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Thread: Chris Hayes Show Last Night - Explains Trumpers in a Nutshell

post 1690400573 09-20-2023, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩
Why are the accusations only coming out now, Pat? Why not 15 years ago when he was a favourite guest on the British MSM? Why not 10 years ago when he was the cool guy dating Katy Perry and starring in the latest hollywood production? Is it just a coincidence the timing of them coming out *after* he started attacking the modern left's dogmas?
To counter this: What about Danny Masterson, who had his crimes hid for 20 years before coming out (and he isn't pushing anti-establishment ideas)?

IMO, wait and see. I think it's suspect for certain but let's see how credible these accusations are. If they are hot air, that does make it seem like this is fabricated for 'some' reason. If they have bite to them though, maybe Brand is just a bad guy.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
It isn't even worth responding to the clown. I have avoided doing so for months and I fell into his trap.

Not again. He is an older gay man who gets his jollies posting on here.....trolling. And being a sexual groomer of children.

F this guy.
Yeah i mean im down to entertain liberal world views for the purpose of debate but these child fukkers are a bridge too far. The only real debate to be had with them is how many can fit into a helicopter
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Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩
Why are the accusations only coming out now, Pat? Why not 15 years ago when he was a favourite guest on the British MSM? Why not 10 years ago when he was the cool guy dating Katy Perry and starring in the latest hollywood production? Is it just a coincidence the timing of them coming out *after* he started attacking the modern left's dogmas?
Just to be clear, none of them 'came out', the media began hunting for rape accusers as soon as he began wrong thinking
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
The wannabe rapist cried and said how much he loves his beer... spare me lol.
What evidence is there that Kavanaugh tired to rape other than a woman’s word?
Are you in favor of vilifying someone based on someone else’s word with zero evidence attached?
Weird you don’t call Biden a potential rapist even though he has an accusation of sexual assault against him?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Yeah i mean im down to entertain liberal world views for the purpose of debate but these child fukkers are a bridge too far. The only real debate to be had with them is how many can fit into a helicopter
Lauren Boebert is the only pervert here doing sexual stuff in front of kids and you guys support her lol. Maybe she can get a helicopter ride? After all it's only Trumpers being arrested LOL
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Look at how they tried to destroy Joe Rogan after he was accused of spreading "misinformation."

Luckily he weathered the Strom.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
So because Amber Heard is a crazy woman no women should be believed?

And what's with Trumpers here literally quoting me saying wait for the evidence and then making an accusation I support the complete opposite?

It's almost as if these people should watch the video in the OP..
No, all women should be believed. Tara Reade included. Uncle Joe the sexual assaulter. RAPEYPat, why do you support a sexual abuser/ assaulter?
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Skipped reading most of the thread


Just wanted to know how many rapists have govts trying to demonitize their content platform which is critical of the govt?

Oh Andrew Tate and russel brand back to back with the same UK trying to force it through. Do they investigate all rape allegations like this?
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Guy told a 15 year old on bbc radio she should have a sex themed party for her 16th birthday. Doesn't mean all the allegations are true but he's a pretty creepy guy
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
The difference is the right worships a man (Donald Trump); the left is about ideals.
It is always projection with the left. You raise up any authority figure to godlike status and bow down before them. People on the right are into Donald Trump because he bucks the system. They rally behind him because he proclaims to bring us back to the ideals they hold to still, despite being told those values are outdated. Ideals on the left are just whatever talking point is handed from liberal politician to liberal media spokesperson.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
"People who are distrustful of traditional sources of knowledge or authority and then figures like Russell Brand or Donald Trump using that distrust to their advantage and they tell their audience "you're right, all those other people are lying to you they can't be trusted they're corrupt, rigged, I am the one to tell you the truth, I am the only one to tell you the truth, I am the only one you can trust. It's me and that's it". They cultivate that distrust to remove any connection their audience has to other sources of information. That could be the so-called mainstream media, or the establishment, or the Deep State or whatever derogatory term they come up with next; the bureaucrats at the Federal Food and Drug Administration. The result of this process, it's playing out day by day in front of us, is huge groups of citizens, I mean millions and millions of people, who are so deeply entrenched in this distrust, they're essentially unreachable from those "traditional" sources of authority. They are trapped in this bubble of skepticism and conspiracy theories and there's no obvious way to pierce it."
I love it. Mainstream media proclaims if you don't listen to mainstream media you are bad/dumb/misinformed. Meanwhile you project this to come from the mouth of Trump or RB. Have you ever listened to either of them? Neither censor the other side. Neither ask you to not listen to other sources. In fact, they encourage you to listen to them so you can see how stupid and illogical most of it is.

