines damages the body in many of the same ways?

Do you even myocarditis?

I do. I had it in 2013 - not fun.

So if you know which side effects from the injection occur in ways similar to that seen from the virus then why did you ask? Inflammation, nerve issues, autoimmune issues, etc.

You stated the encoded spike protein is the known cause.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-021-00662-w


Before covid and covid vaccines were around, the incidence of myocarditis in adolescents was 15 in 100,000.

Then what part of the injection causes heart issues?

That's what I'm asking. You made the claim that vaccines cause myocarditis, so shouldn't you be the one supporting the claim?

the vaccine makers , cdc, fda, etc all acknowledge the myocarditis risk

Why do you think the vaccines cause myocarditis?

BRB, Inject spike proteins to stop any side effects I might get from spike proteins

He’s just derailing as usual. The process is laid out clearly in the podcast which he claims to have listened to.

I'm not derailing. The proposed process isn't supported.

I don't follow the Misc logic that covid spike proteins cause myocarditis, so everyone should pursue natural immunity (infection) rather than vaccination.

1.) the spike protein of the virus is changing so it’s quite possible that the newer variants aren’t as harmful. As far as I know the injections still instruct your body to make pieces of the old spike protein

2.) you can do things to avoid the virus or minimize the viral load you’re exposed to. There is no option with the injection because you get the amount they inject you with, and as hell it’s out there is no way to determine how much a person’s body will create. You may create a little while I may create a lot.

3.) natural immunity provides much more robust protection whereas you can get the injection and still be exposed to the harm of the virus anyway




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