Lmao, it's never been easier to get laid as an Asian dude if you are willing to approach and talk to girls. Short and nerdy guys will struggle regardless of race.

Still how do you explain an asian male model having a bad time at dating though?

And since we're talking about Korea:

I've seen him talk and the dude has a really weak, feminine vibe which explains why he struggles with girls. A typical Asian dude who overthinks and ends up having a boring, logical conversation with girls.

Which country do you think has the hottest girls? Ukraine.

This is the type of reaction a 35-year-old Korean man gets just by walking around in Ukraine (he's probably above avg in facial attractiveness, to be fair).





I never had any problem getting laid before Korean pop culture started getting noticed in the West, but things got even easier now.

Every night I go out (I live in Canada), I'd meet girls who talk about how much they love k-pop & k-dramas, etc lol.

We already had this discussion on page 1 though, girls look at Kpop koreans as a best friend, not as a sexual partner. And girls wanting to take pictures with you doesn't mean they want to f*ck you lol. Almost no asians in Ukraine, of course a guy looking like a kpoper will attract attention, although I'm not saying it doesn't help, I'm sure there's a niche who is into it.

Let's look at the captial of Kpop, Seoul:

"In a 2021 study that surveyed residents of Seoul, only 58% of men in their 20s said they had had sex in the past year, a lower rate than for men in their 60s. The numbers were similar among women in their 20s, but for a different reason.While most celibate men said they didn’t have sex because they couldn’t find a partner, most celibate women said it was because they had no interest in sex."

Most women aren't attracted to kpop guys, hell their women don't want to **** them. As I said, they look at them as their friend nothing more.

I'm sure a masculine korean will have more success than guys looking like lesbians.

He has plenty of videos on his channel where he invites many of these girls to his room and they are all over him.

As a masculine dude, I'd actually love to think girls are only sexually turned on by a tall, muscular man who weighs 200+ lb, but that's simply not true.

I have a few friends (Asian, White, Arab) in my circle (me included) who's banged btw 200~500 girls, and I'm pretty much the only person who looks like someone that lifts.

The only thing that we all have in common are: 6 ft+ & not fat,

The dude in the vid is 6 ft tall and looks like a k-pop idol. I can assure you that any girl into k-pop would love to fk him based on my experience.

You don't need to be a jacked, masculine dude to slay prime poosy.

What more evidence do you need than this? rofl



Most Asian men struggle in the West because of:

1. Height

2. Awkwardness (especially when things get sexual) & way too logical

If you are tall and you know how to tease and flirt, you'll be fine.

I've seen a few short Asian men slay, but they do need to put in that extra work.

She has good taste

I don't know bro, the stats and studies are pretty clear. But sure I'm not saying there aren't girls who are actually into Kpop guys but it's a niche, hence their own women in the capital of Kpop not wanting to fck them. Also the guy you posted (who is famous and rich btw) or for example the average white pretty boy isn't on the same level of Kpop demasculinization.

But I completely agree with the awkwardness part, many guys not only asians are just autistic these days and don't dare to approach.

ITT: Miscers behave like miscers and reduce attraction/dating/mate-selection to solely biological factors.

It boggles my mind how you guys can have a multi-page discussion about this topic without once mentioning social status.

Miscers tend to think your LOOKS determine your access to women, and maybe that’s true of the OLD world, but as soon as you step back into reality what determines your access to women is status, status, STATUS.

I know as guys we tend not to give a chit about “social proof” when selecting a partner, but it is massively important to women.

Anyway, long story short, men (especially miscers) have a tendency to project their own approach to mating/dating onto women, and as men we tend not to care about status at all but massively care about looks.

Kdrama and kpop boys are actually at the top of the foodchain in Korea and can get unlimited pussy.

My understanding is the problem is Korea is like extreme 80/20 rule and it applies to men and women. The average korean guy and girl doesnt look like their celebrities, just as they dont in the West. Why would a plain korean guy, benefit from being korean, in a country that is 99% Korean? Your logic doesnt make any sense.

If you read up about their night life, even below average korean girls can get rejected from entering nightclubs for being too ugly. Where Im from nightclubs rarely ever reject girls, only men. So youll get girls that cant get kdrama and kpop guys, not wanting to have sex with average looking guys.

Kpop guys keep their lives very private, but occassionally you get scandals. Theres a current kpop guy thats cancelled for fking too many girls AND using them for money.

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2021...ex-girlfriends

"I can't imagine how strong of a mentality he has to meet two women a day - one in the morning and one in the nighttime. I tried to be a good fit for Lucas for two years but everything he did was a lie."

Its the same with the BTS boys, its not a friendship relationship, theres millions of accounts on tiktok and twitter saying they want to have sex with them.

For example:https://mobile.twitter.com/bulletproofkpwhite girl learnt korean because of bts, posting about dreams of having sex with themhttps://mobile.twitter.com/bulletpro...96611399548938But theres actually like millions of these account.

