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post 1565756291 11-08-2018, 07:09 PM
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It's several decades too late to meaningfully restrict gun access. What Americans need to do is move the gun discourse away from an all or nothing approach. Recognize that gun ownership plays a pivotal role in nationwide culture, national defense and public safety while pinpointing harms that can be reduced or eliminated without unreasonably limiting freedoms for the layperson. But while conservatives think banning things like extended magazines is literally Hitler and liberals can't tell an AK47 from a M16 meaningful conversations are doomed to fail, and bodies that would otherwise be standing will keep piling up from mass shootings, gang warfare, domestic violence and accidents. There are other countries with open gun cultures that don't result in people being afraid of being shot in the face by an angry **** or a thug on a daily basis.

And obviously that only addresses one of the tools used for violence, other underlying factors like mental illness, wealth inequality and whatnot that gets people into crime or makes them snap is a whole other topic for discussion.
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
Guns arent the issue, there will always be ways to inflict mass amounts of violence. I believe the problem is with our society and culture. EVeryone is isolated these days. Communities dont exist anymore. People stay inside on the computer or are always on their phone when they are out. Probably turns alot of young adults into psychos. I think we should go back in time without all the dating apps, social media apps, and message boards and people should communicate face to face like nature intended
This is the real reason behind this. Capitalism breeds extreme individualization and alienation which ultimately ends up in tragedy
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Originally Posted By DIREALBOSS⏩
You’re correct. The problem stems directly from the roots of America. The “I’m an individual with god given rights” idea is really the starting of all this. The idea that it is every man for himself to make as much money as possible is the foundation of the USA, and this is the result. Thousands of suicides yearly and mass shootings just about monthly. Everyone is so concerned with their so called “freedom” (which it really isn’t) they forgot about what actually makes a healthy society.. humans are meant to work together and live in a tight knit community. Not locked in their homes shunning everyone.

A successful society is where people work and live in harmony to elevate the whole group. A failed society ( USA) is a society where everyone is working against each other to make some bucks and get on top,which eventually destroys the whole group.

Evil people own the media industry who put out mental and spiritual diseases that infect the youth. Nobody stops it because much freedom of speech! Freedom to poison the minds of children is what it is
Quoting for truth. This brah is spot on
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
This is the real reason behind this. Capitalism breeds extreme individualization and alienation which ultimately ends up in tragedy
So does enslaving your population and controlling them and their work and rationing off things.

What's your solution? Err wait *communist Llama crew"

Let me introduce you to Mao Zedong... inb4 you say that wasn't "true" communism.
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post 1565757011 11-08-2018, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By DIREALBOSS⏩
You’re correct. The problem stems directly from the roots of America. The “I’m an individual with god given rights” idea is really the starting of all this. The idea that it is every man for himself to make as much money as possible is the foundation of the USA, and this is the result. Thousands of suicides yearly and mass shootings just about monthly. Everyone is so concerned with their so called “freedom” (which it really isn’t) they forgot about what actually makes a healthy society.. humans are meant to work together and live in a tight knit community. Not locked in their homes shunning everyone.

A successful society is where people work and live in harmony to elevate the whole group. A failed society ( USA) is a society where everyone is working against each other to make some bucks and get on top,which eventually destroys the whole group.

Evil people own the media industry who put out mental and spiritual diseases that infect the youth. Nobody stops it because much freedom of speech! Freedom to poison the minds of children is what it is
Almost all other societies are more collectivist than the US, from China to India to Nigeria to Argentina to Sweden. It's pretty stupid to just say "individualism" and prescribe less of it as a solution because it's literally what the rest of the world does, evidently with mixed results. If anything, tribal tendencies can be argued to make the situation in the US worse (e.g. hyperpartisianship, segregation, religious fundamentalism).
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post 1565757031 11-08-2018, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By maddog352002⏩
Yeah communism and socialism are way less violent. How's Venezuela rebellion on capitalism going.

You're not the first generation to have this idea about communal property. It's failed everytime.
You do know that before the agricultural revolution (10,000 years ago) Humans were living in pretty much communist tribes for 100,000 years?

If we were looking at humanity's timeline, it HAS worked for longer that it hasn't... but you're too ignorant to understand so go chase the dollar CUCK
post 1565757361 11-08-2018, 07:25 PM
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I don't blame guns.

I blame people.
post 1565757461 11-08-2018, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
You do know that before the agricultural revolution (10,000 years ago) Humans were living in pretty much communist tribes for 100,000 years?

