Exactly if a girl I'm dating is near my age and tells me she's a virgin I'd 100% wonder wtf is wrong with her.Sexual market value, this red pill **** makes me laugh all the time. The chance of getting any normal virgin girls passed college age is slim to none buddy boyo.

Solid post.

Yes I agree we live in a hyper-sexualized society and being called a virgin is basically an insult. The issue like you said is no one takes responsibility for the issue we have created. Half these miscers are talking about slaying girls but require a virgin, it's beyond laughable. Like if your sleeping with 5-10 people and everyone else is too, where will you find your said virgin when ready to settle down lol?

Now it makes sense why so many miscers are obsessed with 18 years old girls

I was my Gf's first and she was 19. I didn't have a high kill count, but I wasn't a virgin either. We're together for 7 year and still strong.

And SMV is not "red pill bullchit", it's fact.

What’s with all the virgin shaming? We were all virgins once.

So you got married when both of you were 19? Sorry but most people these days don't get married fresh from highschool.

We're not married, lol. At least not legally.

And I don't care about what "most people" do these days. I have my standards, based on natural law, and I don't respect promiscuous women and weak virgin loser males (unless for religion or similar purposes). They're both trash tier.

At least a male virgin can put on some work and turn his life around, as for a promiscuous female... she'll always be trash in my eyes.

Completely agree. It's so weird to me, past a certain age like you said.

On the off chance you do find a grown woman with a magically pure vagina, actually entering into a relationship with someone who's had no one but you is like accepting to adopt a child and to teach it everything about relationships and sex. Hard pass, I'd rather eat glass.

Plus, you're essentially asking for a person who has never been in a LTR (major red flag.) Unless they're 'saving themselves' due to religion which is also kind of weird, these men and women tend to be socially inept because of their lack of experience and if nobody is trying hard enough they'll choose to just stay in their little nest of perceived innocence and continue to self-fetishize.

Ergo, it's boring. I want to have sex with people who are good at sex. But what do I know?There's nothing wrong with being a virgin. However, after a certain age it indicates to me they have never been in a LTR. Even if we're pretending this totally fictional person is extremely religious and choosing to wait until marriage - which is fine - they would have been spouse'd up a long time ago. That's the reason everyone in most fundamentalist groups get married at like age 18. It wasn't because they found "the One." They wanted to bang.

Family is one of the most important pillars of society. And according to the studies, the lower the number of sexual partners, the higher the chances of having a stable family.

So yeah, I'd choose having to teach my partner and a stable family life over having "good sex" right off the bat.

No good can come from an overly promiscuous society.

Wait how old are you? Same age as her? When I was 18 sure I couldn't find a virgin lol.

So a virgin man is weak but a woman who has sex is promiscuous? Double standards of peaceSee what you did there

The fuc is with this place wanting women that don't party, having a partner who also gets yucky with you is10xmore fun than just being with the boys

Oh wait yea its 95% of miscers manic insecurity that their gf had a sexual past or will cheat on them and they might not be up to standard, fgts live a little

I get it. I suppose past a certain age it’s rather odd to still be a virgin.

^^^That’s some heavy speculation there, you saying I was socially inept? I didn’t go through all of that waiting and practice all of that self control just to have it viewed as perceived innocence! Lol, btw what does self-fetishized mean?

I'm 25. She's 26.

And yes, it is a double standard. A natural one. Getting sex is easy for women and hard for men.

A man has to be at least competent to get lots of sex, but what does being promiscuous says about a woman?

Easy women and hard men

Miscers dream

It's the opposite.

Hard women and easy men dream of miscers?

attractive
lady in the streets, freak in the sheets
no smoking or drugs. maybe ganja but only sometimes. no potheads.
has an actual career and her own money. broke bitches get no respect.

thats a pretty reasonable list.

Modern men are all about identity -- 'what does banging/dating/marrying a woman with x,y,z qualities (big tits, smart, blonde hair, white skin, chaste, etc.) say about me?'. If she chose 20 other guys before you, her eventually choosing you is suffused with far less meaning.

A thong and press-ons know how to cook neck-bones
I want the MVP with that throw-back dress on
Don't like to get dirty and don't mind workin
And she don't mind givin me some mouth an lip servicesociety is fukked my guy, get you a woman who dont trust nothing and have a prepper family

- Similar morals
- Regularly active in some way (sports/running/gym)
- Likes being outdoors
- Minimal social media presence
- Has some kind of hobby
- Has career goals

Based on the reality of today.
If my wife died suddenly I doubt I could find one.

My standards aren't misc. standards by any means, but even then talking to friends still in the dating world I would probably never settle down again. I'd have enough to deal with anyway being a single dad taking care of a daughter.

My standards I would be looking for in the initial dating phase are as follows.

