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Originally Posted By TokenV
I'm all for serving justice to the leaders that mandated all that chit, but rooting for bad stuff to happen to those that took the vax... I just can't

and as you say those at the top will never be held accountable, but holding a grudge against the serfs leads to nothing but bitterness
If you're a "serf" that wanted me to lose my job and rights, for being unvaccinated, then **** you, and I don't feel bad for whatever possible effects you may suffer from.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
who needs abortion when u can just get quintuple jabbed?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
If you're a "serf" that wanted me to lose my job and rights, for being unvaccinated, then **** you, and I don't feel bad for whatever possible effects you may suffer from.
actually quite the opposite but whatever

stay salty
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Originally Posted By katya422
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Have no fear, ethnics are on the way to help the West's fertility problem....



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Originally Posted By Anachron
We know the answer to this already, as the vaxcucks are already doing this, every time a "conspiracy theory" comes true.

Early last year, if you questioned the vaccine, you were spreading "misinformation."
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Originally Posted By Lunatic
Be honest with me, please.

What will you say if it comes out that infertility really is a side effect of the vaccine? I'm genuinely curious.
Well that has a vanishingly small probability of transpiring. For these reasons:


1. There was already a hypothesis that the vaccine would cause infertility because the antibodies produced would attack a placental protein. But the truth is that the sequence is too short for the immune system to confuse it with placental proteins. And remember, what the vaccine can do, the virus can do and worse. We'd expect Covid itself to cause pregnancy loss in significant proportions too, if this were the case. But the evidence available doesn't support this.


2. For short term effects, these would be caught by the clinical trials process unless it was very rare. And those very rare events would be caught by post-marketing surveillance, and from this it doesn't vindicate a reason for not getting a vaccine.


And what does that short term data say? Hundreds of millions of doses which are safe and well-tolerated and most side effects are just normal reactions to a vaccine.

3. For long-term effects, there's basically no biochemical plausibility for these mRNA vaccines to do that. The technology is very simple and short-lived. They have a very brief lifetime within the cell, and the possibility of any long-term effects are basically impossible. I know of no vaccine which causes no issues in the short term and causes a sudden, unexpected long term issue years down the road.


Even still, there's more of a risk of this with traditional types of vaccines so any argument would doubly apply to a regular vaccine, and of course, Covid itself has many documented and debilitating long-term effects. So weighing the risks, it's a no brainer between choosing the vaccine or waiting for an infection.


The development of the vaccine was a lot faster, but that doesn't mean rushed. Since it was a once in a lifetime pandemic, the entire world was working on a vaccine, there was an unprecedented dissemination of scientific knowledge, and the usual regulatory bureaucracy was trimmed to facilitate this. But this doesn't mean the end product is less safe.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Well that has a vanishingly small probability of transpiring. For these reasons:


1. There was already a hypothesis that the vaccine would cause infertility because the antibodies produced would attack a placental protein. But the truth is that the sequence is too short for the immune system to confuse it with placental proteins. And remember, what the vaccine can do, the virus can do and worse. We'd expect Covid itself to cause pregnancy loss in significant proportions too, if this were the case. But the evidence available doesn't support this.


2. For short term effects, these would be caught by the clinical trials process unless it was very rare. And those very rare events would be caught by post-marketing surveillance, and from this it doesn't vindicate a reason for not getting a vaccine.


And what does that short term data say? Hundreds of millions of doses which are safe and well-tolerated and most side effects are just normal reactions to a vaccine.

3. For long-term effects, there's basically no biochemical plausibility for these mRNA vaccines to do that. The technology is very simple and short-lived. They have a very brief lifetime within the cell, and the possibility of any long-term effects are basically impossible. I know of no vaccine which causes no issues in the short term and causes a sudden, unexpected long term issue years down the road.


Even still, there's more of a risk of this with traditional types of vaccines so any argument would doubly apply to a regular vaccine, and of course, Covid itself has many documented and debilitating long-term effects. So weighing the risks, it's a no brainer between choosing the vaccine or waiting for an infection.


The development of the vaccine was a lot faster, but that doesn't mean rushed. Since it was a once in a lifetime pandemic, the entire world was working on a vaccine, there was an unprecedented dissemination of scientific knowledge, and the usual regulatory bureaucracy was trimmed to facilitate this. But this doesn't mean the end product is less safe.
People can ramble on forever about "it's a no brainer" and "there's no evidence that xyz" and "these aren't less safe than any other vaccine"

The truth is that almost all of us know multiple people who had unusual health events immediately following the Covid vaccine. Nobody knows anyone who has that happened from say, their seasonal flu vaccine.

