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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
The part that gets me is supposedly they agreed to leave and go back to his dorm to smash. Yet they screw behind a dumpster next to the party instead.So his defence is basically saying that she was concious during the whole thing and any witnesses who say she wasn't were lying?
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On one hand, that two dudes saw them behind the dumpster and thought it was sketch enough to intervene, and then he ran, that pretty much blows any possibility of it not being 100% rape out of the water. He's guilty as fuk.
Otoh, the two dudes were from Cuckden so they probably think holding a girls hand is rape.
Otoh, the two dudes were from Cuckden so they probably think holding a girls hand is rape.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
You have no witnesses that can account for her behaviour prior to discoverySo his defence is basically saying that she was concious during the whole thing and any witnesses who say she wasn't were lying?
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rape happens and is traumatic
however, the mainstream media HABITUALLY PUBLICIZES college athlete rape cases and other stories that send the message that college campuses aren't safe for women
they want to create a fear mongering culture that every man is a potential rapist and your daughter could be next
they want a society where men are on the defensive in regards to their sexual integrity, where men feel as if they need to "prove they're not rapists"
they want women to generally distrust men and to think of men in terms of "potential predator" rather than "potential friend"
however, the mainstream media HABITUALLY PUBLICIZES college athlete rape cases and other stories that send the message that college campuses aren't safe for women
they want to create a fear mongering culture that every man is a potential rapist and your daughter could be next
they want a society where men are on the defensive in regards to their sexual integrity, where men feel as if they need to "prove they're not rapists"
they want women to generally distrust men and to think of men in terms of "potential predator" rather than "potential friend"
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Originally Posted By Derek1845⏩
It also sounds suspect to me that hes saying that he actually asked her consent to finger her and that she said yes. Who the fk actually asks? It sounds like something made up to try explain how consenting she was. That being said, can't make a conviction on something sounding weird. So really the nail in the coffin for me is that his only defence was she was conscious and consenting, when there's plenty of testimony from other people who have less to personally gain from lying saying the exact opposite.The part that gets me is supposedly they agreed to leave and go back to his dorm to smash. Yet they screw behind a dumpster next to the party instead.
Originally Posted By notorius1⏩
That's true, that's why I'm not disputing what he said she did earlier in the night, for all I know it's true that she was dancing with him etc and would have had consensual sex with him later in the night if she remained conscious.You have no witnesses that can account for her behaviour prior to discovery
06-06-2016, 10:49 PM
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Some of these responses really go beyond the pale. Bunch of fukking sociopaths itt.
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06-06-2016, 10:50 PM
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[QUOTE=VocelLoser post_id=1446281353]No... I'm not...
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You're seriously too hell bent on pushing your opinion that you're not paying attention to what I'm saying. You WANT me to be trying to shift blame from the guy, when clearly I've stated that he's guilty of doing something bad. There's no point in arguing with you when you're sticking your fingers in your ears.[/QUOTE]I'm not pushing anything. I'm going off the facts of the case.
You're speculating about what happened prior to the two witnesses showing up with nothing to go on except made up hypothetical scenarios.
Secondly, even though you state you think the guy is guilty you've made it quite clear that you think maybe the guy isn't[i]that[/i]guilty due to possible scenarios where the girl gave consent and then passed out mid-fukk. What other motivation would you have to present this made up hypothetical scenario other than to take some of the blame away from the guy?
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You're seriously too hell bent on pushing your opinion that you're not paying attention to what I'm saying. You WANT me to be trying to shift blame from the guy, when clearly I've stated that he's guilty of doing something bad. There's no point in arguing with you when you're sticking your fingers in your ears.[/QUOTE]I'm not pushing anything. I'm going off the facts of the case.
You're speculating about what happened prior to the two witnesses showing up with nothing to go on except made up hypothetical scenarios.
Secondly, even though you state you think the guy is guilty you've made it quite clear that you think maybe the guy isn't[i]that[/i]guilty due to possible scenarios where the girl gave consent and then passed out mid-fukk. What other motivation would you have to present this made up hypothetical scenario other than to take some of the blame away from the guy?
