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Thread: Tulsa police officer Betty Shelby found not guilty of shooting unarmed man

post 1505248941 05-18-2017, 01:03 PM
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Guy running away from a broken down car in the middle of the road screaming "it's going to blow up" sounds like a tard with a overheating vehicle to me.

My rule is never call the cops unless you except the fact that someone involved may die.

I saw a woman call the cops on her husband after a argument because he wouldn't listen to her and walked off down the street.
The police caught up with him and a couple of taser shocks later he was dead.

Don't call the cops
Don't speak to the cops
Don't befriend the cops
Stay away from cops.

The entire law enforcement profession needs to be overhauled.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
He was on PCP and acting eratic/refused to obey.

No foreign security carries firearms on US soil.
But you can see handguns in holsters on some of the dudes beating up the citizens who are running away from the turks

At least it looks like handguns, plus a news report said it was handguns
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Originally Posted By BrahPlease⏩
Why was he shot? He didnt go in car, didnt reach, didnt have reason too, no issues. Anyways he wasnt a suspect of anything, and he was unarmed so afterwards that proves a lot, just a dude with broke down car. Thats a problem.

I would understand maybe little more if he was on the run and chit but he wasnt, even then shooting would be a bad shoot too cuz no immediate justification

I swear mate this is how most american cops are

So he approaches the cops saying his vehicle was in need of maintenance, and a cop's initial response is to fear for her life? Wtf kind of paranoid duty is this?

Again, you see countless examples of this stuff well handled (on Cops, good police stories, or I've seen it a couple of times irl), but yet you get these cases of trigger happy cops and there's people that actually try to defend this chit. There only argument, "There's criminals and crazies everywhere, you just never know". And that's why cops are trained to deal with those situations when they ACTUALLY present itself, not some dude who's unarmed asking for assistance. Just justifying paranoid police work over a few bad instances (which are horrible), but the law is there to look out for the citizen, and it goes you can't throw every apple away because of one bad apple.
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Actually some of the best Detectives are females bro.
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she had no need to use her firearm, with 4 officers already there
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Originally Posted By mudrock⏩
how did she pull that off?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/betty-sh...-manslaughter/

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...utcher-n761206



IDK how she got away with it when she was with a group of cops and she was the only one who shot their guns. Surely if there was a valid thread they all would have joined in?
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Originally Posted By sclimb⏩
Why not?

If you're too crazy or drugged up to follow a cop's orders, society is better off without you. There's ~0% chance that you're going to be doing good for the community and not hurting normal people the next day.
LOL bc one cant be under the influence one moment and regular the next? Have hyou not seen ppl act out on booze? I've seen enough beliggerent, coked out bankers, lawyers, etc to know thats not remotely true. Of course, when ive seen some of these types get into confrontations with cops, there are no guns drawn, they may be tased tho.
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Originally Posted By BrahPlease⏩
But you can see handguns in holsters on some of the dudes beating up the citizens who are running away from the turks

At least it looks like handguns, plus a news report said it was handguns
Foreign security is only allowed to have firearms on their own soil, i.e. the diplomats residence/embassy/consulate etc. I worked for the State department on a diplomatic detail for a foreign ambassador in LA.

Also holstered guns vs reaching where you dont know if they have a weapon after acting erratically and you wonder why the outcomr was different? You are legit retarded

Also if they were diplomatic security than they were actually turkish police officers so

Shooting foreign PD vs criminal high on PCP.

You do the math
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Foreign security is only allowed to have firearms on their own soil, i.e. the diplomats residence/embassy/consulate etc. I worked for the State department on a diplomatic detail for a foreign ambassador in LA.

Also holstered guns vs reaching where you dont know if they have a weapon after acting erratically and you wonder why the outcomr was different? You are legit retarded
Bro, im asking why didnt any of the american cops shoot the turkey guys? They where on a public american soil in possession of a firearm while illegaly attacking people running away.

If a cop sees a non cop armed with a firearm attacking a women, wouldnt the cop shoot?
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Also what about that other guy who got videos plating a taser on the guy he shot in the back? I believe he's pleading guilty to something other than Murder.

Id like to know what a Policeman actually had to do in order to get convicted of Murder? Had it even ever once happened or are Police fundamentally different to the rest of us?
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Originally Posted By ejWU21⏩
LOL bc one cant be under the influence one moment and regular the next? Have hyou not seen ppl act out on booze? I've seen enough beliggerent, coked out bankers, lawyers, etc to know thats not remotely true. Of course, when ive seen some of these types get into confrontations with cops, there are no guns drawn, they may be tased tho.
Tasers dont work on PCP brahs
post 1505250601 05-18-2017, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By ManxCat⏩
Also what about that other guy who got videos plating a taser on the guy he shot in the back? I believe he's pleading guilty to something other than Murder.

Id like to know what a Policeman actually had to do in order to get convicted of Murder? Had it even ever once happened or are Police fundamentally different to the rest of us?
There are different laws and case laws regarding police using force. There are also codes directly prohibiting misuse under color of authority
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
There are different laws and case laws regarding police using force. There are also codes directly prohibiting misuse under color of authority
So cops can just pretty much walk up to u and blow your brains out and never get convicted of Murder?
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Originally Posted By ManxCat⏩
So cops can just pretty much walk up to u and blow your brains out and never get convicted of Murder?
Only sometimes. That has actually happened too lol. Like dudes handcuffed and he ends up shot in the head and they all play dumb.