This whole thing is a cult. If a million people dropped dead tomorrow, everyone on your side would explain how it's not correlated.
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I haven't taken a single vaccine because I'm not stupid, but have friends and family who have.


Are you guys bunch losers who don't have anyone in your life? Just curious? not sure how it's funny if ppl start dropping dead by 2030 or whatever fk ppl are saying in this thread.
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For all of you guys who want to explain we spent too much time listing to conspiracy theories:

My mother had bloodwork done at a routine checkup. Everything looked fine. Got her first jab.

Fast forward three weeks. She has a mini stroke. Check her labs again. Hematocrit was DOUBLE what it was 3 weeks earlier. Ended up doing both a therapeutic phlebotomy and needing blood thinners temporarily.

But the "clot shot" stuff is totally a conspiracy and this was a coincidence, right?
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Originally Posted By ye193x
I haven't taken a single vaccine because I'm not stupid
Not even for tetanus or MMR?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Well that has a vanishingly small probability of transpiring. For these reasons:


1. There was already a hypothesis that the vaccine would cause infertility because the antibodies produced would attack a placental protein. But the truth is that the sequence is too short for the immune system to confuse it with placental proteins. And remember, what the vaccine can do, the virus can do and worse. We'd expect Covid itself to cause pregnancy loss in significant proportions too, if this were the case. But the evidence available doesn't support this.


2. For short term effects, these would be caught by the clinical trials process unless it was very rare. And those very rare events would be caught by post-marketing surveillance, and from this it doesn't vindicate a reason for not getting a vaccine.


And what does that short term data say? Hundreds of millions of doses which are safe and well-tolerated and most side effects are just normal reactions to a vaccine.

3. For long-term effects, there's basically no biochemical plausibility for these mRNA vaccines to do that. The technology is very simple and short-lived. They have a very brief lifetime within the cell, and the possibility of any long-term effects are basically impossible. I know of no vaccine which causes no issues in the short term and causes a sudden, unexpected long term issue years down the road.


Even still, there's more of a risk of this with traditional types of vaccines so any argument would doubly apply to a regular vaccine, and of course, Covid itself has many documented and debilitating long-term effects. So weighing the risks, it's a no brainer between choosing the vaccine or waiting for an infection.


The development of the vaccine was a lot faster, but that doesn't mean rushed. Since it was a once in a lifetime pandemic, the entire world was working on a vaccine, there was an unprecedented dissemination of scientific knowledge, and the usual regulatory bureaucracy was trimmed to facilitate this. But this doesn't mean the end product is less safe.
You're gonna say with a straight face that it wasn't rushed?

That there's nothing wrong with J&J?

That they had younger individuals taking the wrong dose?

That people weren't even taking Pfizer the right way?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Plus, this kind of statistic would be impossible to hide. We'd know if 80% of pregnant women in the Western hemisphere had undergone a miscarriage in the previous year.
A good number of miscarriages aren't "events" and they often happen before the woman even knows they are pregnant and are not even aware they've had a miscarriage.
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Weren't there concerns early on regarding fertility? Of course, it was next to impossible to gleam a full understanding because there was an ongoing Vaccine Inquisition ready to burn heretics while the data was to be sealed away for 75 years. The entire distribution and administration of the vaccine was such a global clusterfukk that it was too late early on to establish important baselines for data regarding all sorts of variables just concerning specific states of health alone.

Then there's the funny thing about long term side effects: you only learn about them in thelong term, which flies in the face of a rushed vaccine backed by people who believe they have the gift of precognition graced upon them from Lord and Savior Fauci.

Best of all, though, was how every hospitalization and death where COVID was found was immediately tossed into the "COVID death" pile, but once the vaccines rolled out, every possible negative side effect that just so happened to show up after vaccination was deemed a mere coincidence.

I suppose it makes sense why it's in the same lot's best interest that the vaccinesdon'tnegatively impact fertility or else they wouldn't have to flip their collective sh*t nearly as much over Roe v. Wade.
Originally Posted By LinuxJon
For all of you guys who want to explain we spent too much time listing to conspiracy theories:

My mother had bloodwork done at a routine checkup. Everything looked fine. Got her first jab.

Fast forward three weeks. She has a mini stroke. Check her labs again. Hematocrit was DOUBLE what it was 3 weeks earlier. Ended up doing both a therapeutic phlebotomy and needing blood thinners temporarily.

But the "clot shot" stuff is totally a conspiracy and this was a coincidence, right?
Sorry to hear about that and I hope she is improving.

Early on, I told my mother that the only way she was getting the vaccine was if I went and got it with her. The more we learned about it, we both had no intention of ever getting it because of our (different) preexisting conditions lined up alongside what side effectswereknown at the time, so there was no way in hell we would take the risk.
Originally Posted By Lunatic
Be honest with me, please.