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Originally Posted By zakatak333⏩
Thisrape happens and is traumatic
however, the mainstream media HABITUALLY PUBLICIZES college athlete rape cases and other stories that send the message that college campuses aren't safe for women
they want to create a fear mongering culture that every man is a potential rapist and your daughter could be next
they want a society where men are on the defensive in regards to their sexual integrity, where men feel as if they need to "prove they're not rapists"
they want women to generally distrust men and to think of men in terms of "potential predator" rather than "potential friend"
however, the mainstream media HABITUALLY PUBLICIZES college athlete rape cases and other stories that send the message that college campuses aren't safe for women
they want to create a fear mongering culture that every man is a potential rapist and your daughter could be next
they want a society where men are on the defensive in regards to their sexual integrity, where men feel as if they need to "prove they're not rapists"
they want women to generally distrust men and to think of men in terms of "potential predator" rather than "potential friend"
06-06-2016, 11:19 PM
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Sick world we live in,
Where some stupid ****ing idiot drugs themselves to oblivion to the point they cant see **** and pass out (a legal drug at that)
and a pathetic little forever alone, that instead of trying to help a drug addict decides to take advantage of them.
Agree that the end result wont solve anything, he will get put away (maybe) and still be mentally unstable.
Said girl will know be traumatized (and because of it probably consume more drugs which got her there in the first place).
Good that the guys helped (as they should have)
Sick that the suspect didn't help and instead tried to use the person.
Victim is completely retarded for having consumed such a heavy dose of a dangerous and toxic drug to put herself in that position.
Where some stupid ****ing idiot drugs themselves to oblivion to the point they cant see **** and pass out (a legal drug at that)
and a pathetic little forever alone, that instead of trying to help a drug addict decides to take advantage of them.
Agree that the end result wont solve anything, he will get put away (maybe) and still be mentally unstable.
Said girl will know be traumatized (and because of it probably consume more drugs which got her there in the first place).
Good that the guys helped (as they should have)
Sick that the suspect didn't help and instead tried to use the person.
Victim is completely retarded for having consumed such a heavy dose of a dangerous and toxic drug to put herself in that position.
06-06-2016, 11:31 PM
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I haven't read the responses, but if any one questions the legitimacy of this claim, you're likely a terrible person. I'm the person on here always shaming feminists for claiming that the United States has a rape culture, but chit like this fuels their fire. We should be shaming the judge for giving a sentence like this. She was unconscious behind a dumpster for ****s sake. Her father is likely going to murder this kid if he walks out in under 3 months.
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
lmao but bro all the FA DYELers on here say we dont have all the facts!I haven't read the responses, but if any one questions the legitimacy of this claim, you're likely a terrible person. I'm the person on here always shaming feminists for claiming that the United States has a rape culture, but chit like this fuels their fire. We should be shaming the judge for giving a sentence like this. She was unconscious behind a dumpster for ****s sake. Her father is likely going to murder this kid if he walks out in under 3 months.
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Originally Posted By jro9999⏩
You're a fuking retard, bro. That's not what I'm saying at all or what I'm trying to do. Take your strawman arguments and shove them up your arse. Yes rustled, can't stand SJW *******s like you.I'm not pushing anything. I'm going off the facts of the case.
You're speculating about what happened prior to the two witnesses showing up with nothing to go on except made up hypothetical scenarios.
Secondly, even though you state you think the guy is guilty you've made it quite clear that you think maybe the guy isn'tthatguilty due to possible scenarios where the girl gave consent and then passed out mid-fukk. What other motivation would you have to present this made up hypothetical scenario other than to take some of the blame away from the guy?
You're speculating about what happened prior to the two witnesses showing up with nothing to go on except made up hypothetical scenarios.
Secondly, even though you state you think the guy is guilty you've made it quite clear that you think maybe the guy isn'tthatguilty due to possible scenarios where the girl gave consent and then passed out mid-fukk. What other motivation would you have to present this made up hypothetical scenario other than to take some of the blame away from the guy?
Me saying "maybe she gave consent and then passed out mid fuk" ISN'T ME SAYING 'oh, well the rape wasn't that big of a deal'. It's me arguing that the context is different and that people acting like she was PREY is a stupid assessment to make because we don't know what lead up to her being behind the dumpster. That's literally all I'm arguing, not arguing that he's 'less' guilty or that she's responsible.
