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post 1656007183 02-11-2022, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats
Are you retarded? Literally just go on google and change the date to pre covid and you'll found thousands of articles saying this and that can cause heart attacks. You must be trolling srs
your links show chit about covid

I don't know if its different for you or not but the articles are rotating in subject matter
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post 1656007383 02-11-2022, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
word salad LMAO

you keep redefining what peer review is just like the definition of vax
word salad? Just say you only have a 6th grade education and I will try to distill it down for you bro.

And who redefined peer reviewed? Just because you don't understand how something works doesn't mean it changed. And yes, they changed the definition of vaccine. I don't get why this is so distressing to you. It went from providing immunity to providing protection, which is merely a linguistic issue. Perhaps it would have been better to come up with a new word other than vaccine to solve that challenge. Does something that provides protection have no value? Of course not. The only question is whether the protection is worth the trade-offs...
post 1656007403 02-11-2022, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
It absolutely is when you myopically pick a specific portion as the only representative mechanism in which the premise presents itself because you're a cherry picking whore.
Nah, that poster made a claim, I asked for some support for that claim, then others joined in with other unsupported claims and ad hominems.
post 1656007433 02-11-2022, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
your links show chit about covid

I don't know if its different for you or not but the articles are rotating in subject matter
https://www.webmd.com/pain-managemen...rt-attack-risk

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...t-attack-study

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...trokes-n705901

You can't see those? Check the dates of the articles.
You can prove yourself wrong with just 1 minute of effort but are choosing not to. There's nothing left to discuss in that case.
post 1656007603 02-11-2022, 10:02 AM
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I barely know anyone that was vaxed and haven't heard of anyone I know irl who's had a heart attack

Only people who've been obese or in pretty bad health with some other issue like pneumonia or something
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post 1656008473 02-11-2022, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Any chance you have support for the claim that vaccinated people exhale spike proteins?
Utterly ahumourous twat.
post 1656008483 02-11-2022, 10:20 AM
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Psychopathic, nonce Eugenicists engineered a virus to wipe out the old and weak, so they could force a vaccine to wipe out the young and strong, because the whole point is to cull the population.
If it ever comes out what they did, they'll feign ignorance and pretend the "silver lining" was "Saving the environment." Because regular people, apparently, have such a massive effect on it but rich billionaires who fund genocides and wars don't have any effect on the environment, whatsoever.

Next will be engineered shortages, digital attacks. So many parallels to the Great Leap Forward on various fronts, and some people still can't see it. And that started before COVID.
post 1656009043 02-11-2022, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
Utterly ahumourous twat.
Is that a no?
post 1656010123 02-11-2022, 10:54 AM
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The scientists have shown the following cause heart attacks in young people -

climate change
meat
white people
guns
cash
two parent family
religion
love
freedom

The scientists have shown that government prevents heart attacks.
post 1656010273 02-11-2022, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
The scientists have shown the following cause heart attacks in young people -

climate change
meat
white people
guns
cash
two parent family
religion
love
freedom

The scientists have shown that government prevents heart attacks.
Any links?
post 1656010473 02-11-2022, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Any links?
Yeah hold on brb.
post 1656010603 02-11-2022, 11:08 AM
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post 1656014163 02-11-2022, 12:27 PM
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IDK OP. OneLegSquats has a point about "causes heart attacks" being a common title. See it as a new warning on product labels and being able to pin it down to a recent date might mean something; still...
Originally Posted By sooby
fuking lost it at shaking your duvet too vigorously increases heart attacks
I thought it must be the Babylon Bee.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Covid infection seems to cause issues long after recovery:

" Researchers at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs compared rates of new cardiovascular problems in 153,760 individuals infected with the coronavirus before vaccines were available,5.6 million people who did not catch the virus, and another 5.9 million people whose data was collected before the pandemic. An average of one year after their recovery from the acute phase of the infection, the COVID-19 survivors had a 63% higher risk for heart attack, a 69% higher risk for problematic irregular heart rhythm, a 52% higher risk of stroke, a 72% higher risk of heart failure, and a nearly three times higher risk of a potentially fatal blood clot in the lungs compared with the other two groups, according to a report published on Monday in Nature Medicine."

The paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3
The value of the comparison becomes questionable right there- due to lack of testing, false results, and poor/incomplete reporting by the major media regarding symptoms and severity there is no way to be certain that the people in that group were not infected with the virus.
Originally Posted By ymer
Everything in your quotes is false. You made that paragraph yourself and does not reflect that study you're citing:

Reality:

Out of 153,760 people with "acute Covid-19", which is not actually stated in the paper how they define an "acute infection".Out of those 153,760 a small fraction of them (5,388 or 3.5%) where admitted into ICU, and that very small portion is the one with your cited numbers:
Then on top of that your number is restricted to people who were in ICU *with* COVID. We don't know if COVID was the reason they were in ICU. We don't know if they spent time on a ventilator. We don't know if they were treated with remesdivir- one nurse testified that receiving 2 [or more] doses of remesdivir reduced her patients odds of survival to 25%

- was the primary cause for ICU treatment COVID, or some heart related issue?
- was their risk of heart attack increased because of COVID or because of being on a ventilator or being treated with a new experimental drug?

If there were several studies that came to a similar conclusion it might signal something.
Originally Posted By rectifryer
You'd require a scientific study to convince you that your wife is getting dikked down by the pool boy when you've clearly been recording it yourself.
Originally Posted By nosirrahx
JLC is the prime example of what happens when politics becomes religion.
Maybe. He still strikes me more as professional media opposition.
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post 1656014213 02-11-2022, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By HenryBoogers
If I understand correctly I beleive this is the argument that providing partial immunity has an unintended negative consequence of creating more asymptomatic carriers as well as increasing the social mobility (reduced caution and social distancing) of those who have received it. This is likely true. But while interesting, and an important part of the equation, this fact alone is insufficient to drive any conclusions or decisions on how we should proceed. There are significant pros and cons to the vaccine and these should be weighed against each other instead of in isolation.
Not really. Real experts weighed in on the topic and were smeared and/or ignored.
Originally Posted By HenryBoogers
It's a valid argument against partial immunizations, I am just stating that this needs to be weighed against the benefit instead of looked at in isolation. The mortality rates of vaccinated and unvaccinated show huge numbers of lives that were saved due to the vaccine and this is the counterweight that needs to be considered.
With a leaky vaccine [a vaccine that does not stop infection or transmission] full or partial immunization isn't the issue. It is that those who have had the injections, can still be infected and given that they have reduced symptoms are more likely to go about their normal routine and to infect a larger number of other people with the variant of the virus that has infected them [IOW a version that is more vaccine resistant].

Also I'm personally skeptical that "huge numbers of lives were saved". I've come across too many accounts stating that the virus has mostly been killing the same people as before [the most vulnerable]. Possibly related to the protection given by the shots falling fairly quickly.
Originally Posted By HenryBoogers
Let's at least apply equal expectation on both sides of the discussion. You can't argue against peer reviewed data yet leverage other studies that suit your argument as you did (without link or source) in the first part of your quote up above. Peer reviewed studies are the best that we have and yes, they are imperfect and open to challenge. Let's challenge them based on the merit of the study, though.
That comment was about JLC more than it was about the peer review process.
Originally Posted By HenryBoogers
Are you sure? If it's a partial immunity therapeutic that enables the virus to continue to spread why specifically state it arose from the unvaccinated population? You mean from the total population, right? And you can argue the vaccine is slowing this (though not without stating that the vaccine is effective in slowing the spread), but then you are still back to weighing the benefits of an accelerated drop in virility against the lives saved along the way.
Omicron was discovered in South Africa, a country with a low vaccination rate. And I'm not even sure that the mrna injections are available there or if they have been using something from another country [Russia, China].
Originally Posted By HenryBoogers
And who redefined peer reviewed? Just because you don't understand how something works doesn't mean it changed.And yes, they changed the definition of vaccine. I don't get why this is so distressing to you.It went from providing immunity to providing protection, which is merely a linguistic issue. Perhaps it would have been better to come up with a new word other than vaccine to solve that challenge. Does something that provides protection have no value? Of course not. The only question is whether the protection is worth the trade-offs...
It is distressing because it is a LIE. The injections are a therapeutic treatment to improve immune response. I can't even say how many times I encountered a person who was not wearing a mask or encouraging people that they were meeting with that they did not need to wear a mask saying "it's okay, I'm fully vaccinated". The worthlessness of the masks aside, the spread could have been LESS if people had been told clearly at the very start that the shots would NOT stop them from getting the virus or spreading the virus and that the study for EUA approval did not even try to calculate those things.

Of course then they would not have had any reason to force people to get the shots.
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post 1656014623 02-11-2022, 12:36 PM
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it's been accepted that smoking increases risks of cardiac issues. also, i believe heart attacks happen often in the morning after you wake up.

TLDR, everything causes cancer and heart attacks.
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