What will you say if it comes out that infertility really is a side effect of the vaccine? I'm genuinely curious.
I guess the answer is several paragraphs of cope.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You're gonna say with a straight face that it wasn't rushed?

That there's nothing wrong with J&J?

That they had younger individuals taking the wrong dose?

That people weren't even taking Pfizer the right way?
We already know it wouldn't be straight. Square peg in a round hole, and all.

And adding onto your point on wrong dosages, they were straight up givingeveryonethe wrong dose because it was a general, one-size-fits-all dosage across the board at the onset! When we hadzerodata or understanding of what the vaccines could do and totally inadequate testing, they just said, "nah, shoot up the same amount in that 100lb woman as that 350lb guy."

So much was handled unequivocallywrongwith the vaccines and the amount of overtly suspicious behavior across governments, politicians, and the pharmaceutical companies themselves really makes for a depressing look at how close we are to a corpocratic dystopia.
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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13
Weren't there concerns early on regarding fertility? Of course, it was next to impossible to gleam a full understanding because there was an ongoing Vaccine Inquisition ready to burn heretics while the data was to be sealed away for 75 years. The entire distribution and administration of the vaccine was such a global clusterfukk that it was too late early on to establish important baselines for data regarding all sorts of variables just concerning specific states of health alone.

Then there's the funny thing about long term side effects: you only learn about them in thelong term, which flies in the face of a rushed vaccine backed by people who believe they have the gift of precognition graced upon them from Lord and Savior Fauci.

Best of all, though, was how every hospitalization and death where COVID was found was immediately tossed into the "COVID death" pile, but once the vaccines rolled out, every possible negative side effect that just so happened to show up after vaccination was deemed a mere coincidence.

I suppose it makes sense why it's in the same lot's best interest that the vaccinesdon'tnegatively impact fertility or else they wouldn't have to flip their collective sh*t nearly as much over Roe v. Wade.


Sorry to hear about that and I hope she is improving.

Early on, I told my mother that the only way she was getting the vaccine was if I went and got it with her. The more we learned about it, we both had no intention of ever getting it because of our (different) preexisting conditions lined up alongside what side effectswereknown at the time, so there was no way in hell we would take the risk.



I guess the answer is several paragraphs of cope.


We already know it wouldn't be straight. Square peg in a round hole, and all.

And adding onto your point on wrong dosages, they were straight up givingeveryonethe wrong dose because it was a general, one-size-fits-all dosage across the board at the onset! When we hadzerodata or understanding of what the vaccines could do and totally inadequate testing, they just said, "nah, shoot up the same amount in that 100lb woman as that 350lb guy."

So much was handled unequivocallywrongwith the vaccines and the amount of overtly suspicious behavior across governments, politicians, and the pharmaceutical companies themselves really makes for a depressing look at how close we are to a corpocratic dystopia.
How much long termdata is usually collected before a vaccine is approved?

I've never been offered a personalized influenza vaccine dose. Or a personalized vaccine dose for anything else, either.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You're gonna say with a straight face that it wasn't rushed?

That there's nothing wrong with J&J?

That they had younger individuals taking the wrong dose?

That people weren't even taking Pfizer the right way?
Ok an honest question for you.
Why are you so passionate about this 1 particular issue?
This seems to be YOUR ISSUE.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
How much long termdata is usually collected before a vaccine is approved?

I've never been offered a personalized influenza vaccine dose. Or a personalized vaccine dose for anything else, either.
“A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution.”
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Originally Posted By InVentive44
“A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution.”
Soooo what do you do when there is a worldwide emergency, people are dropping like flies in NYC and a president presses for an Operation Warp Speed Solution?

What would president Inventive44 have done given that situation March 13th 2020?
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Originally Posted By InVentive44
“A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution.”
This has been covered, ad nauseum.

I'm referring to the length of phase 3 trials to acquire long term dataprior to FDA approval
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Soooo what do you do when there is a worldwide emergency, people are dropping like flies in NYC and a president presses for an Operation Warp Speed Solution?

What would president Inventive44 have done given that situation March 13th 2020?
Find treatments. Specifically focusing on medications used for decades with known safety profiles. Not use kidney destroying medicine. Not block access to treatments in order to shotgun "emergency authorization" for vaccines. Specifically focus on people AT FUKKING RISK instead of putting the fear of God into people masking their five year olds, shutting schools and play grounds down. Not actively kill the people at risk. Like Cuomo shoving Covid patients into nursing homes. BRB cutting hours available to shop so guess what you get to go to the store the same time as everyone else going through the retardation of plastic barriers and complete fukking theatre to appease the morons.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Develop a vaccine?

