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08-16-2024, 12:51 PM
#121
Originally Posted By coast2coastam⏩
I actually think most people think the bolded is a huge deal. Lefties love to talk about righties 'bailing out mega corps' and sending money to foreign countries but they'rethe biggest perpetrators of this.
Crazy how this is such a big issue,
but sending money to Israel or bailing out mega corps isn't
. The money ends up going from the government to banks anyway.
0bama was the biggest offender bailing out giant auto corporations and big banks. Lefties are the biggest perps for sending money to other countries. Let's send another $4 billion to Ukraine! Now we must pledge another trillion to help other countries fight climate change!
Fukn disingenuous lefty *******s. They keep preaching about taking care of the 'small guy' while bailing out billion dollar corporations and sending billions and over the years trillions to other countries.
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08-16-2024, 01:07 PM
#122
Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
Exactly.
Again, your 'solution' doesn't fix a single thing. The problem still exists. As repeatedly pointed out, housing cost will just increase, people say by 25k but it'll be significantly higher than that now that there's more competition with people that have down payments from their fellow taxpayers. Because of the increased home prices, now their mortgage is more unaffordable. The cycle continues. Your view is such a simplistic and moronic one, that it'll actually make the issues worse. We need to actually FIX the issue as I already outlined.
Edit: and my savings is being drained because of socialists like you.
Edit: and my savings is being drained because of socialists like you.
Not sure in America but here we need minimum 10% down, 20% to avoid an insurance requirement. So that 25K gets you 250k, the prices won't directly increase but they sure as **** will climb BIGLY
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08-16-2024, 01:14 PM
#123
Inb4 illegals get all the housing money if she gets elected.
Kamala said:
Kamala said:
There would be "more generous support for first-generation homeowners" according to a preview of the remarks Harris is set to deliver Friday.
08-16-2024, 01:59 PM
#124
Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
Yep enough bailing out of Foreign countries and Big Corps
I actually think most people think the bolded is a huge deal. Lefties love to talk about righties 'bailing out mega corps' and sending money to foreign countries but they'rethe biggest perpetrators of this.
0bama was the biggest offender bailing out giant auto corporations and big banks. Lefties are the biggest perps for sending money to other countries. Let's send another $4 billion to Ukraine! Now we must pledge another trillion to help other countries fight climate change!
Fukn disingenuous lefty *******s. They keep preaching about taking care of the 'small guy' while bailing out billion dollar corporations and sending billions and over the years trillions to other countries.
0bama was the biggest offender bailing out giant auto corporations and big banks. Lefties are the biggest perps for sending money to other countries. Let's send another $4 billion to Ukraine! Now we must pledge another trillion to help other countries fight climate change!
Fukn disingenuous lefty *******s. They keep preaching about taking care of the 'small guy' while bailing out billion dollar corporations and sending billions and over the years trillions to other countries.
Time to bail out aspiring home buyers.
08-16-2024, 02:32 PM
#125
Will OliverHomeless finally be able to get into the housing market? Lmao
Originally Posted By ltsOgre⏩
Lol wut
I have no sympathy for poor people (I hate poor people).
Interest rate cuts will help bring down home prices
because Biden cooled inflation, but there's no way we should be handing out $25k in cash to them.
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08-16-2024, 02:35 PM
#126
i can see this inflating the prices of property even more. government gives $25k…prices increase by $40k due to demand
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08-16-2024, 02:44 PM
#127
Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Funny how when trust fund babies get $100k from their parents, it never seems to affect home prices
i can see this inflating the prices of property even more. government gives $25k…prices increase by $40k due to demand
08-16-2024, 02:45 PM
#128
Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
not sure what you're saying…maybe a few percent of get $100k from their parents.
Funny how when trust fund babies get $100k from their parents, it never seems to affect home prices
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08-16-2024, 02:46 PM
#129
Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
On average, it does affect house prices
Funny how when trust fund babies get $100k from their parents, it never seems to affect home prices
If you removed from the market everyone who was gifted money or loan guarantees, prices would be lower than they are.
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08-16-2024, 02:49 PM
#130
Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
Funny how when trust fund babies get $100k from their parents, it never seems to affect home prices
…. Well, that's not a mass policy where sellers KNOW everyone is getting it.
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08-16-2024, 02:54 PM
#131
Really interested in how they will define first generation home owner lol. What a ****ty idea, classic Lefty "plan".
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08-16-2024, 03:38 PM
#132
Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
I'm with you dude
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I sacrificed a f*cking sh*t ton in my early 20s and 30s for the sake of investing in my future.
Everyone else that didn't do that in the world is my competition. You are my competition. And I am yours. And all the lazy f*cks who didn't invest in their future are being elevated to our level without putting the work on the front end.
It's f*cking bullsh*t.
"They need help"
Of course they need help! They're f*cking losers! Let them lose!
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I sacrificed a f*cking sh*t ton in my early 20s and 30s for the sake of investing in my future.
Everyone else that didn't do that in the world is my competition. You are my competition. And I am yours. And all the lazy f*cks who didn't invest in their future are being elevated to our level without putting the work on the front end.