I guess to people like you, though, figuring out intent doesn't matter. Realize that you arguing that I'm 'making up hypothetical situations' is proper hypocritical since, based on the facts, we only know that she was behind a dumpster and yet you've got it in your head that he found her there, which is nothing short of speculation until proven.
You've already been wrong when accusing me of saying she should be punished, you're wrong that I'm defending him, and now you're even more wrong with thinking that I don't think he's not that bad of a guy.
Actually, I have a question for you: Why the fuk is it wrong that I'm asking questions and not just automatically jumping at the person's throat despite thinking he's guilty? Why am I wrong for wanting to know the details of the story and for wanting the full, unadulterated truth to be present in the case? Why is me arguing that context matters and knowing all the details being apologetic towards the defendant? You're acting like I'm playing this guy's defense lawyer, when all I'm doing is asking questions and saying things like 'context matters'.
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fuk that guy, let him get his ass pounded in prison for many many years.
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Originally Posted By Reli25⏩
lol no you're missing it, BY THE LAW it literally doesn't matter, if you are intoxicated in ANY way, you cannot consent.I think he was more so getting at...they were both drunk and consented. Her becoming unconscious then yea he deserves the rape charge, but saying two people while drunk cant consent is ridiculous since its the guy that always ends up in trouble. A guy and girl both equally drunk decide to have sex. Woman wakes up next morning, sees hes ugly as fuk, regrets it and cries rape. Guy gets charged most of the time.
A guy and girl both equally drunk decide to have sex. Guy wakes up next morning, sees she is a land whale, regrets it and cries rape. Everyone laughs at him, his friends tease him for banging a whale and thats that.
If someone is buzzed and the other person is **** faced then thats different but if both people are super drunk and he isn't forcing her...it is not rape.
A guy and girl both equally drunk decide to have sex. Guy wakes up next morning, sees she is a land whale, regrets it and cries rape. Everyone laughs at him, his friends tease him for banging a whale and thats that.
If someone is buzzed and the other person is **** faced then thats different but if both people are super drunk and he isn't forcing her...it is not rape.
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06-07-2016, 12:06 AM
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and by the way, lol at all the people in this thread saying they keepin fukin their gf's after they pass out midway through sex.
if your girls is passing out midway through fukin you either:
a. are dating a drug addict/degenerate alcoholic
b. have a 1inch dong
if your girls is passing out midway through fukin you either:
a. are dating a drug addict/degenerate alcoholic
b. have a 1inch dong
06-07-2016, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
First of all, this was funny af, and I wish I could rep you but on spread.Secondly, the swimmer brah is stupid and should receive some type of punishment. If anything for whatever existing charges he has, maybe public indecency, something. Just wanna get that opinion out there before somebody freaks out about my assessment of the situation.
Originally Posted By ProteenBrah⏩
ThisThey were both piss drunk college kids, you *******s saying he should get 10 years and get executed and chit can't be srs. They both should know better and there should be repercussions for both of them, he should get minimal jail time or probation or something so it stays on his record for a while and she got raped so we'll cut her a break and make her take alcohol counseling or some chit. Problem solved.
The people ITT who are discounting the effect that alcohol has on this case have clearly never had many or any drunk hookups...
The people ITT who are discounting the effect that alcohol has on this case have clearly never had many or any drunk hookups...
Originally Posted By Derek1845⏩
This. Especially helpful in assessing the situation.This covers his testimony pretty well. Have feeling some of you will change your mind
http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2...verbal-consent
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Originally Posted By heyyouwhome⏩
And especially this. ARE WE ALL JUST GOING TO IGNORE THAT?I've had girls continue **** me after I passed out on one or two occasions back when I drank and ****ed a lot. And almost every girlfriend I've had told me that if that ever happened to them,meaning they passed out, to go for it, they all seem turned on by it.Lol if you've never done this before, but clearly this is not rape.However when you find someone passed out behind a dumpster and penetrate them without prior consent, yes that is rape. blah blah blah blah blah
Put yourself in her situation, so to speak. Are you telling me that you would be emotionally scarred IF (don't change the context, *******s, I said IF):
1. you got drunk
2. you met a girl who was also drunk
3. you and the girl found each other attractive.
