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post 1685295543 06-25-2023, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
So does this mean the covid vaccine will never give one acquired immunity?
All of the available covid vaccines confer acquired immunity.
post 1685295583 06-25-2023, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
All of the available covid vaccines confer acquired immunity.
acquired immunity

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A type of immunity that develops when a person’s immune system responds to a foreign substance or microorganism, or that occurs after a person receives antibodies from another source.

https://www.cancer.gov/publications/...ired-immunity#

Based off that definition, when would you say we will see this occurring with the covid vaccine & boosters?
post 1685295613 06-25-2023, 04:33 PM
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I cummed in my own mouth to simulate sex. incel gotta do what I can
post 1685295683 06-25-2023, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
1.) yes vaccines exist

2.) are you immune to Covid if you get the Covid “vaccine”
You have acquired immunity to covid if you've been inoculated, either by vaccination or infection.
3.) the vastly higher survival rates are probably much more closely tied to better nutrition and access to decent healthcare as well as other basics like clean drinking water and other things. Do you think that forcing children and adolescents to be injected dozens of times before the age of 18 with substances that we know are neurotoxic has lead to an increase to neurological disorders? Do you think those dozens of injections which are designed to illicit an unnatural immune response have lead to an increase in autoimmune disorders?
Do you have any evidence that first world immunization schedules result in higher rates of autoimmune disease?

Edit to add- to answer your earlier question, I got the greater than five year mark from the medical community. That is what is considered a study of “longterm” effects. So again, how do we have longterm studies on something that has existed for less than five years?
I'll trust you, bro.
post 1685295733 06-25-2023, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Same definition..

acquired immunity

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A type of immunity that develops when a person’s immune system responds to a foreign substance or microorganism, or that occurs after a person receives antibodies from another source.

https://www.cancer.gov/publications/...ired-immunity#

Based off that definition, when would you say we will see this occurring with the covid vaccine & boosters?
The pharmacokinetics suggest 7-10 days post-inoculation.
post 1685295773 06-25-2023, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The pharmacokinetics suggest 7-10 days post-inoculation.
I’m not seeing that to be the case when we look at vaccination/deaths
post 1685295793 06-25-2023, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
acquired immunity

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A type of immunity that develops when a person’s immune system responds to a foreign substance or microorganism, or that occurs after a person receives antibodies from another source.

https://www.cancer.gov/publications/...ired-immunity#

Based off that definition, when would you say we will see this occurring with the covid vaccine & boosters?
You're aware of the data demonstrating development of antibodies and t-cells in response to covid vaccines, right?
post 1685295823 06-25-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
I’m not seeing that to be the case when we look at vaccination/deaths
Antibody titers

Cell assays.
post 1685295863 06-25-2023, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You're aware of the data demonstrating development of antibodies and t-cells in response to covid vaccines, right?
Unfortunately I’m not seeing that data pan out to the real world.
post 1685296173 06-25-2023, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Unfortunately I’m not seeing that data pan out to the real world.
Can you share some support for the claim that covid vaccines do not lead to development of antibodies and t-cells outside of immunocompromised individuals?
post 1685296563 06-25-2023, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
That's funny because Fauci isn't a governor. The governors shut the country down by executive orders. They seem to have blamed an advisor to distract from their own responsibility. A politician would NEVER do that. Would they, Barbie? Barbie discovers planet Earth!
Lol you're so blind with your Fauci crush that you don't understand how shiit works at all do you.

Here, let me help you..

Fauci: "Horrific black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM! We need to quarantine!

Government: "Everybody? The whole country? The economy even??"

Fauci: "Absolutely.. it's the only way we'll survive it."

Government: "Well... ok."

Fauci: "Celebrity status - achieved."
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
post 1685296813 06-25-2023, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
I told you, I'm better at being a nazi than nazis. The left always did concentration camps and mass executions better because we would never do it over stupid chit like race. Much better to just wipe out chitbags.We really do need a final solution to get rid of antivaxxers. Srs.

We should try reeducation camps aka schools and try to teach them basic immunology.
Why?

You've got all your vaccines and boosters, and would probably beg for more if you thought you could get them. Probably even have all your blood drained out and replaced with hot delicious Fauci Fluid.

And you're certainly still quarantined, so Imma go out on a limb and guess you'll be safe.

So WTF do you care if anybody is unvaxxed?
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
post 1685296833 06-25-2023, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Can you share some support for the claim that covid vaccines do not lead to development of antibodies and t-cells outside of immunocompromised individuals?
Wow that was a mouthful, do you have a link for that specific claim?

You claimed the covid vaccine confirmed acquired immunity, I'm asking when we can start seeing this immunity to take effect?

post 1685296943 06-25-2023, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Wow that was a mouthful, do you have a link for that specific claim?

You claimed the covid vaccine confirmed acquired immunity, I'm asking when we can start seeing this immunity to take effect?
I said confer, not confirm.

You posted a link defining acquired immunity.

Did you read it?

The picture you posted has nothing to do with acquired immunity

Acquired immunity is the development of antibodies and t-cells.

Covid vaccines lead to development of antibodies and t-cells. I shared a reference.

