Feel The Johnson: Gary Johnson just 2 points from debates!

07-28-2016, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩

No, he's a leftist Repub who's running on the LP ticket. He's far from a true Libertarian which is why many in the LP don't like him. Like many a Repub the old school leanings (which as fiscally "conservative" and socially "liberal") some of his positions mirror Libertarian.

Not his strong point, but he was busy actually doing his job, doing man chit like climbing mountains and building businesses without loans from his dad, etc, and not developing a realty show and chit. HC has negative charisma for me. I wanna throw stuff at the TV the second she speaks. Dat voice...

You act as if they are similar and they are not. Although I doubt they really know what it is, millennial for example leaning more Libertarian these days.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/12/11/mi...politically-di

He is very flawed and his strengths don't overcome his weaknesses.

Cool, if we could go back and reprogram our brain to respect those things more than personality, charisma, humor and swagger, he'd be doing better, unfortunately that is not the way things work.

They're not, except for the fact that primarily white men are attracted to both and when they become an even bigger minority in the country, neither will have any sway.

07-28-2016, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted By JimFromRaleigh1⏩

Do you have a source to back your claim(s)?

For those interested, sign this petition to get GJ/Weld in the debates

https://www.johnsonweld.com/debate?u...ampaign=debate

Thanx. Signed and shared.

07-28-2016, 01:25 PM

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If you live in NC, VA, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Hampshire, or Nevada, don't waste your vote on this chit candidate like Gary Johnston. If you want to keep your conservative values in play for the next 25 years, vote for Trump. If Hillary wins the election, she'll appoint up to 4 new Supreme Court Justices and destroy any "Libertaranian" beliefs you have for the next generation; how Scalia did for liberals.

last thing we need is a cuck like Gary Johnston stealing away Trump votes in key battleground states. You guys really want Nadar 2.0?

07-28-2016, 02:09 PM

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Match most with Johnson with trump a close second

07-28-2016, 02:12 PM

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Vote Trump > Johnson. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary unfortunately at least for this election.

07-28-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted By BeReRkER⏩

Vote Trump > Johnson. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary unfortunately at least for this election.

Actually, a vote for GJ is a vote for Trump according to this latest article. More dems leaving than repubs.

http://www.redstate.com/brandon_mors...-johnson-wins/

07-28-2016, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted By NVious⏩

He is very flawed and his strengths don't overcome his weaknesses.

Compared to our other choices we have been given, I couldn't agree less.

07-28-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted By BeReRkER⏩

Vote Trump > Johnson. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary unfortunately at least for this election.

BS scare mongering. The polls show third party inclusion a plus for Trump and a negative for HC. Read OP and others in this thread vs parroting what others told you brah. That could change of course, but to date, it's shown Trump benefits from a third party candidate more than HC.

07-28-2016, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted By jawbruh⏩

I have a hard time following your reasoning mate.

Do you see any terrorists targeting Russia?

Putin, unlike every other cuck leader, is respected even by his enemies.

The only man left who can still save the Europe.

Yes terrorist do target Russia.
Their Muslim population is over 1300% of ours.
Putin got cucked by Turkey.
The only people that respect him are communist sympathizers like yourself that have been cucked by anti western Russian propaganda.
He wont save chit, his country is in shambles and has such poverty living conditions. If you hate the westernized world so much and love Putin then just move to Russia. But you won't because people like you love to talk so much chit about America but will never actually leave.

07-28-2016, 03:45 PM

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Just got back from the future. Johnson doesnt win anything. You're welcome.

07-29-2016, 07:05 AM

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Here's a good run down of GJ basic policy positions as well as Stein. Everything I read on JG I was in agreement with. Stein, not so much.

"But but dem open borders" seems the mantra of those who parrot what they read and really have no clue what GJ actual policies are, which are not open borders. Again, we was two time and popular Gov of aborderstate and obviously has more real world experience with that issue than anyone running by far.