Of course my logic makes sense, korean males emulate kpop guys and try to look like them because they think it will get them pussy. But it doesn't as the study clearly states they can't find a partner, while the women don't want sex with them. They also have the lowest birthrate in the world. Or wait are you denying the average young korean man does not want to look like a kpop guy? South Korean men are leading the world with plastic surgery to try and look like the kpop guys.

And you're wrong about the 80/20 rule applying to both women and men, it only applies to men; the men have a problem finding a sexual partner, not the women, the women just don't want to have sex.

No sh*t rich and famous kpop stars can fck many women. We're talking about the average korean/asian who sometimes benefit from women who are into that niche. But again most women don't look at the average korean emulating kpop looks as a sexual partner hence in the city with most Kpop guys/capita, inceldom is immense.

Some more stats form Kpop nation, the most recent stats are probably even more brutal;

[b]South Korea's total fertility rate in 2020 was 0.84 births per woman—the lowest figure in the world[/b]and well below the replacement-level rate of 2.1

[URL=https://carnegieendowment.org/2021/06/29/demographics-and-future-of-south-korea-pub-84817]https://carnegieendowment.org/2021/0...orea-pub-84817[/URL]

Expect even more decline:[URL=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-09/world-s-lowest-fertility-rate-to-get-even-lower-korea-reports]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-korea-reports[/URL]

In Korea,[b]23.1% of males lost their virginity to prostitutes.[/b]

[URL=https://prezi.com/05s973mn2jjz/the-purity-mythjessica-valenti/]https://prezi.com/05s973mn2jjz/the-p...ssica-valenti/[/URL]

[URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_South_Korea]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosti...in_South_Korea[/URL]

"By gender,[b]50.8 percent of men in their 30s remained unmarried.[/b]"

[URL=http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210927000740]http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210927000740[/URL]

Even when married, many kpopers don't get sex:

[b]"Percentage of 'sexless' Korean couples hits world's top level"[/b]

"The percentage of married Koreans who do not have sex with their spouses has reached 36.1 percent"

Only Jpop asians do worse; ""Given the international average of sexless couples is about 20 percent, and that of Japan, regarded as the most sexless country in the world, is between 35 and 40 percent, Korea's sexless ratio is one of the world's highest," said Kang Dong-woo, head of a sex clinic."

[URL=https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2021/07/113_208443.html]https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nat...13_208443.html[/URL]

"In sharp contrast, in South Korea,[b]40 per cent of people in their 20s and 30s appear to have quit dating altogether.[/b]"

"Today, many refer to young Koreans as the “sampo generation” (literally, “giving up on three”) because they have given up on these three things: dating, marriage and children. "

[url]https://theconversation.com/why-young-people-in-south-korea-are-staying-single-despite-efforts-to-spark-dat

same thing is happening in the west though. Less and less people having interest in sex.
Likely hormonal imbalance tbh. We all know test has been dropping over time. Chickens are coming home to roost

Same reason chads still slay inside the USA?

Go to Korea, the average Korean doesnt look anything like a kdrama guy or kpop star. The average guy wont even try to emulate them, just as average white guy doesnt emulate a white celeb. Its the same in the west, the average white guy doesnt look anything like their top celeb.

It impacts women, because women only want the top, and if they cant they just wont have sex. But average korean girl looks nothing like a kpop girl idol.

Does an average German guy benefit from being German in Germany (which i assume is like 90% same race?) How could they when girls will compete for the top 20% of Germans. In fact studies shows Germans are becoming more and more sexless, and have always had very low birth rates, bottom 10 country I believe. Germans are also supposed to represent the ideal white look as well.

https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/g...cent%20monthly.

Absolutely although it's funny seeing some of the cope from asian dudes.

"everybody wants to fck kpop looking dudes bro"

Meanwhile in reality, Kpop country aka South Korea is literally the worst incel nation on the planet.

Sure they don't look like it but they TRY to emulate them, they just failed because they're not good looking enough also the reason south korean men lead the world in plastic surgery. They absolutely do try and emulate their looks, this isn't like in the west where most guys hardly care about their looks.No, women CHOOSE to not have sex, korean men just can't find a sexual partner, they DO NOT CHOOSE to be sexless. Big difference.But like I said, most guys in the west do not care about looks, south korean men absolutely do hence them leading the world in male cosmetic surgery. And like you said "kpop boys are actually at the top of the foodchain in Korea and can get unlimited pussy." Kpop isn't about location, it should work everywhere and especially in South Korea if your quote is true. But as the stats and study shows, it doesn't.

Oh and actually it does benefit a white guy being in a white country, stats show white women are the least likely to date interracially. It's white men who go out of their racial group to date.

Btw, here's a recent study from 2021, it's also not getting better for ethnics in white countries:

New study indicates that potential partners experience a large penalty for being Black on dating apps

https://www.psypost.org/2021/07/new-...ing-apps-61545

"Chopik and Johnson also found that participants were more likely to swipe right on potential partners from their own racial group.But even after controlling for this effect, the researchers found that potential partners were penalized for being Black, Asian, or Hispanic."

[...]

