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post 1544031271 02-16-2018, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
So did the shooter. If more people just spoke out we wouldn't have 17 dead kids.
government clearance

I don't think that phrase means what you think it means
post 1544031481 02-16-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
So did the shooter. If more people just spoke out we wouldn't have 17 dead kids.
People did speak out and the FBI ignored it.
post 1544031621 02-16-2018, 03:12 PM
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[QUOTE=dhawkeye1980 post_id=1544031131]He had govt clearance and passed an indepth police background check?

Weird[/QUOTE][QUOTE=dhawkeye1980 post_id=1544030641]Lmfao yeah ive had govt clearance and [b/passed numerous background checks.[/b] Im super scurred[/QUOTE][URL=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-guns-20180215-story.html]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...215-story.html[/URL]

Weird he DID pass the background check.

very weird indeed.

I think the joke went right over your head.
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post 1544031631 02-16-2018, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Future24⏩
Deflection.
Is it? Seems to me you dont have a clue what you are talking about so its hard for me to deflect from that
post 1544031731 02-16-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...215-story.html

Weird he DID pass the background check.

very weird indeed.
Neat

Has nothing to do with obtaining govt clearance or police background check
post 1544031771 02-16-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Why shouldn't he have access to guns?

Also, can you share his dink pic pls?
His post history literally reads as a myriad of warning signs.

After his shooting spree, NOBODY will be surprised.


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post 1544032021 02-16-2018, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
So did the shooter. If more people just spoke out we wouldn't have 17 dead kids.
Actually it sounds like they did speak out. If the government actually did it's job and actually followed the restrictions already in place...

Directly from the FBI:

"The information then should have been forwarded to the FBI Miami Field Office, where appropriate investigative steps would have been taken.

We have determined that these protocols were not followed..."

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...rkland-florida
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post 1544032121 02-16-2018, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
So did the shooter. If more people just spoke out we wouldn't have 17 dead kids.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...rkland-florida

February 16, 2018
FBI Statement on the Shooting in Parkland, Florida
On January 5, 2018, a person close to Nikolas Cruz contacted the FBI’s Public Access Line (PAL) tipline to report concerns about him. The caller provided information about Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.

Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life. The information then should have been forwarded to the FBI Miami Field Office, where appropriate investigative steps would have been taken.

We have determined that these protocols were not followed for the information received by the PAL on January 5. The information was not provided to the Miami Field Office, and no further investigation was conducted at that time.

FBI Director Christopher Wray said:

“We are still investigating the facts. I am committed to getting to the bottom of what happened in this particular matter, as well as reviewing our processes for responding to information that we receive from the public. It’s up to all Americans to be vigilant, and when members of the public contact us with concerns, we must act properly and quickly.

“We have spoken with victims and families, and deeply regret the additional pain this causes all those affected by this horrific tragedy. All of the men and women of the FBI are dedicated to keeping the American people safe, and are relentlessly committed to improving all that we do and how
post 1544032251 02-16-2018, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
His post history literally reads as a myriad of warning signs.

After his shooting spree, NOBODY will be surprised.


For the records i am pro 2nd amendment. I also reserve the right to judge the tiny dicked, gun obsessed lunatics for what they are... scared, impotent, losers searching for their masculinity in a pawn shop.
Does his post history give you any indication what kind of career choice he had made and who might have employed him? Supplemental: Do you realize the background that is done for said job/career?
post 1544032341 02-16-2018, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
His post history literally reads as a myriad of warning signs.

After his shooting spree, NOBODY will be surprised.


For the records i am pro 2nd amendment. I also reserve the right to judge the tiny dicked, gun obsessed lunatics for what they are... scared, impotent, losers searching for their masculinity in a pawn shop.
Sorry your projecting on me doesnt work. If any low test beta poster here will go on a shooting spree its you

Please i build my rifles i dont buy jack from a pawn shop

You are literally the poster boy for mental issues
post 1544032441 02-16-2018, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser⏩
Actually it sounds like they did speak out. If the government actually did it's job and actually followed the restrictions already in place...