It's f*cking bullsh*t.
"They need help"
Of course they need help! They're f*cking losers! Let them lose!
you have wealth privilege, you can just pay more taxes to help us out.
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08-16-2024, 03:39 PM
#133
Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
Funny how when trust fund babies get $100k from their parents, it never seems to affect home prices
you think 100k is a trust fund baby? lmao maybe 100k quarterly. 100k lump sum isnt ****
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08-16-2024, 03:48 PM
#134
Originally Posted By coast2coastam⏩
Crazy how this is such a big issue, but sending money to Israel or bailing out mega corps isn't. The money ends up going from the government to banks anyway.
BOTH parties send money to israel and megacorps.
I dont see a way out of that. all democrats claim to want to help the "working class" but they are the ones who dumped the labor market with illegals, made megacorps "essential" during covid while literally banning small businesses from operating and oh on top of that continue to start wars in the middle east and give hand outs to israel and ukraine.
i would like to cut out all of that but since that option doesnt exist, lets atleast cut out the hand outs to lazy fuks here and and have an actual functioning ICE department.
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08-16-2024, 03:50 PM
#135
Originally Posted By Darkhare⏩
1st gen, 1st time
…. Well, that's not a mass policy where sellers KNOW everyone is getting it.
is kinda not everyone
08-16-2024, 03:52 PM
#136
Originally Posted By Visel⏩
If this does result in higher house prices as many are assuming, you win anyways
How does this always happen?
I finish paying off my student debt, then suddenly "student loan forgiveness" is a multi year talking point.
Now I put 20% down on a new construction, then suddenly "$25k down payment assistance" is gonna be a multi year talking point (if she gets elected / Trump wins but likes the idea too?).
I'm self made, no family help, yet everyone who is irresponsible gets the good chit from the government.
I finish paying off my student debt, then suddenly "student loan forgiveness" is a multi year talking point.
Now I put 20% down on a new construction, then suddenly "$25k down payment assistance" is gonna be a multi year talking point (if she gets elected / Trump wins but likes the idea too?).
I'm self made, no family help, yet everyone who is irresponsible gets the good chit from the government.
I haven’t read all the posts in this thread so not sure if anyone has yet reconciled the idea that this will increase house prices and yet people who already own houses are not coming out ahead despite not being directly handed the $25k. I’m going to assume people are just being silly and haven’t addressed this.
08-16-2024, 03:55 PM
#137
As a first time homebuyer myself waiting to buy, I don't want this. That's absurd.
The only way I could see that as part of a democrat plan is if they show us all the provisions of what makes you eligible. If it's like "Must have 780+ credit score, supporting income, low debt monthly payments, etc" then it could be something she could run on. The only time these things will push through is if they are precise with their stipulations because it automatically shows only a small percentage of the pool is eligible and the policy would at least seem in good faith.
Otherwise giving any first time homebuyer 25k for a down payment is economic suicide. Her economic plan is the most radical insanity I've seen yet. Not even Bernie was throwing out this kind of communist heat.
The only way I could see that as part of a democrat plan is if they show us all the provisions of what makes you eligible. If it's like "Must have 780+ credit score, supporting income, low debt monthly payments, etc" then it could be something she could run on. The only time these things will push through is if they are precise with their stipulations because it automatically shows only a small percentage of the pool is eligible and the policy would at least seem in good faith.
Otherwise giving any first time homebuyer 25k for a down payment is economic suicide. Her economic plan is the most radical insanity I've seen yet. Not even Bernie was throwing out this kind of communist heat.
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08-16-2024, 03:56 PM
#138
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Who cares
If this does result in higher house prices as many are assuming, you win anyways
I haven’t read all the posts in this thread so not sure if anyone has yet reconciled the idea that this will increase house prices and yet people who already own houses are not coming out ahead despite not being directly handed the $25k. I’m going to assume people are just being silly and haven’t addressed this.
I haven’t read all the posts in this thread so not sure if anyone has yet reconciled the idea that this will increase house prices and yet people who already own houses are not coming out ahead despite not being directly handed the $25k. I’m going to assume people are just being silly and haven’t addressed this.
Higher home prices = more builders building = more supply = cheaper price
Capitalism.
08-16-2024, 04:02 PM
#139
Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
Ideally yes, but people who just bought / recently bought / already own clearly shouldn’t be lamenting this. Or this won’t actually affect house prices, doesn’t benefit current owners, and instead just benefits the prospective new buyers which dismantles the argument against it.
Who cares
Higher home prices = more builders building = more supply = cheaper price
Capitalism.
Higher home prices = more builders building = more supply = cheaper price
Capitalism.
Can’t have both though
08-16-2024, 05:00 PM
#140
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
In 1998, I used a AUD$14k federal government home builders grant as a down payment to build my first home (building a house back then started in the low-100ks)
As a first time homebuyer myself waiting to buy, I don't want this. That's absurd.
The only way I could see that as part of a democrat plan is if they show us all the provisions of what makes you eligible. If it's like "Must have 780+ credit score, supporting income, low debt monthly payments, etc" then it could be something she could run on. The only time these things will push through is if they are precise with their stipulations because it automatically shows only a small percentage of the pool is eligible and the policy would at least seem in good faith.