4. you danced and kissed
5. you gave her consent to give you an old fashioned wristy
6. sex naturally progressed
7. you passed out but she just kept going, or thrusting, or whatever the faurk the article says
Would you seriously cry every faurking day--for a year mind you--, to the point where you needed to put cold spoons on your eyes because they are sore from crying (word for word from the video)?
I wouldn't. I would maybe just be ashamed to have let a whale ride my cawk, worst case scenario. But that doesn't even seem to be the case. If it was somebody I actually found attractive, it doesn't even matter if I had only met her that day, I would not feel stripped of dignity or violated or anything the next morning just because some chick kept riding my cawk after I passed out.
If swimmer brah had found a random girl passed out by the dumpster, pulled out his cawk, and proceeded to penetrate her, then sure thats rape. But that situation is debatable and doesn't seem to be the case.
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06-07-2016, 12:22 AM
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too lazy to sift thru all these pages of tears but im sure this has been asked already..
how and WHY was she passed out by a dumpster anyways?
how and WHY was she passed out by a dumpster anyways?
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06-07-2016, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted By cardioman_23⏩
Holy fuk lmaoshe was unconcious, what impact could it really have on her?
i think his sentence was too lenient but still a letteris just a letter no matter how emotional it makes you it could be all bs, brb talking about his hands inside her and describing the rape graphically in the letter but then claiming to be unconscious during the whole ordeal? sounds fishy
no stds contracted, also not pregnant according to cnn
i think his sentence was too lenient but still a letteris just a letter no matter how emotional it makes you it could be all bs, brb talking about his hands inside her and describing the rape graphically in the letter but then claiming to be unconscious during the whole ordeal? sounds fishy
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Originally Posted By kilu⏩
That's what most of the crying is about.too lazy to sift thru all these pages of tears but im sure this has been asked already..
how and WHY was she passed out by a dumpster anyways?
how and WHY was she passed out by a dumpster anyways?
One side is asking questions, entertaining scenarios, and generally trying to discuss his intent
The other side is calling those people rape apologists for not automatically agreeing that he found her lying there (which is obviously possible)
06-07-2016, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted By kilu⏩
Check the link in my post above yours. It's the guy's account of the detailstoo lazy to sift thru all these pages of tears but im sure this has been asked already..
how and WHY was she passed out by a dumpster anyways?
how and WHY was she passed out by a dumpster anyways?
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When did she pass out though?
She didn't magically transport to behind some dumpster, and she seems to be describing what happened while she was passed out which is kinda weird seeing as she was passed out.
The victim also states that she is not in college and had no intention to go to the party but ends up completely wasted... that doesn't really make sense.
But either way the guy is a scumbag and should get whatever sentence you get for rape.
She didn't magically transport to behind some dumpster, and she seems to be describing what happened while she was passed out which is kinda weird seeing as she was passed out.
The victim also states that she is not in college and had no intention to go to the party but ends up completely wasted... that doesn't really make sense.
But either way the guy is a scumbag and should get whatever sentence you get for rape.
06-07-2016, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted By ognami⏩
It's a good thing you're not a judge, people like you should never pick that profession.When did she pass out though?
She didn't magically transport to behind some dumpster, and she seems to be describing what happened while she was passed out which is kinda weird seeing as she was passed out.
The victim also states that she is not in college and had no intention to go to the party but ends up completely wasted...that doesn't really make sense.
But either way the guy is a scumbag and should get whatever sentence you get for rape.
She didn't magically transport to behind some dumpster, and she seems to be describing what happened while she was passed out which is kinda weird seeing as she was passed out.
The victim also states that she is not in college and had no intention to go to the party but ends up completely wasted...that doesn't really make sense.
But either way the guy is a scumbag and should get whatever sentence you get for rape.