Directly from the FBI:

"The information then should have been forwarded to the FBI Miami Field Office, where appropriate investigative steps would have been taken.

We have determined that these protocols were not followed..."

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...rkland-florida
Yes..that would be the sarcasm that was implied.

Suggested that it doesn't matter if i tip off the FBI about Dhawks aggressive nature, Nothing will come of it.


The mans one Eric Decker draft pick away from being Stephen Paddock 2.0
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post 1544032641 02-16-2018, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
Yes..that would be the sarcasm that was implied.

Suggested that it doesn't matter if i tip off the FBI about Dhawks aggressive nature, Nothing will come of it.


The mans one Eric Decker draft pick away from being Stephen Paddock 2.0
Lmfao such low test beta
post 1544032861 02-16-2018, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
Yes..that would be the sarcasm that was implied.

Suggested that it doesn't matter if i tip off the FBI about Dhawks aggressive nature, Nothing will come of it.


The mans one Eric Decker draft pick away from being Stephen Paddock 2.0
Youreallytake this magic foosball thing seriously I see, lawd
post 1544032951 02-16-2018, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
Im sure youre such a badass and not afraid of men you would be able to over power three males armed with knives. Actully forget the knives, three unarmed men could kill you with thier bare hands if they wanted to. Hence the term "equalizer".
I dont find myself in those situations... strange you do.

Live by the gun, die by the gun.


However if you feel the need to protect yourself and family, by all means, i support that.

Lol @ needing an arsenal of assault rifles for your fictitious 3 attackers... how many trigger fingers do you have?

You are in complete denial if you think lunatics like hawkeye and others of his ilk do it for protection. If they do, that is a sign of delusions and paranoia. A bad mix with firearms and back to my point that HE shouldn't have access.
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post 1544033651 02-16-2018, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Does his post history give you any indication what kind of career choice he had made and who might have employed him? Supplemental: Do you realize the background that is done for said job/career?
The job that he has never proven he has held? In fact the only proof of law enforcement ever proven was him litetally bullying some kid as a mall cop... 100% srs.

A mall cop job held well before retirement age insinuating he was forced from his leo career, if he ever even had one.

Not to mention no lunatics have ever passed an LEO background check before....

Nobody will be shocked when he shoots up his ex wives work place after he snaps when she post pics of her island vacation with brad, paid for with his alimony check.
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post 1544033691 02-16-2018, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I dont find myself in those situations... strange you do.

Live by the gun, die by the gun.


However if you feel the need to protect yourself and family, by all means, i support that.

Lol @ needing an arsenal of assault rifles for your fictitious 3 attackers... how many trigger fingers do you have?

You are in complete denial if you think lunatics like hawkeye and others of his ilk do it for protection. If they do, that is a sign of delusions and paranoia. A bad mix with firearms and back to my point that HE shouldn't have access.
"I need an AR to defend my house" is a common coping mechanism used often by the mentally ill.
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post 1544033831 02-16-2018, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
"I need an AR to defend my house" is a common coping mechanism used often by the mentally ill.
What do you find is the most efficient and effective home defense tool, and why?
post 1544034001 02-16-2018, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What do you find is the most efficient and effective home defense tool, and why?
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post 1544034231 02-16-2018, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What do you find is the most efficient and effective home defense tool, and why?
any 45 acp handgun.

Home invasion/break and enters are the most common threat to a home owner. Tight hallways and an ease of use of a handgun is more than enough to eliminate any threat that enters your home.
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post 1544034391 02-16-2018, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
The job that he has never proven he has held? In fact the only proof of law enforcement ever proven was him litetally bullying some kid as a mall cop... 100% srs.

A mall cop job held well before retirement age insinuating he was forced from his leo career, if he ever even had one.

Not to mention no lunatics have ever passed an LEO background check before....

Nobody will be shocked when he shoots up his ex wives work place after he snaps when she post pics of her island vacation with brad, paid for with his alimony check.
Perma ban bet on my law enforcement cred
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I dont find myself in those situations... strange you do.