If we were looking at humanity's timeline, it HAS worked for longer that it hasn't... but you're too ignorant to understand so go chase the dollar CUCK
No it hasn't and it wasn't communism; it was tribalism. Early civilization enslaved other tribes.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
You do know that before the agricultural revolution (10,000 years ago) Humans were living in pretty much communist tribes for 100,000 years?

If we were looking at humanity's timeline, it HAS worked for longer that it hasn't... but you're too ignorant to understand so go chase the dollar CUCK
The population of the earth was less than a medium sized city today with infinite resources. Also they had no time to discover medicine or engineering. If you live that world you can live it in Peru. But lose the phone, vaccinations, genetically modified food and clean water. Good luck.
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Originally Posted By tk217⏩
No it hasn't and it wasn't communism; it was tribalism. Early civilization enslaved other tribes.
No. Shifts in power happened ONLY after agriculture was mastered.

Agriculture created the concept of surplus, which in turn created an imbalance in power. The one who controlled this surplus had the power which then escalated into warfare and enslavement.

You're thinking about societies after the neolithic period I'm talking about humanity way before that. Hunter gatherer societies were peak humanity
post 1565757881 11-08-2018, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Nelly87⏩
So does enslaving your population and controlling them and their work and rationing off things.

What's your solution? Err wait *communist Llama crew"

Let me introduce you to Mao Zedong... inb4 you say that wasn't "true" communism.
Vegan, communist. Pretty much as mentally unstable as they come. I'm glad he doesn't believe in guns or working. Because if he had an ounce of motivation and a weapon he could start that revolution he masterbates thinking about.
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That city was ranked one of the safest on the planet....

Outlier scenarios don't factor here at all. He could have driven a uhaul truck down the sidewalk.... Ban uhauls.
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Originally Posted By maddog352002⏩
The population of the earth was less than a medium sized city today with infinite resources. Also they had no time to discover medicine or engineering. If you live that world you can live it in Peru. But lose the phone, vaccinations, genetically modified food and clean water. Good luck.
Which helped as population control, more ammo to my argument. Besides the whole "men never lived past 30" is a myth. Ancient arts, text and religions all talk about elders and old age. There are lots of recent studies that prove that men in hunter gatherer societies lived well past 60

https://condensedscience.wordpress.c...-other-groups/

Humanity has been going downhill since the neolithic and industrialization has only increased this decay exponentially. There are still some humans that live in these type of societies (think about african bushmen or amazonian tribes) to them the concept of one of their own randomly and violently murdering their own kin would seem impossible and incomprehensible
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
No. Shifts in power happened ONLY after agriculture was mastered.

Agriculture created the concept of surplus, which in turn created an imbalance in power. The one who controlled this surplus had the power which then escalated into warfare and enslavement.

You're thinking about societies after the neolithic period I'm talking about humanity way before that. Hunter gatherer societies were peak humanity
If Mao is communism to you - then I sure as **** don't want to murder 100,000,000 people just because they're teachers.
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Originally Posted By maddog352002⏩
Vegan, communist. Pretty much as mentally unstable as they come. I'm glad he doesn't believe in guns or working. Because if he had an ounce of motivation and a weapon he could start that revolution he masterbates thinking about.
Spoken like a true simpleton. You do understand that this is the misc and they maybe just maybe that sig is there to rustle simpletons like you?
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Originally Posted By Dirtymanjames⏩
Why do mass shootings happen so frequently in the USA?

Especially compared to other first world countries?
In a word, vanity and entitlement culture.

Why dont poor indians that clean gutter and toilet chit all day cap people? Or poor asians that push a cart of fish to market everyday? Because even in their chitty circumstances they are humble, grateful and proud to work hard.
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Originally Posted By tk217⏩
If Mao is communism to you - then I sure as **** don't want to murder 100,000,000 people just because they're teachers.
A dictator with absolute power murdering millions... who would have thought?

totalitarism =/= communism
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Hey guys let's enact more laws to restrict legal gun ownership guys!



Oh wait...

The guy was also a Marine and Liberals always say that only cops and military should own guns and he was a former Marine.

Cali is the litmus test for the rest of the US for these sort of laws yet they still have this problem. The guy had run ins with the law and mental health issues and no one did anything about it but hey guns are the problem guys!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sword_ again
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Spoken like a true simpleton. You do understand that this is the misc and they maybe just maybe that sig is there to rustle simpletons like you?
Hates consumerism.