Thinking of voting for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson? Here are their policy positions

From guns to education, etc major policies covered.

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-w...icy-positions/

In his own words on how he'd approach the border issue:

Source and more info:

https://alibertarianfuture.com/2016-...-this-country/

Would be a huge improvement over our current approach and only a few derpa derps actually think a wall will go up and 11 million people deported.

07-29-2016, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩

Here's a good run down of GJ basic policy positions as well as Stein. Everything I read on JG I was in agreement with. Stein, not so much.

"But but dem open borders" seems the mantra of those who parrot what they read and really have no clue what GJ actual policies are, which are not open borders. Again, we was two time and popular Gov of aborderstate and obviously has more real world experience with that issue than anyone running by far.

Thinking of voting for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson? Here are their policy positions

From guns to education, etc major policies covered.

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-w...icy-positions/

In his own words on how he'd approach the border issue:

Source and more info:

https://alibertarianfuture.com/2016-...-this-country/

Would be a huge improvement over our current approach and only a few derpa derps actually think a wall will go up and 11 million people deported.

too much logic for the misc to handle Mr Brink

07-29-2016, 08:51 AM

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For the lazy

• Johnson “believes there is no role for the federal government in education.” He would cut the Department of Education.

Johnson believes the climate is probably changing and humans are probably contributing. He supports the federal government’s interest in protecting the environment, but believes that should happen by punishing polluters, not intervening in energy markets or subsidizing certain energy sources.

Johnson advocates for a free market with small government and limited regulation. He favors tax reform that would create a single consumption tax that is the same rate for all goods and all purchasers. Basic necessities would be covered by a “prebate” — a monthly payment given to every taxpaying household by the government.

Johnson favors fully privatized health care.

Johnson says people ought to be free to marry whomever they want.

Johnson would like work visas to be more easily obtained and to give immigrants a path to citizenship. He notes that immigrants commit fewer crimes than native-born people.

Johnson considers himself skeptical of foreign intervention. He believes Congress needs to be involved in military decisions.

Johnson believes police shootings are rooted in the drug war, which he would like to end.

Johnson’s support for gun ownership rights aligns with the Libertarian Party platform, which opposes gun restrictions of all kinds.

07-29-2016, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩

BS scare mongering. The polls show third party inclusion a plus for Trump and a negative for HC. Read OP and others in this thread vs parroting what others told you brah. That could change of course, but to date, it's shown Trump benefits from a third party candidate more than HC.

Uh huh. But you're posting this in the wrong forum then. The majority of the misc are Trump supporters, so by posting that chit here, you're doing the very thing you claim you aren't doing - trying to take away Trump votes. Perhaps if you go to Reddit, it'll make more sense.

07-29-2016, 08:57 AM

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Any vote for johnson is just a vote for hillary clinton.
The dude wont become president.

07-29-2016, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted By davesterrr⏩

Any vote for johnson is just a vote for hillary clinton.
The dude wont become president.

Again, and this has been covered multiple times in this thread, but your statement is completely false.

07-29-2016, 09:01 AM

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I'm not a Hillary fan or a Trump fan. However I think it's irresponsible to vote for a third party who has zero chance of winning an election.

You just have to choose the best of two evils to help limit the future problems and headaches. Voting for Johnson won't solve anything and will just be another vote for Hillary.

Not a good outlook and it sucks but it's true.

07-29-2016, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩

too much logic for the misc to handle Mr Brink

Using logic over emotions and rhetoric is a fault of mine I can't shake. My bad.

07-29-2016, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted By davesterrr⏩

Any vote for johnson is just a vote for hillary clinton.
The dude wont become president.

A vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson. This isnt rocket science.

Originally Posted By FreshStart12⏩

I'm not a Hillary fan or a Trump fan. However I think it's irresponsible to vote for a third party who has zero chance of winning an election.

You just have to choose the best of two evils to help limit the future problems and headaches. Voting for Johnson won't solve anything and will just be another vote for Hillary.