Live by the gun, die by the gun.


However if you feel the need to protect yourself and family, by all means, i support that.

Lol @ needing an arsenal of assault rifles for your fictitious 3 attackers... how many trigger fingers do you have?

You are in complete denial if you think lunatics like hawkeye and others of his ilk do it for protection. If they do, that is a sign of delusions and paranoia. A bad mix with firearms and back to my point that HE shouldn't have access.
Aww am i too aggressive for you pumpkin? Or are you just a low test beta pussy? Thats probably more likely

99.99999% of the population never finds themselves in that situation, 99.9999% also dont have house fires but they have smoke alarms right?
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
any 45 acp handgun.

Home invasion/break and enters are the most common threat to a home owner. Tight hallways and an ease of use of a handgun is more than enough to eliminate any threat that enters your home.
Rifles and shotguns are several times more effective at stopping an attacker than handguns are. They are also easier to shoot/hit with than a handgun (well, the carbine type rifles are)
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
any 45 acp handgun.

Home invasion/break and enters are the most common threat to a home owner. Tight hallways and an ease of use of a handgun is more than enough to eliminate any threat that enters your home.
Overpenetration! (joking)

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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
any 45 acp handgun.

Home invasion/break and enters are the most common threat to a home owner. Tight hallways and an ease of use of a handgun is more than enough to eliminate any threat that enters your home.
BTW, thevastmajority of murders committed with a firearm in the US, they use a handgun.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Rifles and shotguns are several times more effective at stopping an attacker than handguns are. They are also easier to shoot/hit with than a handgun (well, the carbine type rifles are)
You can make an argument for shotguns and i'd agree. Carbines i disagree. Most BAE/Home invasions happen either during the day when people are at work or at night when you're sleeping. Unless you keep your AR on your nightstand i'd say a handgun easier to conceal and draw in the split seconds an intruder enters your property at night.
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Originally Posted By Kalmah6661⏩
Phuck your stupid guns. Good thing the dumb ass opinions in here don't matter when it comes to policy and regulation.

So if the government declares guns outlawed, you *******s have no choice but to hand them over, just like in Australia.
The U.S. Govt cannot "declare guns outlawed" by procalamation or by passing a law at the federal level. The only way to outlaw guns is to amend the Constitution. That would be no easy chore and I am willing to bet that there aren't enough gun-hating democrats who want to actually stand up and cast a vote for the 2nd Amendment to be repealed. At that point, you are talking about hunters turning in their rifles and democrats who declare "nobody is talking about taking your guns away" literally lining up and voting to take them away.

So go for it. Get a repeal of the 2nd Amendment going. All you need it 2/3 of the House and 2/3 of the Senate to for vote for it and then 3/4 of the state legislatures. Outside of CA, I'm not sure you'd get even one to ratify, much less 3/4 of them. Of course, at the point where that comes close (if ever) then you have Civil War 2 for certain.

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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
You can make an argument for shotguns and i'd agree. Carbines i disagree. Most BAE/Home invasions happen either during the day when people are at work or at night when you're sleeping. Unless you keep your AR on your nightstand i'd say a handgun easier to conceal and draw in the split seconds an intruder enters your property at night.
Handguns are typically quicker to access. If time permits, it's always preferred to get to a long gun.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Perma ban bet on my law enforcement cred
Mall cop doesnt count.

Where you ever forced out of an LEO position in any regard?
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
You can make an argument for shotguns and i'd agree. Carbines i disagree. Most BAE/Home invasions happen either during the day when people are at work or at night when you're sleeping. Unless you keep your AR on your nightstand i'd say a handgun easier to conceal and draw in the split seconds an intruder enters your property at night.
Thats not argument for anything but your own fears and does not invalidate our right to own rifles
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Mall cop doesnt count.

Where you ever forced out of an LEO position in any regard?
So you are as much a pussy online as you are in real life huh

Sad
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