RB mocks the drug companies for profiting like 1800s robber barrens during covid and for their explicit bias in pushing the vaccines because they make boatloads of money. He mocks media that takes money from these groups and then says whatever the drug companies tell them to say on air. He is unbeholden to these corporate influences because he isn't taking their money.

Also, lol at the fact that you want to wait until his day in court while you are clearly accusing him of doing everything that was said. Dude was demonetized from his job (youtube) because of accusations. Credible or not, where is the trial there? Where is the innocent until proven guilty? They have already convicted him and taken away his source of income.
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
It is always projection with the left. You raise up any authority figure to godlike status and bow down before them. People on the right are into Donald Trump because he bucks the system. They rally behind him because he proclaims to bring us back to the ideals they hold to still, despite being told those values are outdated. Ideals on the left are just whatever talking point is handed from liberal politician to liberal media spokesperson.
Trump doesn't have any ideals lol
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
I dont know why you are having trouble understanding the rationale that bringing up serious allegations of being raped just before a political situation like appointing a SC is skeptical timing. I promise you it's not that weird to at least wonder why someone would get raped and never say anything about it until such a moment where it would be very, very politically advantageous for their party. Especially after everything we've seen?

Even you fail the rational litmus test. You legitimately think anything negative occuring during the Biden administration is Trumps fault and anything that was remotely positive during Trumps tenure was due to Obama. It's comical.

Ford could have easily had the same mindset as you in that it's justifying to do such a thing if it means stopping the devil. The point is that beyond a reasonable doubt seems to not hold any water with you.
1. Becoming a SC nominee puts you in the public spotlight, so not surprisingly, people who have been assaulted by someone they now see in the spotlight compels them sometimes to come forward out of duty to the public. Most of the time they don't want to do it and stand to gain nothing other than coming forward to tell the truth.

2. Nonsense you just made up.

3. Funny how I said multiple times already in this thread to see all the evidence and reserve judgment on guilt or innocence until then.

And it's funny to me that we're 5 pages into this thread and people are still talking about Russell Brand sexual assault allegations when this thread is actually about people who get easily conned (by people like Russell Brand, Joe Rogan, Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, etc.)
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Skipped reading most of the thread


Just wanted to know how many rapists have govts trying to demonitize their content platform which is critical of the govt?

Oh Andrew Tate and russel brand back to back with the same UK trying to force it through. Do they investigate all rape allegations like this?
See above.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
1. Becoming a SC nominee puts you in the public spotlight, so not surprisingly, people who have been assaulted by someone they now see in the spotlight compels them sometimes to come forward out of duty to the public. Most of the time they don't want to do it and stand to gain nothing other than coming forward to tell the truth.
He was a federal judge you simpleton.. He was ALREADY in the public spotlight.
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
And it's funny to me that we're 5 pages into this thread and people are still talking about Russell Brand sexual assault allegations when this thread is actually about people who get easily conned (by people like Russell Brand, Joe Rogan, Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, etc.)
Or even by...