Wears Levi jeans, hanes shirt, baseball cap. Takes picture with latest iPhone, sent over corporate satellites , from Peru Which he flew to on a Boeing jet using tons of fossil fuels.

Tell me about your dream of living in neolithic days.
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Originally Posted By maddog352002⏩
Hates consumerism.

Wears Levi jeans, hanes shirt, baseball cap. Takes picture with latest iPhone, sent over corporate satellites , from Peru Which he flew to on a Boeing jet using tons of fossil fuels.

Tell me about your dream of living in neolithic days.
So your only response is to assume that i wear levi jeans and that I have an iphone?

LMAO what a joke, got to sleep my child

And yes, the internet, satellites and even cotton fabrics are human knowledge and that is something that BELONGS to all mankind, not to those select few that your oligarch overlord BULLS tell to CUCKS like yourself
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
So your only response is to assume that i wear levi jeans and that I have an iphone?

LMAO what a joke, got to sleep my child

And yes, the internet, satellites and even cotton fabrics are human knowledge and that is something that BELONGS to all mankind, not to those select few that your oligarch overlord BULLS tell to CUCKS like yourself
Well good for you that you hate humanity but everything people work for belongs to you. What if I am part of the bill overlords and I'm tracking you from your mom's basement. We can't have you sharing these revolutionary thoughts with any more burning man attendees.
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Originally Posted By maddog352002⏩
Well good for you that you hate humanity but everything people work for belongs to you. What if I am part of the bill overlords and I'm tracking you from your mom's basement. We can't have you sharing these revolutionary thoughts with any more burning man attendees.
No you're not a multi billionaire oligarch. You're just a slave and a cuck. But whatever man keep praising a system that enslaves and oppresses you, who am i to judge if you like getting cucked.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
No you're not a multi billionaire oligarch. You're just a slave and a cuck. But whatever man keep praising a system that enslaves and oppresses you, who am i to judge if you like getting cucked.
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Originally Posted By maddog352002⏩
Well good for you that you hate humanity but everything people work for belongs to you. What if I am part of the bill overlords and I'm tracking you from your mom's basement. We can't have you sharing these revolutionary thoughts with any more burning man attendees.
No you're not a multi billionaire oligarch. You're just a slave and a cuck. But whatever man keep praising a system that enslaves and oppresses you, who am i to judge if you like getting cucked.
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I think the obvious answer to this is to ban pit bulls
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
No you're not a multi billionaire oligarch. You're just a slave and a cuck. But whatever man keep praising a system that enslaves and oppresses you, who am i to judge if you like getting cucked.
Please tell me, how many billions do we need to kill to get the system back in homeostasis. As an overlord I have my number but i wanted to hear yours.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
If you want to fix violence focus on the family and early life at home.
this man gets it
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
No you're not a multi billionaire oligarch. You're just a slave and a cuck. But whatever man keep praising a system that enslaves and oppresses you, who am i to judge if you like getting cucked.
Enslaves and oppresses us?..

Bro - my pops and grandad came over from a third world country after WWII, grandad orphaned living on the streets and he fukkin made it here and brought his family over. To have an education, to be able to walk to a fukkin supermarket, to be able to buy w/e the fuk they want. All of these great inventions and way of life has been made possible by capitalism. Not enslaved laborers.

We have grown and are living very comfortably and you act like this is bad.. Or you sayin we should go back to livin in our shack next to the sea because America and Capitalism is evil?
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Originally Posted By aal04⏩
As an Aussie i never understood this. I get that you guys want freedom to be armed but to protect yourself from government?... yeah good luck with that

How about nukes? Atleast you may stand a chance against the US military juggernaut from your lil 2 bedroom apartment.
You think a government will just destroy itself with nukes? Guerrilla warfare would be the outcome if there was a civil war here again against the government just like during the Revolution War. Just look at how the US did against Vietnam and the goat herders living on mountains even tho the US has nukes.

Would a government destroy their own country to beat those resisting against them? Who would they govern after that?

First step to dictatorship and tyranny is the removal of the civilian's right to protect themselves with the promise that the government will protect them, just look at Venezuela and see how that worked out for them.
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how does that gun ban in chicago going?

you can't ban guns when it's easier to get a gun illegally then legally.

the problem is more single mother/cuck father boys in america full of estrogen, anger and lashing out. Decline of the family unit is creating these ****ed up boys. Something feminists and sjw's don't want to talk about.

How many shooters grew up with strong father figures?
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