Otherwise giving any first time homebuyer 25k for a down payment is economic suicide. Her economic plan is the most radical insanity I've seen yet. Not even Bernie was throwing out this kind of communist heat.
The only way I could see that as part of a democrat plan is if they show us all the provisions of what makes you eligible. If it's like "Must have 780+ credit score, supporting income, low debt monthly payments, etc" then it could be something she could run on. The only time these things will push through is if they are precise with their stipulations because it automatically shows only a small percentage of the pool is eligible and the policy would at least seem in good faith.
Otherwise giving any first time homebuyer 25k for a down payment is economic suicide. Her economic plan is the most radical insanity I've seen yet. Not even Bernie was throwing out this kind of communist heat.
In 1998 dollars that’s much more than US$25k
Kept leveraging the equity I built and now I have a property development business bringing in 7 figures annually after tax, and an identical distribution for my business partner (wife)
So sometimes handing money to immigrants can work out well
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08-16-2024, 05:14 PM
#141
I think its just pandering to the voters, I don't think anyone writing the rules would believe this is a good idea
But the more they pander like this, the more our population is trained to think a certain way. Our voter base is just trained to think, whenever there is a problem, the government needs to print a bunch of money and give it away instead of actually solving the problem
But the more they pander like this, the more our population is trained to think a certain way. Our voter base is just trained to think, whenever there is a problem, the government needs to print a bunch of money and give it away instead of actually solving the problem
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08-16-2024, 05:35 PM
#142
Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
Lol, they are running the laziest most disingenuious low effort campaign I've ever seen. Basically everything she is proposing are things she could currently do as Vice President. Instead, everyone magically can only accomplish these things if they vote her in again!!
So far, Harris has proposed
-helicopter money for homebuyers
-tax cuts while govt spending is already 30% higher than income.
-price controls on food
End well this will not…
-helicopter money for homebuyers
-tax cuts while govt spending is already 30% higher than income.
-price controls on food
End well this will not…
I feel like something hilarious is on the horizon. But we'll just have to see what it is.
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08-16-2024, 05:54 PM
#143
Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
Lol sucks to be you. Should have chilled and had fun.
I'm with you dude
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I sacrificed a f*cking sh*t ton in my early 20s and 30s for the sake of investing in my future.
Everyone else that didn't do that in the world is my competition. You are my competition. And I am yours. And all the lazy f*cks who didn't invest in their future are being elevated to our level without putting the work on the front end.
It's f*cking bullsh*t.
"They need help"
Of course they need help! They're f*cking losers! Let them lose!
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I sacrificed a f*cking sh*t ton in my early 20s and 30s for the sake of investing in my future.
Everyone else that didn't do that in the world is my competition. You are my competition. And I am yours. And all the lazy f*cks who didn't invest in their future are being elevated to our level without putting the work on the front end.
It's f*cking bullsh*t.
"They need help"
Of course they need help! They're f*cking losers! Let them lose!
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08-16-2024, 05:57 PM
#144
Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Yeah it's just pandering. Just like every politician does when campaigning
Lol, they are running the laziest most disingenuious low effort campaign I've ever seen. Basically everything she is proposing are things she could currently do as Vice President. Instead, everyone magically can only accomplish these things if they vote her in again!!
I feel like something hilarious is on the horizon. But we'll just have to see what it is.
I feel like something hilarious is on the horizon. But we'll just have to see what it is.
When they get on stage to the public, they lie through their teeth and promise free chit for everyone. The instant they get in the office, they do what they were gonna do from the beginning
Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election said to private donors that she has "two faces", one for the public and her real one
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08-16-2024, 05:58 PM
#145
Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
I don't care what they have, nobody is entitled to a home. That simple, you low test, brown ph@ggot.
Because he might have a wife and kids
Unlike you loser
Unlike you loser
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08-16-2024, 05:59 PM
#146
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
What home is worth 150k in 2024, soon to be 2025?
If they went to school and pay taxes towards schools, hospitals, roads, public infrastructure, and military budget, Yes they're entitled to a home. They are a contributing member of society.
We aren't talking about a mansion, but a decent starter home, about $150k. Maybe 45 minutes from the city.
We aren't talking about a mansion, but a decent starter home, about $150k. Maybe 45 minutes from the city.
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08-16-2024, 06:04 PM
#147
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
150K homes all over the midwest
What home is worth 150k in 2024, soon to be 2025?
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08-16-2024, 06:11 PM
#148
It's always the bottom feeding, dregs of society that support **** like this, and it's always hilarious when the progressive policies backfire on them……
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08-16-2024, 06:12 PM
#149
Originally Posted By 6gorillion⏩
Yeah, and they're in the middle of nowhere. I just love the mentality that someone is "entitled" to a home, and that this will help broke ass Zoomers purchase a home.
150K homes all over the midwest
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08-16-2024, 06:25 PM
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Dumb bitch may as well have just said she’ll mail everyone a house with how infeasible that **** is
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