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Difference is, officels relax in an air conditioned cube with free coffee, internet, snacks, etc. Tradies are actually WORKING for their money fixing chit/piss pipes, crawling through some rat infested air duct, or working outside in temps of 100 degrees or 10 below.
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07-09-2019, 09:30 AM
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That's awesome, I have always said college admissions shouldn't start until age 20. Kids should have a few years to go out and work and figure out what they want to do, also start saving money if theydowant to go to university.
College isn't for everyone, but neither are the trades. I would maybe take a side gig doing carpentry but I would personally never do even that full-time. I work for a City and government benefits are GOAT.
College isn't for everyone, but neither are the trades. I would maybe take a side gig doing carpentry but I would personally never do even that full-time. I work for a City and government benefits are GOAT.
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07-09-2019, 09:37 AM
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ITT I learned that the only trade out there is plumbing and all they do is shovel through chit all day.
brb points out 1 trade job out of numerous jobs. Tries to rag on something you'll do maybe 20% of the time.
brb points out 1 trade job out of numerous jobs. Tries to rag on something you'll do maybe 20% of the time.
07-09-2019, 10:21 AM
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Gi Bill, so no student loans. Plus I dont have to do manual labor or clean human feces for a living.
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07-09-2019, 10:23 AM
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That’s fantastic. Supply and demand my son. Having said that, their ceiling is likely a lot lower than an officecel. Who knows though. Great for America tbh good for them!
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh⏩
A lot of electricians and plumbers only work on new construction homes/buildings. The real money isn't in going out to someones house and spending a few hours repairing minor issues. If I'd have known this **** at 18 I'd have become a tradie, networked, and started my own company ASAP.Strong unaware ITT.... You guys do realize the majority of licensed plumbers don't clean out clogged $hitters on a daily basis right? New construction and remodels are the big money makers not service...
Originally Posted By 1slo5oh⏩
Absolutely.I am willing to bet your average 40yo construction worker is in better shape than 99% of office personal... besides , if you have any drive what so ever you just use a trade as a stepping stone to bigger and better things while keeping that skill in your pocket as a solid plan B if $hit hits the fan.
1. Its rare to see guys that have been behind a desk for 20-30 years to be in good shape and healthy. Its not rare at all to run into tradies in their 50s that are still lean and strong (no homo). Humans aren't meant to sit down in a chair for hours on end every day.
2. The real key is spend 10-20 years building your skill-set/knowledge then branch off and become self employed and have younger guys working for you. If you don't want to be self employed then you just build your knowledge/skills and eventually become a supervisor/manager for a larger company.
My buddy is the same age as me and he spends his day driving around in an 80k truck to different construction sites just managing. 32 year old tradie with a HS degree (been in the industry since he was 16 working for his dad) and the engineers and people that own companies have to answer to him/ are under his supervision.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Officel numero uno
How many years did you go to school? How much debt did you obtain? How many years after school did it take to reach $80k and at what age?
Some kid who goes into trades at 18 would be way ahead of you.
How many years did you go to school? How much debt did you obtain? How many years after school did it take to reach $80k and at what age?
Some kid who goes into trades at 18 would be way ahead of you.
Originally Posted By cjmadscientist⏩
LOL OP still tries to rustle jimmies despite the fact no one seems rustled4 years at a state school to get my Bachelors of Science in Biochemistry with a minor in Philosophy
walked out with 45k in debt (which is now 15k)
first two years of work I made 35k, then got a new job at 65k in year three, raise to 75 after three years, 10k raise last year
not to say trades aren't great with money making potential, but if you play your cards right in STEM, you can do pretty good too
walked out with 45k in debt (which is now 15k)
first two years of work I made 35k, then got a new job at 65k in year three, raise to 75 after three years, 10k raise last year
not to say trades aren't great with money making potential, but if you play your cards right in STEM, you can do pretty good too
07-09-2019, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
So you were unclogging the toilet?I fixed OP's mom's plumbing. She was impressed with my plunging and pipe filling. When I left she was all wet.
07-09-2019, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By tonybalogney⏩
This.I know crane operators who make over $200k/yr, what they don't tell you is that they work 12-14 hour days for 80-90% of the year
In our region, a lot of young guys go into the trades and think they're hot chit for making $25/hr in small towns where everybody else makes $15. Then they find out that the "seasonal" unemployment is actually October through April and that it happens every year, get sick of paying the union for the privilege of buying their own tools and driving all over hell's half-acre for work at their own expense so they can stand in the sun all day and end up with a face that looks like a ballsack and an opioid addiction at 45, so they end up in the Chobani plant making $12 with everybody else and that's where they dead end.
There's nothing wrong with the trades, but I make a lot more than $90k tonotstick my head in somebody else's toilet on nights and weekends, and I am more than content with that.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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If only there was a way to make $100k+ a year and not have to wear overalls and drink monsters all day.
Oh wait, STEM.
Oh wait, STEM.
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07-09-2019, 11:16 AM
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Perks to both types of jobs. There are many days the office life sucks and I would much rather be doing something active. Other days, like today, when I just want to sloth and misc, office life is GOAT.
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07-09-2019, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted By cjmadscientist⏩
LMFAO.4 years at a state school to get my Bachelors of Science in Biochemistry with a minor in Philosophy
walked out with 45k in debt (which is now 15k)
first two years of work I made 35k, then got a new job at 65k in year three, raise to 75 after three years, 10k raise last year
not to say trades aren't great with money making potential, but if you play your cards right in STEM, you can do pretty good too
walked out with 45k in debt (which is now 15k)
first two years of work I made 35k, then got a new job at 65k in year three, raise to 75 after three years, 10k raise last year
not to say trades aren't great with money making potential, but if you play your cards right in STEM, you can do pretty good too
And after you get out of work is your phone ringing off the hook with people needing you to go to their house and do biochemistry?