But it depends on if a case like that even goes to trial. And if it does they will stack the court with "experts" "use of force experts" "phycologists" to justify it and confuse the jury.

But its rare for it to be that full retard.
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Originally Posted By ManxCat⏩
So cops can just pretty much walk up to u and blow your brains out and never get convicted of Murder?
Originally Posted By BrahPlease⏩
Only sometimes. That has actually happened too lol. Like dudes handcuffed and he ends up shot in the head and they all play dumb.

But it depends on if a case like that even goes to trial. And if it does they will stack the court with "experts" "use of force experts" "phycologists" to justify it and confuse the jury.

But its rare for it to be that full retard.
Lmao you guys are stupid
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Lmao you guys are stupid
Do you think drew peterson is innocent or guilty? Or holtzclaw?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Am i wrong? Wanna know how to not get shot by cops?

A. Dont be a criminal

B. Obey their commands

Whoa shocker
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post 1505256721 05-18-2017, 02:10 PM
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Best friend is a cop. Luckily he is more reasonable that they cop bruh in this thread and agrees when cops **** up, not thinks they are god because they went to a 19 week training course and now can kill who they want.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
He was on PCP and acting eratic/refused to obey.

No foreign security carries firearms on US soil.
The mental gymnastics you go thru to justify every time a cop kills someone must be exausting.
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Originally Posted By ManxCat⏩
So cops can just pretty much walk up to u and blow your brains out and never get convicted of Murder?
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The mental gymnastics you go thru to justify every time a cop kills someone must be exausting.
No actually its pretty easy to comprehend facts.

Fact, he wad on PCP

Fact, he was not comply

Fact, he returned to his vehicle against commands and reached inside

Fact, if you comply and follow cops orders you probably wont get shot.

The mental deficiency you exhibit when trying to make every cop out to be a cold blooded murder must give you an excuriating headache
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
No actually its pretty easy to comprehend facts.

Fact, he wad on PCP

Fact, he was not comply

Fact, he returned to his vehicle against commands and reached inside

Fact, if you comply and follow cops orders you probably wont get shot.

The mental deficiency you exhibit when trying to make every cop out to be a cold blooded murder must give you an excuriating headache
I'm not talking about this instance. I've never heard you ever criticize a cop that has injured or killed someone.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm not talking about this instance. I've never heard you ever criticize a cop that has injured or killed someone.
Cuz he doesnt, i think he said if he doesnt agree with the cop or thinks its a bad shooting he wont even post. Or was that the other miscer?
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Just my 2 cents here,

-The guy would be alive if he had followed commands

-Cops don't have carte blanche to kill anyone they think might could possibly maybe be a threat. Brb shooting everyone drunk because "hurr lowered inhibition might attack me."

This shooting was 100% not justified.
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Originally Posted By UTSoccerbro⏩
Just my 2 cents here,

-The guy would be alive if he had followed commands

-Cops don't have carte blanche to kill anyone they think might could possibly maybe be a threat. Brb shooting everyone drunk because "hurr lowered inhibition might attack me."

This shooting was 100% not justified.
One could argue that the fact he was on PCP had him mentally impaired. Perhaps that impacted his ability to obey.

While he chose to be on PCP what if instead he was having a stroke or some other health event that could make comprehending what was happening difficult.

Would he deserve to be shot then when he's in a medical crisis?
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disgusting what cops in this country get away with. We need body cameras required at all times on all cops

The problem with law enforcement is that it attracts the individuals who are power hungry should never be a cop in the first place.
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Just to make sure, has it been established in this thread that the guys hands were still in the air (with windows up) when he was shot?

http://i.imgur.com/QSpDX8d.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98R4e0RSry8

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Originally Posted By ItsOverBoyos⏩
disgusting what cops in this country get away with. We need body cameras required at all times on all cops

The problem with law enforcement is that it attracts the individuals who are power hungry should never be a cop in the first place.
Yeah. I don't want scared wimpy hair trigger cops on my streets. That's the last kinda person you want.

Cops should be willing to risk their lives to stop crime, I know some say they do that but they don't. Cops always take the easy way that isn't the right way.

If a cop is so afraid of getting hurt and dealing with people... The picked the wrong job lol
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Originally Posted By dj924s⏩
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/u...lved.html?_r=0
Women might well be less likely, but that article didn't say what the percentages are. How many men are in law enforcement compared to women? If there's 10x more men than women, then of course majority of fatal shootings by cops will be male. So what's the % of men involved in shootings vs the % of women?
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Originally Posted By ItsOverBoyos⏩
disgusting what cops in this country get away with. We need body cameras required at all times on all cops

The problem with law enforcement is that it attracts the individuals who are power hungry should never be a cop in the first place.
for real

add on the fact that you dont need a real education to be cop and boom legal murder's everywhere being protected by other legal murderers.

Your cell phone camera is your best defence when your rights get infringed
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Originally Posted By BrahPlease⏩
Bro, im asking why didnt any of the american cops shoot the turkey guys? They where on a public american soil in possession of a firearm while illegaly attacking people running away.

If a cop sees a non cop armed with a firearm attacking a women, wouldnt the cop shoot?
A wild brawl at a public protest =/= a methed out dude acting exactly like he's going for a gun
Some peole might even think the brawl is worse, but its simply just not the same
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