Fukken lol @ EVERYONE'S a keto expert now

10-11-2018, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

read the last line.

Doesnt tell me what is meant by "fat burning machine" or if i am on the right track. I dont care how much dietary fat turns into real fat. I just dont see how being keto will burn your fat. I think it burns the macro fat, not actual fat, and ppl get confused. It burns actual fat only when in a caloric deficit, which is true for any diet.

"When your body is in Ketosis, it burns your existing stored fat cells because carbohydrates are not available to it. This turns your body into a fat burning machine."

"The difference is that when your body is in Ketosis, it starts to use up your existing stored fat cells for energy. This is where you turn your body into a fat burning machine."

That quote is my issue. It is saying when your in ketosis your actually burning your fat cells. If thats the case, maybe being keto actually does work. however; I ve always thought just being in a caloric deficit caused you to burn stored fat cells.

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10-12-2018, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted By kingofturtles⏩

Doesnt tell me what is meant by "fat burning machine" or if i am on the right track. I dont care how much dietary fat turns into real fat. I just dont see how being keto will burn your fat. I think it burns the macro fat, not actual fat, and ppl get confused. It burns actual fat only when in a caloric deficit, which is true for any diet.

"When your body is in Ketosis, it burns your existing stored fat cells because carbohydrates are not available to it. This turns your body into a fat burning machine."

"The difference is that when your body is in Ketosis, it starts to use up your existing stored fat cells for energy. This is where you turn your body into a fat burning machine."

That quote is my issue. It is saying when your in ketosis your actually burning your fat cells. If thats the case, maybe being keto actually does work. however; I ve always thought just being in a caloric deficit caused you to burn stored fat cells.

There is no reason to discern between dietary vs body fat. All dietary fat becomes body fat, if only briefly, because its first stop after digestion is at the adipocyte or muscle. It's all the same lipid pool and doesn't matter.

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10-13-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted By arn710⏩

keto
mct oil

pick one

literally can't find any data suggesting mct oil knocks people out of ketosis, can you link me up?

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10-13-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted By NickelArse⏩

literally can't find any data suggesting mct oil knocks people out of ketosis, can you link me up?

It doesn't, I use it sometimes. That said its overpriced but it certainly didnt knock me out of it, in fact some MCT oils promote ketosis.

10-13-2018, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

There is no reason to discern between dietary vs body fat. All dietary fat becomes body fat, if only briefly, because its first stop after digestion is at the adipocyte or muscle. It's all the same lipid pool and doesn't matter.

So keto turns you into a fat burning machine.

Will try keto.

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10-13-2018, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted By kingofturtles⏩

So keto turns you into a fat burning machine.

Will try keto.

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10-13-2018, 07:07 PM

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Keto won't burn more body fat than any other diet, calories being equal.

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10-13-2018, 07:10 PM

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for mental clarity i never felt better while doing keto. im on full carnivore diet now for 3 months (not a single cheat day) and i feel even better

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10-13-2018, 07:12 PM

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I never heard of MCT oil knocking people out of ketosis, infact when I know people that have a raised ketone level after ingesting MCT oil.

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10-14-2018, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

significant de novo lipogenesis only occurs with massive carbohydrate overfeeding over a long period of time

like 500g/day

does that mean 400g of protein and 400g of carbohydrate and I don't put on fat?

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10-14-2018, 02:46 AM

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Yea, keto and Paleo are all the rage right now for some reason.

but HNNNGGG I miss keto, but it's hard af for me to maintain as a diet.

BRB no beer.

brb 30 grams of carb max.

brb at school all day. I have to be careful with what I drink for energy.

What I liked about keto is that I wouldn't get hungry, I didn't seem to get any of the side effects, and I was pretty energetic.

The biggest con was peeing on the strips. Even though I knew "I was on keto" I still had to check my piss.

10-14-2018, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted By Budjola⏩

for mental clarity i never felt better while doing keto. im on full carnivore diet now for 3 months (not a single cheat day) and i feel even better

That's what anti-keto people don't get. It's not about losing weight faster or calories not being important. A ketogenic diet done correctly and if you stick with it for a lot of people of mainly european descent works a lot better. The major benefits are low hunger and mental clarity without the constant ups and downs that carbs have.

10-14-2018, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted By Thiiisguy⏩

Yea, keto and Paleo are all the rage right now for some reason.

but HNNNGGG I miss keto, but it's hard af for me to maintain as a diet.

BRB no beer.

brb 30 grams of carb max.

brb at school all day. I have to be careful with what I drink for energy.

What I liked about keto is that I wouldn't get hungry, I didn't seem to get any of the side effects, and I was pretty energetic.

The biggest con was peeing on the strips. Even though I knew "I was on keto" I still had to check my piss.

You couldn’t just pee into a container and dip the strip in?

10-14-2018, 06:30 AM

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10-14-2018, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩

You couldn’t just pee into a container and dip the strip in?

Keto strips are actually useless once you are adapted... Your body becomes more efficient in using the ketones so you won't have a high ketone level testing.

10-14-2018, 06:36 AM

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i'm no expert but no carbs sounds fukkin retarded

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10-14-2018, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted By lilbloaty⏩

i'm no expert but no carbs sounds fukkin retarded

Depends what works best for a person. There are a lot of people out there who do great on keto/carnivore whatever. There are also a lot of people who try these types of "diets" but they don't even bother to research anything and when they fail they claim low carb "diets" are stupid and don't work.