LMAO!! You still don't see it, do you groomer.
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Someone who has spent years defending tranny groomers and making excuses for Dementia Joe talking about others being easily conned

Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
If you don't outright believe these allegations and want to wait for the evidence, why did you ask if having sex with a 16 year old makes you a groomer?

pls respond
pls respond x2

Why are all libs such slimy little fuks? It's disgusting srs
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
No, all women should be believed. Tara Reade included. Uncle Joe the sexual assaulter. RAPEYPat, why do you support a sexual abuser/ assaulter?
Her allegations seem very credible, and it's a shame they aren't getting more attention because any sexual assault is a serious crime. I think the reason that the cultist propaganda merchants aren't focusing more attention on it is because Biden more or less did what Trump is on record as admitting to doing repeatedly (i.e. "grabbed her by the pussy"...), so it would be difficult to politicize without blowback.
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And of course, Rapey Pat brings up that leading hard left Blasey Ford just in time for her book release early next year entitled

"I voted for Clinton and cried when Trump won"
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Her allegations seem very credible, and it's a shame they aren't getting more attention because any sexual assault is a serious crime. I think the reason that the cultist propaganda merchants aren't focusing more attention on it is because Biden more or less did what Trump is on record as admitting to doing repeatedly (i.e."grabbed her by the pussy"...), so it would be difficult to politicize without blowback.
You slimy fuks always leave out the line just before that,"THEY LET YOU DO IT""THEY LET YOU DO IT".
Britannica Dictionary definition of LET

: to allow or permit (someone or something) to do something
Also, you call other people "cultists" but gleefully laugh when a 22 year old kills himself because he's on the "wrong" team?

The lack of self awareness is incredible.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Her allegations seem very credible, and it's a shame they aren't getting more attention because any sexual assault is a serious crime. I think the reason that the cultist propaganda merchants aren't focusing more attention on it is because Biden more or less did what Trump is on record as admitting to doing repeatedly (i.e. "grabbed her by the pussy"...), so it would be difficult to politicize without blowback.
Strong words from the one who admitted he'd let an old man feel up his daughter.

Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
You have kids, right? if you saw someone do that to your kid and she reacted the same way as that child - would you be ok with that?
Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
I would just make sure she was ok, but I wouldn't be really concerned about it.
In before counter-accusations.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
1. Becoming a SC nominee puts you in the public spotlight, so not surprisingly, people who have been assaulted by someone they now see in the spotlight compels them sometimes to come forward out of duty to the public. Most of the time they don't want to do it and stand to gain nothing other than coming forward to tell the truth.
He was in the public spotlight, already. Once again, dont you at least UNDERSTAND the argument that the longer you wait to report a rape the less it will be believed,especiallyif its at a critical moment that may help your political party(in which she was an active lefty)? FFS lol
2. Nonsense you just made up.
You did, though. You responded about approval numbers or something when I asked if you thought this.
3. Funny how I said multiple times already in this thread to see all the evidence and reserve judgment on guilt or innocence until then.
You are saying Kavanaugh was guilty before any evidence in #1. Wtf lol
And it's funny to me that we're 5 pages into this thread and people are still talking about Russell Brand sexual assault allegations when this thread is actually about people who get easily conned (by people like Russell Brand, Joe Rogan, Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, etc.)
Yeah yeah the whole, "anyone you dont like is a conman and the people supporting them are conned." just lol. I dont know how you arent tired of that old shtick, yet. Well, Pat, it seems you were conned by Christine Ford, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Rachel Maddow, etc.!!

How about we move past this 3rd grade mindset and address the issue at hand that it seems like you are in favor of calling someone a failed rapist with ZERO evidence because you just want to believe it so, for politics.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
1. Becoming a SC nominee puts you in the public spotlight, so not surprisingly, people who have been assaulted by someone they now see in the spotlight compels them sometimes to come forward out of duty to the public. Most of the time they don't want to do it and stand to gain nothing other than coming forward to tell the truth.

2. Nonsense you just made up.

3. Funny how I said multiple times already in this thread to see all the evidence and reserve judgment on guilt or innocence until then.

And it's funny to me that we're 5 pages into this thread and people are still talking about Russell Brand sexual assault allegations when this thread is actually about people who get easily conned (by people like Russell Brand, Joe Rogan, Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, etc.)
I love how you people despise people like Joe Rogan, someone who endorsed Bernie Sanders for ****s sake, just because he has a different opinion when it came to the Rona and trannies......
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
He was in the public spotlight, already. Once again, dont you at least UNDERSTAND the argument that the longer you wait to report a rape the less it will be believed,especiallyif its at a critical moment that may help your political party(in which she was an active lefty)? FFS lol



You did, though. You responded about approval numbers or something when I asked if you thought this.



