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post 1669351273 10-12-2022, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Serious question for the “WWIII is about to start” crew.

WWIII with whom? See the thing about the world wars in they were across the world with dozens of countries involved.

Who is joining Russia? Or you think Russia can take on all of NATO and the US when they haven’t even been able to take over Ukraine?
I think they mean nuclear war when they say ww3, as in a war that will effect the entire globe. Cus russia has no allies willing to join the fight against nato, and in a conventional fight russia stands absolutely zero chance.

Nato would be in moscow in a month.

There is no logical reason why either scenario ever happens though. Russia wouldnt launch nukes at the west because of failure in ukraine, nato wouldnt launch nukes at russia because of ukraine, and neither side would directly attack each other’s territory.

People fail to realize what a powrful motivator (demotivator i guess) mutually assured destruction actually it… claiming that russia will get into a hissy fit over losses in ukraine and destroy the world is nonsense.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
"Bu bu muh GDP PPP, muh industrial potential, GDP is a made up number,..."

Love his cope though
Vatniks crying about us spending all this money for ukraine. We spend 700+ billion per year on military. A few billion to expose and weaken our #1 geopolitical rival seems like a pretty good deal.
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You just know those people detained for the bridge attack are being tortured as we speak.
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Also, to the people saying that europe is not the US, well yes obviously, but what is nato? Why even have nato?

And if you want to dissolve nato, then you accept the fact that it would be okay for US national security to have europe and canada become allied away from the US, because that will inevitably happen if all you do is play isolationism.
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable
You just know those people detained for the bridge attack are being tortured as we speak.
Who was detained for that? Clearly whoever was on that truck was dead instantly. And obviously no foot soldier that they capture as a PoW wouldnt know anything about it.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Who was detained for that? Clearly whoever was on that truck was dead instantly. And obviously no foot soldier that they capture as a PoW wouldnt know anything about it.
"At the moment, five Russian citizens, and three citizens of Ukraine and Armenia, who participated in the preparation of the crime, have been detained," the FSB reported, "The investigation into the attack continues. All of its organizers and accomplices, including foreign nationals, will be prosecuted according to Russian law."

https://tass.com/politics/1521333
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Kremlin crew just doesn’t understand how much the West mogs them in terms of GDP. California alone is far more than double the GDP of Russia (it’s actually more than double Russia and Iran combined - just a neat stat for our Iranian propagandist).
That's absolutely not true.

Most of American GDP is fake.

Debt Driven, property driven, inflation drive GDP.

A haircut in Los Angeles can be 200 dollars, whereas in Cambodia it is 0.20 dollars. Has something of more value been produced. Obviously not.

Irasn and Russia both have massive oil and Gas supplies which is more real than Calinfornian fake GDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ies_by_exports

Exports is a great measure of an economy. Which puts the total US economy in line with Germany. China has double the size of your economy.
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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337


lol



chads
So this looks like Kherson bridge 2.0. Ukie retards (despite having all the resources of the west) can't actually destroy the bridge. Retard crew acts like this is the turning point of the war. Vatniks quietly fix the bridge and get back to killing Ukie retards with minimal effort.

But this is obviously a win for the retard crew.
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Originally Posted By ****inator


Even with minimal support Ukraine is winning from the rus.

Imagine if the west would up its support to 1% of their GDP.

Where's the persian vatnik coper?




^^^
We are broke. We don't have this money and it is being added on to our debt.
Originally Posted By exxtracool
I think they mean nuclear war when they say ww3,as in a war that will effect the entire globe. Cus russia has no allies willing to join the fight against nato, and in a conventional fight russia stands absolutely zero chance.

Nato would be in moscow in a month.

There is no logical reason why either scenario ever happens though. Russia wouldnt launch nukes at the west because of failure in ukraine, nato wouldnt launch nukes at russia because of ukraine, and neither side would directly attack each other’s territory.

People fail to realize what a powrful motivator (demotivator i guess) mutually assured destruction actually it… claiming that russia will get into a hissy fit over losses in ukraine and destroy the world is nonsense.
I don't see any reason we can't have a world war without involving a wide scale nuclear exchange.

At the root of conflict is a competition for resources. I don't think it would be too hard to make a solid case that multiple countries are already at war, albeit a financial one.
Originally Posted By exxtracool
Also, to the people saying that europe is not the US, well yes obviously, but what is nato? Why even have nato?

And if you want to dissolve nato, then you accept the fact that it would be okay for US national security to have europe and canada become allied away from the US, because that will inevitably happen if all you do is play isolationism.
It is the countries in Europe whose people are talking about wanting to leave NATO. And would it be that big of a loss? It is a military cooperation agreement, not an economic treaty.

The only countries I'm aware of that have made much effort to keep up their own defenses are the UK and France.
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post 1669353093 10-12-2022, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
"Bu bu muh GDP PPP, muh industrial potential, GDP is a made up number,..."

Love his cope though
All that money spent and your Ukie retards can't drive out some orcs using WWII equipment. Absolutely pathetic.

LOL at you trying to find anything to prove your team is winning. You ought to reflect on how emotional you've become.
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
So this looks like Kherson bridge 2.0.
Looks like someone forgot that said Kherson bridge has been fully out of commission and Russkies have been dicking around with ferries ever since it was blasted.

Good job monke man.
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Originally Posted By katya422
It is the countries in Europe whose people are talking about wanting to leave NATO. And would it be that big of a loss? It is a military cooperation agreement, not an economic treaty.