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Here in Texas some of us made 110k last year just being journeyman. Those guys are usually really good salesman though.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Yea I never stuck my head in anyone’s toilet brother, but yea good for you I never really had the opportunity to go to college so I picked up whatever trade I could cause I didn’t wanna be a broke fuk.This.
In our region, a lot of young guys go into the trades and think they're hot chit for making $25/hr in small towns where everybody else makes $15. Then they find out that the "seasonal" unemployment is actually October through April and that it happens every year, get sick of paying the union for the privilege of buying their own tools and driving all over hell's half-acre for work at their own expense so they can stand in the sun all day and end up with a face that looks like a ballsack and an opioid addiction at 45, so they end up in the Chobani plant making $12 with everybody else and that's where they dead end.
There's nothing wrong with the trades, but I make a lot more than $90k tonotstick my head in somebody else's toilet on nights and weekends, and I am more than content with that.
In our region, a lot of young guys go into the trades and think they're hot chit for making $25/hr in small towns where everybody else makes $15. Then they find out that the "seasonal" unemployment is actually October through April and that it happens every year, get sick of paying the union for the privilege of buying their own tools and driving all over hell's half-acre for work at their own expense so they can stand in the sun all day and end up with a face that looks like a ballsack and an opioid addiction at 45, so they end up in the Chobani plant making $12 with everybody else and that's where they dead end.
There's nothing wrong with the trades, but I make a lot more than $90k tonotstick my head in somebody else's toilet on nights and weekends, and I am more than content with that.
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh⏩
You did it rightBecause snowflakes are either too scared to get dirty for a living or just have sacks of dicks for hands and can't change a fkn flat tire let alone construct anything...
Personally I joined a local union when I was 20yo and did a 5y apprenticeship WHILE attending college classes on nights and weekends... I walked away from that with a Journeyman plumbers license and a degree in Mechanical Engineering... I used my field experience and contacts within the industry to eventually go to work designing Mechanical and plumbing systems for commercial buildings. I still keep my Plumbing license current but haven't actually had to use it since 2006. There is a lot of money to be made if your hustle is 100...
Personally I joined a local union when I was 20yo and did a 5y apprenticeship WHILE attending college classes on nights and weekends... I walked away from that with a Journeyman plumbers license and a degree in Mechanical Engineering... I used my field experience and contacts within the industry to eventually go to work designing Mechanical and plumbing systems for commercial buildings. I still keep my Plumbing license current but haven't actually had to use it since 2006. There is a lot of money to be made if your hustle is 100...
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
the only chemistry I do at home, is put super cooled water into a glass of fermented agaveLMFAO.
And after you get out of work is your phone ringing off the hook with people needing you to go to their house and do biochemistry?
And after you get out of work is your phone ringing off the hook with people needing you to go to their house and do biochemistry?
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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
I work for 10 days at a time. While I'm at work everything is covered. I cant have a drink after work. They pay me very well to basically own me for those 10 days. They also pay me well because I know what I'm doing and arent gonna let some dumb ass messing around with their 10 billion dollar sand box. A mistake could easily mean blowing something up especially since I'm actually having safety devices turned off to do my job (I'm in management but I'm still responsible for everything the people that are working for me are doing).I feel like people exaggerate how much the average tradie makes. It's always "I know a guy who makes 6 figures with lots of overtime, therefore every tradie makes that much". I don't think so brahs, if it was that easy then everyone would do it
They are obviously paying us pretty well.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
The real money is in project management. Spend a few years on a job site and see how everything runs. My buddies dad is a carpenter and did that. He had 5 employees and was doing around $75 million a year in business. He bids on the job and is the prime contractor. He has a project manager at the job who basically keeps things running between all the sub contractors.A lot of electricians and plumbers only work on new construction homes/buildings. The real money isn't in going out to someones house and spending a few hours repairing minor issues. If I'd have known this **** at 18 I'd have become a tradie, networked, and started my own company ASAP.
Absolutely.
1. Its rare to see guys that have been behind a desk for 20-30 years to be in good shape and healthy. Its not rare at all to run into tradies in their 50s that are still lean and strong (no homo). Humans aren't meant to sit down in a chair for hours on end every day.
2. The real key is spend 10-20 years building your skill-set/knowledge then branch off and become self employed and have younger guys working for you. If you don't want to be self employed then you just build your knowledge/skills and eventually become a supervisor/manager for a larger company.
My buddy is the same age as me and he spends his day driving around in an 80k truck to different construction sites just managing. 32 year old tradie with a HS degree (been in the industry since he was 16 working for his dad) and the engineers and people that own companies have to answer to him/ are under his supervision.
Absolutely.
1. Its rare to see guys that have been behind a desk for 20-30 years to be in good shape and healthy. Its not rare at all to run into tradies in their 50s that are still lean and strong (no homo). Humans aren't meant to sit down in a chair for hours on end every day.
2. The real key is spend 10-20 years building your skill-set/knowledge then branch off and become self employed and have younger guys working for you. If you don't want to be self employed then you just build your knowledge/skills and eventually become a supervisor/manager for a larger company.
My buddy is the same age as me and he spends his day driving around in an 80k truck to different construction sites just managing. 32 year old tradie with a HS degree (been in the industry since he was 16 working for his dad) and the engineers and people that own companies have to answer to him/ are under his supervision.
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