Not a good outlook and it sucks but it's true.

How is it irresponsible to use our constitutional right to vote for the person we think is best? If anything, your "vote the lesser of 2 evils into the most powerful office in the world" is irresponsible.

07-29-2016, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted By FreshStart12⏩

However I think it's irresponsible to vote for a third party who has zero chance of winning an election.

brb it is now irresponsible to exercise our constitutional right.

07-29-2016, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted By FreshStart12⏩

I'm not a Hillary fan or a Trump fan. However I think it's irresponsible to vote for a third party who has zero chance of winning an election.

You just have to choose the best of two evils to help limit the future problems and headaches. Voting for Johnson won't solve anything and will just be another vote for Hillary.

Not a good outlook and it sucks but it's true.

They have "zero" chance of winning an election because people like you continue to say it. If all the people that the polls say are very unhappy with their current choices in both parties voted for GJ because they thought of him as a viable candidate, guess who would win?

If you think something is impossible, than it is. The actual numbers suggest otherwise in this election. If he can get into the debates, makes a good impression shows he's the only level headed adult in that room, people may be shocked. If he does not get into the debates, I agree, chances are very slim.

Two, already covered in this thread who benefits more from third party....read vs knee jerk parrot response.

07-29-2016, 09:10 AM

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Whether you actually vote for the man or not. He deserves to be included in the debates. Along with Stein.

If you're running for president, the country deserves to hear you speak.

07-29-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩

How is it irresponsible to use our constitutional right to vote for the person we think is best? If anything, your "vote the lesser of 2 evils into the most powerful office in the world" is irresponsible.

Voting your conscience is never a wasted vote and a vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.

07-29-2016, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩

If he did well by the nation and his approaches/policies popular, he'd get re elected. If not, he would not, and we could go back to the GOP/Dems which have done so great by us all.

America was Libertarian before. It is no longer Libertarian.

Why is that?

Because they brought mass amounts of people who fail under a Libertarian system and come from and favor socialist governments.

You like most Libertarians are living in fantasy land, where everything is perfect and under ideal conditions. That is not real life.

The rush of Mexican nationals who enter under an open border will vote for a socialist/Democrat government the first chance they get. If they voted Libertarian, Ron Paul would currently be President.

No matter how good he would do for America, the mass amounts of migrants who came in, would not vote for him.

Libertarian government only works when you have open borders with ethnically white/Asian countries with similar standards of living. Nobody else benefits from Libertarian policies, because Libertarian policies are fair and require personal responsibility.

What countries have historically strong/significant ties to the Libertarian ideology? America, England, Switzerland & Holland. Fact. Ain't no history of Libertarian government in Mexico, pal.

07-29-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted By ProjectWheyhem⏩

America was Libertarian before. It is no longer Libertarian.

You mean the Founders of the nation? Those horrible Libertarian minded guys? If one of them were to wake up today, the only group that exists they'd recognize at all as having any reflection on their original intent and following those always inconvenient documents (The Bill of Rights and US Const) would be the Libertarians. Sorry if you take issue with that. I don't.

Originally Posted By ProjectWheyhem⏩

Why is that?

Because they brought mass amounts of people who fail under a Libertarian system and come from and favor socialist governments.

You like most Libertarians are living in fantasy land, where everything is perfect and under ideal conditions. That is not real life.

The rush of Mexican nationals who enter under an open border will vote for a socialist/Democrat government the first chance they get. If they voted Libertarian, Ron Paul would currently be President.

No matter how good he would do for America, the mass amounts of migrants who came in, would not vote for him.

Libertarian government only works when you have open borders with ethnically white/Asian countries with similar standards of living. Nobody else benefits from Libertarian policies, because Libertarian policies are fair and require personal responsibility.

What countries have historically strong/significant ties to the Libertarian ideology? America, England, Switzerland & Holland. Fact. Ain't no history of Libertarian government in Mexico, pal.