The only countries I'm aware of that have made much effort to keep up their own defenses are the UK and France.
Nobody is talking about leaving NATO in Europe and most members have upped their military spending after Trump's chimpout.
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After months of spinning the "Putin is crazy" narrative, they shamelessly do this:



LMAO I was like LMAO
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Originally Posted By ****inator
"Bu bu muh GDP PPP, muh industrial potential, GDP is a made up number,..."

Love his cope though
GDP is fake. What propotion of US GDP is debt driven?
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
All that money spent and your Ukie retards can't drive out some orcs using WWII equipment. Absolutely pathetic.

LOL at you trying to find anything to prove your team is winning. You ought to reflect on how emotional you've become.
Seems you're a bit mad vatnik friend. It's okay, I'm sure poots will attack some apartment building with missiles again to make you happy.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
A haircut in Los Angeles can be 200 dollars, whereas in Cambodia it is 0.20 dollars. Has something of more value been produced. Obviously not.
The poverty mindset among you guys is amazing. I guarantee a $200 haircut in LA and a quarter cut in Cambodia are nothing like the same. My wife used to get cuts that cost that much, you get a shampoo and head massage (something women like a lot apparently), Champaign, whatever styling you like, probably a comp beauty product, etc., Is it worth it? Dunno’ but complaining the two makes my point better than I could.

Kremlin crew doesn’t understand how much richer we are than you.
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Originally Posted By katya422



We are broke. We don't have this money and it is being added on to our debt.
You're really missing the big picture here. 0.2%/GDP to weaken one if not the biggest geopolitical enemy and secure europe + the importance of Ukraine in many ways.

For example:

Ukraine has 0.4% of the Earth's surface but about 5% of the world's mineral resources. Ukraine is a country with a developed mineral resource base, the diversity of which is due to the peculiarities of the geology of its territory

I can go into greater detail but takes too much time.

Conclusion: a cost of 0.2%/GDP is NOTHING for what you get back.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
The poverty mindset among you guys is amazing. I guarantee a $200 haircut in LA and a quarter cut in Cambodia are nothing like the same. My wife used to get cuts that cost that much, you get a shampoo and head massage (something women like a lot apparently), Champaign, whatever styling you like, probably a comp beauty product, etc., Is it worth it? Dunno’ but complaining the two makes my point better than I could.

Kremlin crew doesn’t understand how much richer we are than you.
Yeah rub it in. I'm sure that helps bridge the gap and prevent war. If the US had spent a fraction of what it has spent on this war on helping Russia after the collapse of the USSR, Russia would have probably been a free and prosperous nation looking something like Germany or Poland. Great job! We whine about foreign aid, and then spend obscene amounts more on "military solutions" to problems that arise precisely due to the lack of that aid. We helped Poland. We didn't help Russia.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
GDP is fake.What propotion of US GDP is debt driven?


Another one for the vatnik cope bingo board
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How's the Nazi Ucraine counter offensive going

Are we in Moscow yet
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Originally Posted By kostapoulos
How's the Nazi Ucraine counter offensive going

Are we in Moscow yet
Fuark one of my favorite vatnik bros, how's Bakhmut going? 2 more weeks?
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[QUOTE=katya422 post_id=1669353003][img]https://media.tenor.com/-0bMZKtJER0AAAAM/you-high-nadia-vulvokov.gif[/

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We are broke. We don't have this money and it is being added on to our debt.




I don't see any reason we can't have a world war without involving a wide scale nuclear exchange.

At the root of conflict is a competition for resources. I don't think it would be too hard to make a solid case that multiple countries are already at war, albeit a financial one.



It is the countries in Europe whose people are talking about wanting to leave NATO. And would it be that big of a loss? It is a military cooperation agreement, not an economic treaty.

The only countries I'm aware of that have made much effort to keep up their own defenses are the UK and France.[/QUOTE]Economic wars or proxy wars are not the same as a direct military conflict between nato and rusaia though. The argument is that a ditect military conflict would inevitably result in MAD, idk if that would for sure be the case but i doubt either side is willing to find out.



And you didnt really answer my question: would it be in USAs best interest in terms of national security if nato were to dissolve for isolationist reasons?
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Originally Posted By ****inator


Another one for the vatnik cope bingo board
Say no more

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Originally Posted By ****inator
Read the article putin lover

"Cranes have been shown lifting the fuel tanker wagon wreckage off the Crimea-bound rail line. It remains to be seen how the steel girders will perform under train travel. It is likely the trains will be instructed to go slow to reduce vibratory effects, and that wagons will not be fully-loaded."

Doubt it will support transport of tanks or other heavy equipment
There is no telling how much actual damage was done, the heat literally melted steel beams so the damage to the pillars which can't be seen is going to be insane. Vibrations will make it crack and fall, I would not want to be the 4-5th person going over it with a heavy load.
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When's the next aerial strike across Kiev, Lvov, etc

Looking forward to it once north Korea sends missiles
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Originally Posted By ****inator
You're really missing the big picture here. 0.2%/GDP to weaken one if not the biggest geopolitical enemy and secure europe + the importance of Ukraine in many ways.

For example:

Ukraine has 0.4% of the Earth's surface but about 5% of the world's mineral resources. Ukraine is a country with a developed mineral resource base, the diversity of which is due to the peculiarities of the geology of its territory

I can go into greater detail but takes too much time.

Conclusion: a cost of 0.2%/GDP is NOTHING for what you get back.
It looks as though Russia has secured that area and is charged with taking it back.
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Russia is modifying 800 T-62 tanks for the war in Ukraine. This means that all newer T-64, T-72 and T-80 tanks are over, and new ones cannot be produced quickly. Rate the situation of the tank factory in the video, by the way

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