You are saying Kavanaugh was guilty before any evidence in #1. Wtf lol



Yeah yeah the whole, "anyone you dont like is a conman and the people supporting them are conned." just lol. I dont know how you arent tired of that old shtick, yet. Well, Pat, it seems you were conned by Christine Ford, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Rachel Maddow, etc.!!

How about we move past this 3rd grade mindset and address the issue at hand that it seems like you are in favor of calling someone a failed rapist with ZERO evidence because you just want to believe it so, for politics.
1. No he was NOT in the public spotlight. No one had a clue who he was before he got nominated for the SC.

2. Not true.

3. Not true.

4. People who are easily conned always react this way - complete denial. I mean who looks in the mirror and says you know what.. I might be getting conned here. If so, that would make me look like a complete idiot. Nah... can't be. And yet here we are with and entire third of the country (minimum) buying into proven lies and bullchit peddled by people like Russell Brand, Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Alex Jones, and on and on and on and on....

And for the record, your boy Trump said Ford was a very credible witness. I thought so too. But feel free to provide any LEGIT evidence or new info that Rapey Brett didn't do what she claimed (since we're not a court of law and don't have the burden of proof).
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I love how you people despise people like Joe Rogan, someone who endorsed Bernie Sanders for ****s sake, just because he has a different opinion when it came to the Rona and trannies......
I don't despise Joe Rogan, I just think he tells people nonsense by doing his "resurch" on the internet. He's simply tapping into that easy con man money the rest like Alex Jones got rich off of.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
1. No he was NOT in the public spotlight.
Just because YOU didn't see him on tv doesn't mean he wasn't in the public spotlight Pat. For fux sake he was a federal judge lol.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Just because YOU didn't see him on tv doesn't mean he wasn't in the public spotlight Pat. For fux sake he was a federal judge lol.
Derp. The national public had ZERO clue who he was prior to being nominated.

Inb4 you keep repeating yourself like an stimming autist.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Derp.The national public had ZERO clue who he was prior to being nominated.

Inb4 you keep repeating yourself like an stimming autist.
LMFAO!!!! PotatoPat strikes again lol.

Pat, he was a FEDERAL JUDGE. Just because you didn't see Whoopi queefing about him on The View has fukall to do with anything lol. Hole-E-****.. Wow.

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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
I don't despise Joe Rogan, I just think he tells people nonsense by doing his "resurch" on the internet. He's simply tapping into that easy con man money the rest like Alex Jones got rich off of.
Wow that's cool and stuff but I was just wondering, if you don't outright believe these allegations and want to wait for the evidence, why did you ask if having sex with a 16 year old makes you a groomer?
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Trump doesn't have any ideals lol
Trump is the cudgel that those with ideals are using to break down the spread of the garbage that has infected our country. When you have people that won't believe any news source except mainstream media, but then mainstream media declines to present anything other than one side of a political agenda you need someone like Trump to bust a hole in the wall.

Strong nitpicking and not addressing anything else, but I get it. Address the low hanging fruit and make a chitty comment rather than debate actual logic and facts because you have none.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
To counter this: What about Danny Masterson, who had his crimes hid for 20 years before coming out (and he isn't pushing anti-establishment ideas)?

IMO, wait and see. I think it's suspect for certain but let's see how credible these accusations are. If they are hot air, that does make it seem like this is fabricated for 'some' reason. If they have bite to them though, maybe Brand is just a bad guy.
It's well understood that victims of sexual assault struggle with guilt and will often wait to report the crime. Some take longer than others, many never report it.

It's also a common strategy for abusers to use this fact as a defense strategy to sow doubt.

Smearing someone with labels of rapist or groomer is also a common strategy for retards to use against their perceived "enemies".

So you're exactly right, people are free to speculate but unless someone is part of the victim or accusers family or defense team, it's best to wait and see what the jury says after seeing the evidence.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Derp. The national public had ZERO clue who he was prior to being nominated.
Dying over here lol.. DYING!

In PotatoPat's world "public figures" don't exist unless Richard Mandow or Whoopi Goldberg tells him they do!

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
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