Yada yada, etc. From someone who has clearly not researched the topic but parrots what some right wind D bag wrote, did not read this thread, and does not realize Johnson is far from a true Libertarian nor for "open" borders but sane rational approaches to the issue. Hey, if you wanna vote for a guy who has the derpa derps "they took our jaaaaaaabs" crew convincing you a wall will go up or someone who will give us more Obama disasters, that's up to you. Again, who has the most real world experience dealing wit that very border? It's not rocket science brah.

Read, research, less knee jerk hyperbole son.

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Fuark these debates are gonna be good. Hillary actually having to ANSWER QUESTIONS?

07-29-2016, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted By ironicinori⏩

Fuark these debates are gonna be good. Hillary actually having to ANSWER QUESTIONS?

I hope Johnson is part of it, but I want to see Trump take off the gloves and take no prisoners on that stage with her. I will be glued to those debates for the first time in my life. Is gonna be better than any UFC title fight!

07-29-2016, 09:57 AM

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If you want Gary Johnson in the debates then you basically want a death sentence for Trump and the easiest path possible for Hillary to the White House.

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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩

How is it irresponsible to use our constitutional right to vote for the person we think is best? If anything, your "vote the lesser of 2 evils into the most powerful office in the world" is irresponsible.

Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩

They have "zero" chance of winning an election because people like you continue to say it. If all the people that the polls say are very unhappy with their current choices in both parties voted for GJ because they thought of him as a viable candidate, guess who would win?

If you think something is impossible, than it is. The actual numbers suggest otherwise in this election. If he can get into the debates, makes a good impression shows he's the only level headed adult in that room, people may be shocked. If he does not get into the debates, I agree, chances are very slim.

Two, already covered in this thread who benefits more from third party....read vs knee jerk parrot response.

People like me? You mean the people who actually are realistic about whats going to happen? Yeah it's great to think of someone coming out of NO WHERE to just suddenly take on the Republicans and Democrats but it never works like that.

Saying "If you think something is impossible, than it is." is like comparing this situation to applying for a job. Except it's not. Someone can go find a job. Johnson has zero chance of getting in the White House.

So instead of everyone trying to get this no name person into the presidency, they should be focusing on either Trump or Hillary and deciding who will be best out of those two.

07-29-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted By Sinix⏩

If you want Gary Johnson in the debates then you basically want a death sentence for Trump and the easiest path possible for Hillary to the White House.

Supply something besides debunked nonsense that supports that statement.

Originally Posted By FreshStart12⏩

People like me? You mean the people who actually are realistic about whats going to happen? Yeah it's great to think of someone coming out of NO WHERE to just suddenly take on the Republicans and Democrats but it never works like that.

As a rule, that's true, but this election is like none before it and all the old rules don't apply, which is why Trump is the GOP candidate, another "impossible" event people claimed when all this began. Again, I have laid out the chain of events that need to happen for GJ to have a legit shot at it, and the numbers that exist support it. The very reason we have Trump is no one thought it possible, assumed he'd burn out once the "real" candidates started their push, and by the time they realized Trump was not going away, it was too late. Hence, he's living proof this is not like other elections and there's more potential surprises to come.

Originally Posted By Sinix⏩

Saying "If you think something is impossible, than it is." is like comparing this situation to applying for a job. Except it's not. Someone can go find a job. Johnson has zero chance of getting in the White House.

So instead of everyone trying to get this no name person into the presidency, they should be focusing on either Trump or Hillary and deciding who will be best out of those two.

No thanx Jeff. Not quite ready to hold my nose and jump on the Dump train just yet while this is in play with GJ. The numbers show us if those in the polls who are unhappy with their choices voted for GJ, he'd win easily. But, when people continue to say it cant happen, that's self fulfilling prophecy.

If you genuinly think Trump is the right choice for the nation (HC is obviously not even worth a mention here) than vote for him.

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