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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
your links show chit about covidAre you retarded? Literally just go on google and change the date to pre covid and you'll found thousands of articles saying this and that can cause heart attacks. You must be trolling srs
I don't know if its different for you or not but the articles are rotating in subject matter
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02-11-2022, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
word salad? Just say you only have a 6th grade education and I will try to distill it down for you bro.word salad LMAO
you keep redefining what peer review is just like the definition of vax
you keep redefining what peer review is just like the definition of vax
And who redefined peer reviewed? Just because you don't understand how something works doesn't mean it changed. And yes, they changed the definition of vaccine. I don't get why this is so distressing to you. It went from providing immunity to providing protection, which is merely a linguistic issue. Perhaps it would have been better to come up with a new word other than vaccine to solve that challenge. Does something that provides protection have no value? Of course not. The only question is whether the protection is worth the trade-offs...
02-11-2022, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Nah, that poster made a claim, I asked for some support for that claim, then others joined in with other unsupported claims and ad hominems.It absolutely is when you myopically pick a specific portion as the only representative mechanism in which the premise presents itself because you're a cherry picking whore.
02-11-2022, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
https://www.webmd.com/pain-managemen...rt-attack-riskyour links show chit about covid
I don't know if its different for you or not but the articles are rotating in subject matter
I don't know if its different for you or not but the articles are rotating in subject matter
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...t-attack-study
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...trokes-n705901
You can't see those? Check the dates of the articles.
You can prove yourself wrong with just 1 minute of effort but are choosing not to. There's nothing left to discuss in that case.
02-11-2022, 10:02 AM
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I barely know anyone that was vaxed and haven't heard of anyone I know irl who's had a heart attack
Only people who've been obese or in pretty bad health with some other issue like pneumonia or something
Only people who've been obese or in pretty bad health with some other issue like pneumonia or something
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02-11-2022, 10:20 AM
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Psychopathic, nonce Eugenicists engineered a virus to wipe out the old and weak, so they could force a vaccine to wipe out the young and strong, because the whole point is to cull the population.
If it ever comes out what they did, they'll feign ignorance and pretend the "silver lining" was "Saving the environment." Because regular people, apparently, have such a massive effect on it but rich billionaires who fund genocides and wars don't have any effect on the environment, whatsoever.
Next will be engineered shortages, digital attacks. So many parallels to the Great Leap Forward on various fronts, and some people still can't see it. And that started before COVID.
If it ever comes out what they did, they'll feign ignorance and pretend the "silver lining" was "Saving the environment." Because regular people, apparently, have such a massive effect on it but rich billionaires who fund genocides and wars don't have any effect on the environment, whatsoever.
Next will be engineered shortages, digital attacks. So many parallels to the Great Leap Forward on various fronts, and some people still can't see it. And that started before COVID.
02-11-2022, 10:30 AM
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The scientists have shown the following cause heart attacks in young people -
climate change
meat
white people
guns
cash
two parent family
religion
love
freedom
The scientists have shown that government prevents heart attacks.
climate change
meat
white people
guns
cash
two parent family
religion
love
freedom
The scientists have shown that government prevents heart attacks.
02-11-2022, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Any links?The scientists have shown the following cause heart attacks in young people -
climate change
meat
white people
guns
cash
two parent family
religion
love
freedom
The scientists have shown that government prevents heart attacks.
climate change
meat
white people
guns
cash
two parent family
religion
love
freedom
The scientists have shown that government prevents heart attacks.
02-11-2022, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yeah hold on brb.Any links?
02-11-2022, 11:08 AM
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02-11-2022, 12:27 PM
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IDK OP. OneLegSquats has a point about "causes heart attacks" being a common title. See it as a new warning on product labels and being able to pin it down to a recent date might mean something; still...
- was the primary cause for ICU treatment COVID, or some heart related issue?
- was their risk of heart attack increased because of COVID or because of being on a ventilator or being treated with a new experimental drug?
If there were several studies that came to a similar conclusion it might signal something.
Originally Posted By sooby⏩
I thought it must be the Babylon Bee.fuking lost it at shaking your duvet too vigorously increases heart attacks
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The value of the comparison becomes questionable right there- due to lack of testing, false results, and poor/incomplete reporting by the major media regarding symptoms and severity there is no way to be certain that the people in that group were not infected with the virus.Covid infection seems to cause issues long after recovery:
" Researchers at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs compared rates of new cardiovascular problems in 153,760 individuals infected with the coronavirus before vaccines were available,5.6 million people who did not catch the virus, and another 5.9 million people whose data was collected before the pandemic. An average of one year after their recovery from the acute phase of the infection, the COVID-19 survivors had a 63% higher risk for heart attack, a 69% higher risk for problematic irregular heart rhythm, a 52% higher risk of stroke, a 72% higher risk of heart failure, and a nearly three times higher risk of a potentially fatal blood clot in the lungs compared with the other two groups, according to a report published on Monday in Nature Medicine."
The paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3
" Researchers at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs compared rates of new cardiovascular problems in 153,760 individuals infected with the coronavirus before vaccines were available,5.6 million people who did not catch the virus, and another 5.9 million people whose data was collected before the pandemic. An average of one year after their recovery from the acute phase of the infection, the COVID-19 survivors had a 63% higher risk for heart attack, a 69% higher risk for problematic irregular heart rhythm, a 52% higher risk of stroke, a 72% higher risk of heart failure, and a nearly three times higher risk of a potentially fatal blood clot in the lungs compared with the other two groups, according to a report published on Monday in Nature Medicine."
The paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3
Originally Posted By ymer⏩
Then on top of that your number is restricted to people who were in ICU *with* COVID. We don't know if COVID was the reason they were in ICU. We don't know if they spent time on a ventilator. We don't know if they were treated with remesdivir- one nurse testified that receiving 2 [or more] doses of remesdivir reduced her patients odds of survival to 25%Everything in your quotes is false. You made that paragraph yourself and does not reflect that study you're citing:
Reality:
Out of 153,760 people with "acute Covid-19", which is not actually stated in the paper how they define an "acute infection".Out of those 153,760 a small fraction of them (5,388 or 3.5%) where admitted into ICU, and that very small portion is the one with your cited numbers:
Reality:
Out of 153,760 people with "acute Covid-19", which is not actually stated in the paper how they define an "acute infection".Out of those 153,760 a small fraction of them (5,388 or 3.5%) where admitted into ICU, and that very small portion is the one with your cited numbers:
- was the primary cause for ICU treatment COVID, or some heart related issue?
- was their risk of heart attack increased because of COVID or because of being on a ventilator or being treated with a new experimental drug?
If there were several studies that came to a similar conclusion it might signal something.
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
You'd require a scientific study to convince you that your wife is getting dikked down by the pool boy when you've clearly been recording it yourself.

Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
Maybe. He still strikes me more as professional media opposition.JLC is the prime example of what happens when politics becomes religion.
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02-11-2022, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By HenryBoogers⏩
Not really. Real experts weighed in on the topic and were smeared and/or ignored.If I understand correctly I beleive this is the argument that providing partial immunity has an unintended negative consequence of creating more asymptomatic carriers as well as increasing the social mobility (reduced caution and social distancing) of those who have received it. This is likely true. But while interesting, and an important part of the equation, this fact alone is insufficient to drive any conclusions or decisions on how we should proceed. There are significant pros and cons to the vaccine and these should be weighed against each other instead of in isolation.
Originally Posted By HenryBoogers⏩
With a leaky vaccine [a vaccine that does not stop infection or transmission] full or partial immunization isn't the issue. It is that those who have had the injections, can still be infected and given that they have reduced symptoms are more likely to go about their normal routine and to infect a larger number of other people with the variant of the virus that has infected them [IOW a version that is more vaccine resistant].It's a valid argument against partial immunizations, I am just stating that this needs to be weighed against the benefit instead of looked at in isolation. The mortality rates of vaccinated and unvaccinated show huge numbers of lives that were saved due to the vaccine and this is the counterweight that needs to be considered.
Also I'm personally skeptical that "huge numbers of lives were saved". I've come across too many accounts stating that the virus has mostly been killing the same people as before [the most vulnerable]. Possibly related to the protection given by the shots falling fairly quickly.
Originally Posted By HenryBoogers⏩
That comment was about JLC more than it was about the peer review process.Let's at least apply equal expectation on both sides of the discussion. You can't argue against peer reviewed data yet leverage other studies that suit your argument as you did (without link or source) in the first part of your quote up above. Peer reviewed studies are the best that we have and yes, they are imperfect and open to challenge. Let's challenge them based on the merit of the study, though.
Originally Posted By HenryBoogers⏩
Omicron was discovered in South Africa, a country with a low vaccination rate. And I'm not even sure that the mrna injections are available there or if they have been using something from another country [Russia, China].Are you sure? If it's a partial immunity therapeutic that enables the virus to continue to spread why specifically state it arose from the unvaccinated population? You mean from the total population, right? And you can argue the vaccine is slowing this (though not without stating that the vaccine is effective in slowing the spread), but then you are still back to weighing the benefits of an accelerated drop in virility against the lives saved along the way.
Originally Posted By HenryBoogers⏩
It is distressing because it is a LIE. The injections are a therapeutic treatment to improve immune response. I can't even say how many times I encountered a person who was not wearing a mask or encouraging people that they were meeting with that they did not need to wear a mask saying "it's okay, I'm fully vaccinated". The worthlessness of the masks aside, the spread could have been LESS if people had been told clearly at the very start that the shots would NOT stop them from getting the virus or spreading the virus and that the study for EUA approval did not even try to calculate those things.And who redefined peer reviewed? Just because you don't understand how something works doesn't mean it changed.And yes, they changed the definition of vaccine. I don't get why this is so distressing to you.It went from providing immunity to providing protection, which is merely a linguistic issue. Perhaps it would have been better to come up with a new word other than vaccine to solve that challenge. Does something that provides protection have no value? Of course not. The only question is whether the protection is worth the trade-offs...
Of course then they would not have had any reason to force people to get the shots.
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02-11-2022, 12:36 PM
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it's been accepted that smoking increases risks of cardiac issues. also, i believe heart attacks happen often in the morning after you wake up.
TLDR, everything causes cancer and heart attacks.
TLDR, everything causes cancer and heart attacks.
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