Yea sure, skip over all the context and details that explain how/why/motivations/intentions/who/what, and randomly hand out a sentence /sarcasm
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Originally Posted By SoSteezy⏩
no chit lol.It's a good thing you're not a judge, people like you should never pick that profession.
Yea sure, skip over all the context and details that explain how/why/motivations/intentions/who/what, and randomly hand out a sentence /sarcasm
Yea sure, skip over all the context and details that explain how/why/motivations/intentions/who/what, and randomly hand out a sentence /sarcasm
That's only based on what i skimmed over from the girls letter. I'm not trynna convict this mf.
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Both are idiots.
The dude is an idiot for going to town on a drunk chick behind a dumpster. The chick is an idiot for getting so plastered she passes out behind a dumpster. I doubt this dude physically dragged an unconscious body from a party all the way outside. Probably met at the party and went outside together where she passed out.
The dude is an idiot for going to town on a drunk chick behind a dumpster. The chick is an idiot for getting so plastered she passes out behind a dumpster. I doubt this dude physically dragged an unconscious body from a party all the way outside. Probably met at the party and went outside together where she passed out.
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Originally Posted By jackflag⏩
This. Can't believe some of the misc'ers are supporting this rapist scum. He was caught, and he RAN. If he had nothing to be guilty of, why run and panic? And why do it behind a dumpster of all places... while she is unconscious? I wonder how these rape-supporting misc'ers would respond, if the girl was their sister.On one hand, that two dudes saw them behind the dumpster and thought it was sketch enough to intervene, and then he ran, that pretty much blows any possibility of it not being 100% rape out of the water. He's guilty as fuk.
Otoh, the two dudes were from Cuckden so they probably think holding a girls hand is rape.
Otoh, the two dudes were from Cuckden so they probably think holding a girls hand is rape.
Hope he doesn't scream too much when BBC Tyrone tears him a new one, in the prison bathroom.
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious⏩
He said he got up, and verbally told her, "I'm going to throw up". She said, "Ok" and walked awayThis. Can't believe some of the misc'ers are supporting this rapist scum. He was caught, and he RAN. If he had nothing to be guilty of, why run and panic? And why do it behind a dumpster of all places... while she is unconscious?
Hope he doesn't scream too much when BBC Tyrone tears him a new one, in the prison bathroom.
Hope he doesn't scream too much when BBC Tyrone tears him a new one, in the prison bathroom.
He then realized two guys coming up, and one restrained him. He thought he was in danger.
I'm not saying his story is true, but it makes sense. He was drunk, felt like throwing up, walked away in order to not puke all over the sloot, next thing you know he is restrained by two wk's, for lack of a better term, and fears they may start kicking his ass because they just walked into an awkward situation and assumed he was raping.
These are tough calls to make
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06-07-2016, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted By SoSteezy⏩
Um no... he was caught ON TOP of her, humping the chit out of her, by two passers by on bikes. He then made a run for it. How the fuk could she have said "OK", if she was unconscious... even by the time those Swedish passersby came? Nice spin on the story though, champ.He said he got up, and verbally told her, "I'm going to throw up". She said, "Ok" and walked away
He then realized two guys coming up, and one restrained him. He thought he was in danger.
I'm not saying his story is true, but it makes sense. He was drunk, felt like throwing up, next thing you know he is restrained by two wk's, for lack of a better term, and fears they may start kicking his ass because they just walked into an awkward situation and assumed he was raping.
These are tough calls to make
He then realized two guys coming up, and one restrained him. He thought he was in danger.
I'm not saying his story is true, but it makes sense. He was drunk, felt like throwing up, next thing you know he is restrained by two wk's, for lack of a better term, and fears they may start kicking his ass because they just walked into an awkward situation and assumed he was raping.
These are tough calls to make
He changed his whole story a year after the incident, to try and cover his a$$. The guy has no shame. Let alone his dad defending him saying he "shouldn't be send to jail for 6 months, due to 20 minutes of action". Sickening. If this was me, my parents would have whipped my a$$ and disowned me.
Some of these responses ITT don't surprise me now. After all, the misc has had serial killers chat amongst us.
Originally Posted By StrongScience62⏩
This.Some of these responses really go beyond the pale. Bunch of fukking sociopaths itt.
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