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post 1543986541 02-16-2018, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
No the weapon is not the issue, evil is. If he didnt have a gun he would drive a truck thru them or drop backpacks full of explosives on them. You cant stop evil by restricting law abiding citizens
No, you don’t ****ing know that. You have no idea if he would’ve done anything without a gun. But it’s too late now anyway.
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post 1543986661 02-16-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Jibt3ch⏩
Like I said earlier, nobody can argue that guns don’t cause more deaths in these situations compared to a knife or whatever other weapon. But the actual problem isn’t the guns, the guns aren’t making these people do this, but the guns definitely making these incidents worse then they would have been if no guns were involved.So instead of gun discussion it should be a discussion on what’s causing these events to happen in the first place.
Most people can't get this through their head because it would involve everyone admitting we are failing as a society. Most Americans are too stubborn to admit they're doing anything wrong. It's a lot easier to just blame guns than the underlying problems. That's why NOTHING ever gets fixed around here.
post 1543986771 02-16-2018, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
Most people can't get this through their head because it would involve everyone admitting we are failing as a society. Most Americans are too stubborn to admit they're doing anything wrong. It's a lot easier to just blame guns than the underlying problems. That's why NOTHING ever gets fixed around here.
Absolutely.

Like this forum's search feature, for instance.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
post 1543986901 02-16-2018, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted By reverse79⏩
Thats your argument for guns.
As a defender

Its also used on the offense. Thats where the issue is.

The chance of you using your gun in defense is much lower than a gun being used on the offense
Guns are used in self defense around 65k to 100k a year FYI
post 1543986971 02-16-2018, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
Most people can't get this through their head because it would involve everyone admitting we are failing as a society. Most Americans are too stubborn to admit they're doing anything wrong. It's a lot easier to just blame guns than the underlying problems. That's why NOTHING ever gets fixed around here.
Correct. Thats because libs can't process logical thought or common sense. Blows their mind
post 1543987351 02-16-2018, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
No, you don’t ****ing know that. You have no idea if he would’ve done anything without a gun. But it’s too late now anyway.
Clinton banned 'assault weapons' in 1994, if only Timothy McVeigh had access to those assault weapons... the lives that could have been saved.
post 1543987501 02-16-2018, 09:05 AM
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Diabetes kills around 4 mill a year. Ban fat people, sugar, fast food, and snacks.
post 1543987791 02-16-2018, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By bchap05⏩
Correct. Thats because libs can't process logical thought or common sense. Blows their mind
Lack of common sense is a core tenet of liberalism.
post 1543988161 02-16-2018, 09:11 AM
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I'm not a huge gun fan nor do I own one. If you pro-gun control supporters legitimately believe that gun control could be implemented at a wide-scale level in the United States you are sadly mistaken. There are millions of guns in circulation every day. If anything, it would only hurt the individuals like myself that have not yet purchased a gun. Guns have been a part of American culture since it's inception. You can't just snap two fingers together and believe that our government is going to regulate effectively. If anything, it would just cause a widespread panic.
post 1543988431 02-16-2018, 09:13 AM
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Lol at failing society. More like failing at parenting resulting in the failure of society.

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post 1543989441 02-16-2018, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
Lol at failing society. More like failing at parenting resulting in the failure of society.
Also coincides with the rise of the 24 hour news cycle.
post 1543989591 02-16-2018, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
Lol at failing society. More like failing at parenting resulting in the failure of society.

Please get your ****ty memes out of here.

The Vegas shooter was born in 1954. Are you going to blame poor parenting there too?
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post 1543989721 02-16-2018, 09:24 AM
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[QUOTE=.:Chris:. post_id=1543988431]Lol at failing society. More like failing at parenting resulting in the failure of society.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Kuk4mfD.jpg[img][/QUOTE]Obviously. Parents drug up their kids and dump them off on care providers. Surely nothing can go wrong with that system.
post 1543990811 02-16-2018, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
Please get your ****ty memes out of here.

The Vegas shooter was born in 1954. Are you going to blame poor parenting there too?
No thats mental health issue which is the common factor in all mass killings. Hence you solve the problem [mental health issue], not masking it by blaming a tool that was used in the mass killings.