If your claim is that covid vaccines do not lead to development of antibodies and t-cells, please share some support.
post 1685297103 06-25-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You posted a link defining acquired immunity.

Did you read it?

The picture you posted has nothing to do with acquired immunity

Acquired immunity is the development of antibodies and t-cells.

Covid vaccines lead to development of antibodies and t-cells. I shared a reference.

If your claim is that covid vaccines do not lead to development of antibodies and t-cells, please share some support.
You claimed that the covid vaccine confirms acquired immunity, I’m asking when are we going to see this immunity take effect ?



acquired immunity

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A type of IMMUNITY that develops when a person’s immune system responds to a foreign substance or microorganism, or that occurs after a person receives antibodies from another source.


The picture confirms that vaccination does not lead to acquired immunity
post 1685297313 06-25-2023, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I said confer, not confirm.

You posted a link defining acquired immunity.

Did you read it?

The picture you posted has nothing to do with acquired immunity

Acquired immunity is the development of antibodies and t-cells.

Covid vaccines lead to development of antibodies and t-cells. I shared a reference.

If your claim is that covid vaccines do not lead to development of antibodies and t-cells, please share some support.
And then there's this fruit lol.

Almost 15k posts with half of them defending covid, and the other half defending his tranny and drag freaks airing out their jock itch in front of children.
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post 1685297453 06-25-2023, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I've seen school suspensions, but never exile, over vaccination status.
Yes we have not yet reached the point opie would like to bring us to
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
post 1685297663 06-25-2023, 05:16 PM
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[QUOTE=Paul Kreul post_id=1685297103]You claimed that the covid vaccine confirms acquired immunity, I’m asking when are we going to see this immunity take effect ?



acquired immunity

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A type of IMMUNITY that develops when a person’s immune system responds to a foreign substance or microorganism, or that occurs after a person receives antibodies from another source.


The picture confirms that vaccination does not lead to acquired immunity[/QUOTE]No

I said covid vaccines [b]confer/b] acquired immunity, which is the development of antibodies and t-cells.

The picture shows neither antibody titers nor t-cell counts.
post 1685297743 06-25-2023, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Yes we have not yet reached the point opie would like to bring us to
So it was a strawman or non-sequitur?
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Why do you think doctors would knowingly inject kids with substances known to be neurotoxic in the doses administered? Does that make any fking sense? Antivaxxers are legit the most retarded subhumans...
Why do you think doctors would knowingly hand out amphetamines to kids like candy just so pharmaceutical companies could take in billions in profits? Does that make any fking sense? People who blindly believe the current healthcare system that prioritizes profit over health are legit the most retarded subhumans.
post 1685297803 06-25-2023, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And then there's this fruit lol.

Almost 15k posts with half of them defending covid, and the other half defending his tranny and drag freaks airing out their jock itch in front of children.
It's interesting how only those who challenge or question unsupportable Kreulian theories and interpretations are targeted.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
So it was a strawman or non-sequitur?
Mild hyperbole
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
post 1685297893 06-25-2023, 05:22 PM
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[QUOTE=J.L.C. post_id=1685297663]No

I said covid vaccines [b]confer/b] acquired immunity, which is the development of antibodies and t-cells.

The picture shows neither antibody titers nor t-cell counts.[/QUOTE]The problem is we continue to see the vaccinated dying at an unprecedented rate..so how is the vaccine beneficial?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You have acquired immunity to covid if you've been inoculated, either by vaccination or infection.



Do you have any evidence that first world immunization schedules result in higher rates of autoimmune disease?





I'll trust you, bro.
There is blatantly clear evidence that autoimmune disorders have increased in the past 20 years. Again, are you saying that giving dozens of injections that are designed to illicit an unnatural immune response to people before they turn 18 has not caused any autoimmune disorders?



If you trust me regarding the definition of longterm studies then you are admitting that you were wrong, so thanks for that.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
There is blatantly clear evidence that autoimmune disorders have increased in the past 20 years. Again, are you saying that giving dozens of injections that are designed to illicit an unnatural immune response to people before they turn 18 has not caused any autoimmune disorders?



If you trust me regarding the definition of longterm studies then you are admitting that you were wrong, so thanks for that.
Can you share the blatant vaccines bad evidence?
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Originally Posted By Paul
The problem is we continue to see the vaccinated dying at an unprecedented rate..so how is the vaccine beneficial?
Dunno.

Are you gonna support the claim that the vaccines don't lead to development of antibodies and t-cells?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Dunno.

Are you gonna support the claim that the vaccines don't lead to development of antibodies and t-cells?
The covid vaccine does not produce acquired immunity, that is my stance..as you stated above…see post #162
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Originally Posted By Paul
The covid vaccine does not produce acquired immunity, that is my stance..as you stated above…see post #162
Can you share some support?

There is ample evidence of both antibody and t-cell development (aka acquired immunity) following administration of the available covid vaccines.

How do you refute it?

Post #162 is a heckle but at least specifies sterilizing immunity.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Mild hyperbole
Fair
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's interesting how only those who challenge or question unsupportable Kreulian theories and interpretations are targeted.
Tell us again how bad those scantily clad cheerleaders and Hooters waitresses piss you off bro.
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