-Nice, meaning she isn't intentionally rude to people unless they are asking for it or not taking hints.
-Good sense of humor, Lets be honest here, most women are almost never intentionally funny. Typically if we are laughing at women its because they did something silly. As long as shes good natured about me laughing at her then thats it, also would need to mesh with my humor most of the time. Not saying every women should find me at least somewhat humorous but if they don't its not gonna work. I also don't mind if you make fun of me in private as long as you can take a little ribbing too.
-Not dumb. Doubtful I would find a chick as smart as me anyway, my wife is very intelligent but not at the same level as myself. I don't even need a girl who is smart though. I could settle down with average. But if she is ditzy or says or does moronic stuff a lot then its a no from me.
-Experienced in bed, but not pornstar experienced. I fully expect her to be in to all the standard positions and swallow. She can even be really competent at one particular thing (sucking dink, riding, hand jobs, teddiejobs etc.) but If she is pro level at more than 2, or is begging me to blast her face or shove my cawk in her butthole, that is way to big of a warning sign. Also open to trying "new" things.
-Tidy, My wife keeps a very clean home. Its not necessary to me but she does it for herself. For me just don't let dishes stack up for days. I don't care if you do them only once a day (i would if I were a bachelor). Clean the floors once every two weeks, clean the kitchen counters every night (depending on what was prepped that day obviously), Dust once a month.
-Appropriate fashion sense. Doesn't need to be a fashionista, but if I ever see you wear pajamas or sweat pants to go shopping this ain't gonna work. Yoga pants are fine as long as you just came from the gym (same with sweat pants honestly, but if you were just lying around in sweat pants then run to the store to do grocery shopping that's trashy)
-Not fat, and never get fat. This is something I won't budge on at all. Not even a little overweight. I don't care if you check every other box I've got if you are overweight I won't even ask you on a date, and if you become overweight while dating I will point it out and if you don't lose the weight I'll dump your ass.

I don't want a virgin, I don't even particularly care what your kill count is unless it has created issues that contradict line #4. Maybe that is a lot to ask for but again this is wifey material we are talking about here, why in the world would I settle for less.

Working on it.

Men want to fuk anything that moves, so we never call women out on their chit. Gender relations will never improve until we being to demand some standards from women.

Misc gonna misc. The quality that's on the bottom should be the one at the top. I'm not going to say the quality at the top needs to be at the bottom it just needs to be modified.

I've been busy "bacheloring around" the last 2 years. 3 women stick out in my head, all of which I still care deeply about. The one thing they all had in common is that they were supportive of me. Almost to a fault where it scared me away. in today's landscape both men and women are guilty of treating a new date as a new "thing" to play with a few weeks before getting bored and finding something better. Few stick around or truly give a fuk about you.

Ironically, the women that ride for you and support you are never the hottest ones you'll sleep with. They're "cute" girls, they're the 6.5 girls not the 8.5 or 9/10 girls. While they're not the highest in attraction they're the usually the "marriage" type. They've went and looked for apartments for me while I was outside the country, they send me things in WhatsApp when im having a bad day and being a prick to them. They've come over in the morning to cook for me. Hand written letters n chit. For whatever reason, they're really into me as a person. Neither were big partiers. Both were intelligent in different ways.

Unfortunately I HAD an 8/10 with all those attributes but I was newly single and fuked it up. And that's the last messed up variable in all of this. When THE one does cross your path, are you mentally, emotionally, and financially ready to catch and retain such a gem? I've had 2 marriage material types I could have capitalized on, I just "wasn't ready". Or perhaps I'm just too scared to settle on one. Kinda sucks to be honest.Age: 21

This thread ain't for you boyo. Go out and have your fun, come back in 7 years so we can talk.

Since y'all are on the discussion of virgins...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6XwWc7Phs

You don't want your girlfriend to drink with you? You a religious nut or something...

I don't disagree with you on any of your points, but I personally don't equate having let's say under 5 partners to being promiscuous. But we obviously have very different ideas of our values in a relationship, and that's not a bad thing. People value different things in a partner. You do you. Or your gf. Whatever.LOL Jaymz. Was/were/are/is. Whatever.

Women tend to fetishize it after they get past a certain age. My childhood best friend is like this. It's not about the act of sex anymore, it's about depriving herself of pleasure for a fictional man she has never yet met because she wants him to be the first person to break her cherry. Like, she won't even use tampons. I think it's a common theme in extremely religious communities and it usually starts with those creepy purity balls, where young girls pledge their symbolic virginities to their fathers who later give permission to the daughter's future husband.

And I think after a certain point people just need to treat sex like sex. Don't be a hoe, but don't say no to one of life's most fulfilling experiences.

Age: 21

Good cuck, your brainwashing has been successful

*Rubs hands manically*

Lol

Pick 2.

I wouldn't say I have a problem with for example a 25 yo woman with 5 previous sexual partners, it's just not ideal IMO. Still, it's where I draw the line.

All this virgin talk reminds me.. was 18, still had my v card, and stupidly told the girl I'd been dating with for a couple weeks (she was 19) that I'd never done it. She went NC the very next day lol