You'll love this meme

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post 1543991101 02-16-2018, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
No thats mental health issue which is the common factor in all mass killings. Hence you solve the problem [mental health issue], not masking it by blaming a tool that was used in the mass killings.
Please tell me how you are going to solve the mental health issue. I’m sure the entire scientific community would love to get in contact with you.
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post 1543991191 02-16-2018, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
Please tell me how you are going to solve the mental health issue. I’m sure the entire scientific community would love to get in contact with you.
Scientific ? Lulz...try medical community. In which I work in Btw and its a known fact that mental health issue has risen in the last 30 years.

Theres no science behind resolving mental health issue. Its called medicine.
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post 1543991291 02-16-2018, 09:36 AM
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post 1543991951 02-16-2018, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
Scientific ? Lulz...try medical community. In which I work in Btw and its a known fact that mental health issue has risen in the last 30 years.

Theres no science behind resolving mental health issue. Its called medicine.
There’s no science in medicine?? Come on man.
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post 1543992291 02-16-2018, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By TunaTunaTuna⏩
Also coincides with the rise of the 24 hour news cycle.
And *******s with gun obsessions also coincide with having tiny dicks.
Ol' 71st street. The devil that birthed me.

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post 1543992361 02-16-2018, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
Scientific ? Lulz...try medical community. In which I work in Btw and its a known fact that mental health issue has risen in the last 30 years.

Theres no science behind resolving mental health issue. Its called medicine.
Probably didn’t help that we (literally) can only house 1/10 of the mental patients we could house 60 years ago, while the US population has doubled. Letting 95% of the people we used to institutionallze wander around can’t possibly result in any issues, right?
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Originally Posted By HayZues
And *******s witj gun obsessions also coincide with having tiny dicks.
Quiet, child. Adults are trying to have a discussion.
post 1543993081 02-16-2018, 09:52 AM
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LMAO this thread is just repeating itself over and over again with these replies.
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Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
There’s no science in medicine?? Come on man.
You're dumber than I thought. I'm going to have to stop conversating with you after this post. I never once said theres no science in medicine. I stated that theres no science in figuring out how to resolve mental health issue. Never did I say theres no science in medicine. Read what you just quoted.
Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
Please tell me how you are goingto solve the mental health issue. I’m sure the entirescientific communitywould love to get in contact with you.
Again, THERE IS NO SCIENCE IN RESOLVING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. THIS IS A MEDICAL ISSUE. NOT SCIENCE.
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post 1543993621 02-16-2018, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
You're dumber than I thought. I'm going to have to stop conversating with you after this post. I never once said theres no science in medicine. I stated that theres no science in figuring out how to resolve mental health issue. Never did I say theres no science in medicine. Read what you just quoted.



Again, THERE IS NO SCIENCE IN RESOLVING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. THIS IS A MEDICAL ISSUE. NOT SCIENCE.
I don’t know why you are trying to argue the semantics of phrasing mental health. People in this thread love going down rabbit holes deflecting from the actual problem.
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post 1543994411 02-16-2018, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
And *******s with gun obsessions also coincide with having tiny dicks.
Nah its sad little mamas boys w no dicks that are scared of guns
post 1543998161 02-16-2018, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Gizzyhardcore⏩
jesus chirst

Your'e homicide rate is TWENTY FIVE TIMES HIGHER than any comparable country

Even if you take out the variance for suicides and all the other stuff you claim is skewing the stats... you are still fn mile in front.
You live on an island with the same population as fuggin LA, once city in the us. You dont even have slight prespective on how different things are over here. We have 300 million people, countless cultures living together, every race, social class, religion, you name it. It’s amazing crime is as low as it is considering all that. We take the good with the bad as far our as freedoms and diversity, it is what this country is about. Dont like it? Good, we dont care.
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
You live on an island with the same population as fuggin LA, once city in the us. You dont even have slight prespective on how different things are over here. We have 300 million people, countless cultures living together, every race, social class, religion, you name it. It’s amazing crime is as low as it is considering all that. We take the good with the bad as far our as freedoms and diversity, it is what this country is about. Dont like it? Good, we dont care.
Meanwhile in the UK 30 cops run scared from 1 dude with a knife.
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Unsure if a repost. But this is quite relevant.
https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/...hing-happened/

Cliffs:
We have had semi automatic guns through history.
30 Years ago it was normal to see guns in schools, used at high school shooting ranges
Something has changed culturally, and its not the presence of guns
We should be working to address the cultural issues that are creating this violence, not seeking to scapegoat an inanimate object.
We are all gunna make it
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post 1544001481 02-16-2018, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
And *******s with gun obsessions also coincide with having tiny dicks.
In response to your sad little comment in my CP






Now go cry to your mama because the big bad guns scared you
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