Also, source for bolded please. And don't bother linking sources that count the biker who died of injuries suffered in a motorcycle crash as a covid fatality.



That should be counted as criminal negligence - but it won't be, and vaxcucks have no issue with that.

They were, and still are, perfectly fine with considering people who weren't on board with taking part in the largest trial of an experimental therapy, to be subhuman.
I specifically wonder how many people died of the actual treatment that got jotted down as a COVID statistic. I had a friend die, 46, not obese, not diabetic, multiorgan failure started with kidneys. How many died from simple mistakes? Nobody's trying to figure that out cos "muh heros."
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Ok an honest question for you.
Why are you so passionate about this 1 particular issue?
This seems to be YOUR ISSUE.
How about the fact that you took the Pfizer jab the wrong way? How many recalls have there been with J&J? How effective is the vaccine a year later after getting it?

Oh, I forgot, the booster shot is like a Windows upgrade according to you.
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Originally Posted By InVentive44
“A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution.”
Covid sizzled out after about 2 years. Like a good chunk of viruses throughout history. Hard to make a profit, rolling out the jab 5 years later
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Soooo what do you do when there is a worldwide emergency, people are dropping like flies in NYC and a president presses for an Operation Warp Speed Solution?

What would president Inventive44 have done given that situation March 13th 2020?
Tell people to take precautions? Maybe not lie to them, and have them believe that wearing a mask protects them from getting it? That wearing latex gloves is pointless? That wearing a mask outdoors is pointless?

How did it go from a 14 day quarantine, to 10 days, and now 5 days?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
How did it go from a 14 day quarantine, to 10 days, and now 5 days?
The same way that vaccine efficacy went from "99%" to "lets not talk about it"

SCIENCE.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
The same way that vaccine efficacy went from "99%" to "lets not talk about it"

SCIENCE.
Elmo is now vaccinated for Covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/28/healt...ess/index.html

Was it safe? Was it the right decision?' I talked to our pediatrician so I could make the right choice," Louie said in the PSA. "I learned that Elmo getting vaccinated is the best way to keep himself, our friends, neighbors and everyone else healthy and enjoying the things they love."

Talk about despicable.....
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Elmo is now vaccinated for Covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/28/healt...ess/index.html

Was it safe? Was it the right decision?' I talked to our pediatrician so I could make the right choice," Louie said in the PSA. "I learned that Elmo getting vaccinated is the best way to keep himself, our friends, neighbors and everyone else healthy and enjoying the things they love."

Talk about despicable.....
Originally Posted By Johnez
Find treatments. Specifically focusing on medications used for decades with known safety profiles. Not use kidney destroying medicine. Not block access to treatments in order to shotgun "emergency authorization" for vaccines. Specifically focus on people AT FUKKING RISK instead of putting the fear of God into people masking their five year olds, shutting schools and play grounds down. Not actively kill the people at risk. Like Cuomo shoving Covid patients into nursing homes. BRB cutting hours available to shop so guess what you get to go to the store the same time as everyone else going through the retardation of plastic barriers and complete fukking theatre to appease the morons.
Good answer.

Since you are here, in case you missed it the CDC and FDA promised specific actions to be taken to monitor for safety. And then they didn't do it.

Dr. Been on that if you want a walk through:



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At this link McCullough testifies to the TX Senate re: the mrna injections...says 40,000 deaths officially recorded and that the standard for "pulling biologics off the market is 50 deaths", says there is a global recall effort:



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There is a supposedly WHO pushed Gates backed move to remove the requirement for human testing for new formulas of the injections. The FDA committee was supposed to meet on this today. They are calling it the "Future Framework"

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...ovid-vaccines/

Also, as part of their fiddling with the "recipe" reportedly Pfizer is looking at doubling their dosage up to increase the antibody levels in response to the injections, though their isn't a strong relationship between the temporary antibody increase + protection and we have seen that there WAS a higher incidence of myocarditis with the higher dose vax [moderna] vs. the lower dose vax [pfizer].

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I had read here and there about "the mrna isn't real mrna" and the term "transfection", however I didn't understand what that could potentially mean. IMO this is worth the click. They compare the fake mrna in the injections to fiberglass vs. regular mrna as wood.



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And Biden AGAIN stated that there will be "another pandemic". Hasn't said it in a "eventually it is bound to happen" sort of way, but in the "we need to get funding in place" as in this is "coming soon". So that's fun...

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Kinda weird how Elon pinned a tweet about birth rates and then disappeared off Twitter. Probably just a coincidence.
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