"The penalty for Black individuals was particularly large. Participants were 2.3 to 3.3 times less likely to swipe right on Black versus White partners. The penalty for Hispanic individuals, on the other hand, was small and only appeared in two of the four studies."

“The most consistent finding from our study is that, by far, people use very surface-level features to swipe on romantic partners. Basically, it’s how attractive people are and, more surprisingly, the race of the person. People of color experience a large penalty when navigating these dating apps — they’re less likely to be swiped right on (i.e., chosen) controlling for how attractive they are,” Chopik told PsyPost.

Korean male beauty standards 2022:

https://thevou.com/beauty/korean-beauty-standards/

"Nowadays, men’s ideal Korean beauty standard is a clear reflection of K-Pop stars (Korean Pop music)."

"Contrary to Western culture and the beauty industry with a focus (almost exclusive) on women, the Korean beauty market embraces men’s makeup.

Beauty products are not seen as gendered products, and South Korean men purchase and wear several brands and products.

Over the past decade,South Korean men have become the world’s most prominent male spenders on skincare and beauty products.

Koreans are also early adopters to anything new in beauty, such as skincare fridges, skin transplants, and blood transfusions."

My point is even your stats leave plenty of room for the top 20% of korean men to have unlimited sex. The only difference is it seems that Korean women would rather not have sex than not have it with Chang. And no the average korea guy looks closer to the average starcraft play than a kpop guy.

Lets look at America, studies show that women rate 80% of American men below average looking. Even if you completely removed nonwhite men, that would mean women rate 70% of white American men below average looking. How can that be when white men try to emulate brad pitt and paul walker.

Now why would a woman bang a white guy thats below average, when she could bang a white guy she rates even just average? That means 30% of men are taking pretty much all the women. So what happens when eventually woman straight out refuse to have sex if they cant get the top 30%? Youll get a scenario where 70% of women arent interested in sex.



Averate match rate for an american man is estimated at 2%.

But one would expect that in the city with most kpop looking guys/capita the stats wouldn't be so depressing. Look at the article above, young korean men are trying to emulate kpop looks but even that doesn't help and korean women don't want to have sex with them. My point is if Kpop would be so attractive to women one would see better odds than the 80/20 you believe is dominating society there.Wrong, like I said white men don't try to emulate Brad Pitt or any other celebrity, most western men hardly care about their looks especially compared to the average youn south korean man. South korean men lead the world in cosmetic surgery and in beauty products. Both different situations.

You can't compare a Tinder study with a general dating study in Seoul that looks at more than online dating.
Again tinder isn't like dating irl. Nowhere in the world (besides Japan) is it as bad as in South Korea.

Irl is still impacted by the existence of tinder. When a woman knows she can get 100 dikcks on command online, it changes how she behaves irl as well.

The amount of status you need to have now to make a difference isn't attainable to the vast majority of men. If you aren't rich or famous , she won't give a fuk. It'll come down to if she thinks you're hot

Im going to leave this thread since you dont seem to understand how statistics work and think every guy in korea looks like a kpop guy. The average korean looks nothing like them, you can google live videos yourself to verify.

In regards to plastic surgery, studies show 20% of korean women have had it.

"A study from 2008 determined that 20 percent of young Korean girls have undergone cosmetic surgery. This is significantly above the average rate in other countries."

Plastic surgeons estimate male clients is up to 20% of clients.https://www.allure.com/story/korean-...surgery-trends

Which means only up to 4% of Korean men have had plastic surgery.

Average is 50% in statistics. So you can easily conclude average korean guy doesnt care about looks at all.

Online dating is the most common way people find a partner in America these days, surpassing 'irl dating'. So that is the direction America is heading in.

Short and nerdy white guys can still do well with asian chicks

yay another incel thread


with incels debating other incels on who's more incel


love this for you brahs

No, but these types of men are the kind of men women don't want.

Generally speaking, men just want sex but women want relationships. All of the 35 and older women who are single will have nothing but the rejects to choose from. Hence the depression.

lmao, pretty much this.

A bunch of loser incels pulling up stats and arguing about who's more incel.

comedy gold.

This.

Those percentages are way low. Every <40 year old Korean women I've met has had some sort of surgery, usually multiple. It is so common that they don't even consider "little" ones surgery. But they usually deny it for vanity reasons.

One I was talking to sent me a picture of her bandaged up randomly one day. I asked when did she do it, why didn't she mention it etc and she said it was no big deal, only took a few hours and she does little ones all the time. It was as casual as getting a pedicure.

And the guys on TV or music are just as bad. Wonder why they all look the same?

Again personal experience, the top 5% of any race will do well with the opposite sex of any race. But as a whole, Asian and black men are at the lowest rung of the dating marketplace (for different reasons). They will more likely date within race because their options are more limited.

Also, these cringey "pick up" videos never prove anything. Most pay the women ahead of time to play along. Like those stupid Instagram open hand, show condom, girl drags random guy away to have sex right there videos.

Exactly what I was thinking

Incels will only increase worldwide

Why would a woman bother an average dude when she can wait for Chad to finish busting in another woman and take.her turn?

Meanwhile average joe cant get laid to save his life