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post 1596325161 01-25-2020, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
I thought a great man once said not to judge people by the color of their skin but by the content of their character?
unless your white
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Originally Posted By Scorpion613⏩
Why are you automatically assuming it's racism without any kind of evidence to support your claims?
Because leftists look at EVERYTHING though a racial(racist) lense. Racism is so deeply embedded in their psyche that they don't know they're racist. They automatically assume black people are incapable of succeeding without them that every opinion they hold is to try to "help" them because they subconsciously see themselves as saviors.
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Originally Posted By Scorpion613⏩
Why are you automatically assuming it's racism without any kind of evidence to support your claims?
Sillie never misses an opportunity to virtue signal.
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So the problem is white and straight? So if all the directors are white but two of them are gay, then that's alright? Sexual orientation > race I guess.
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Originally Posted By Scorpion613⏩
Why are you automatically assuming it's racism without any kind of evidence to support your claims?
Doesn't have to be racism. Something systematically is wrong when only white men get the top positions. Anyone who can't see that is a fool...or you think only white men are competent enough for these positions. There's no middle ground boyos.

There are like 3 republican minorities in congress. Does that not strike you boyos as ODD?

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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Doesn't have to be racism. Something systematically is wrong when only white men get the top positions. Anyone who can't see that is a fool...or you think only white men are competent enough for these positions. There's no middle ground boyos.

There are like 3 republican minorities in congress. Does that not strike you boyos as ODD?

phuking lmfao.
not really when 92% of blacks are democrats. why are blacks so partyist?
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Originally Posted By Skylinerd1⏩
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rnd=markets-vp


A Jewish company only advocating discrimination against White Men, who would of thought?


Isnt the US of A still nearly 80% white?


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Originally Posted By Scorpion613⏩
Why are you automatically assuming it's racism without any kind of evidence to support your claims?
He does not actually believe his own bulls*it.

Leftists do not actually believe their own bulls*it.

They do not actually believe Trump is a white supremacist.

They do not actually believe the "OK" sign is a symbol of white supremacy.

They do not actually believe in "equality", or else they would not talk with black people like they're retarded (https://www.psychologicalscience.org...-contends.html)

It's all a power grab and/or virtue signalling
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Doesn't have to be racism. Something systematically is wrong when only white men get the top positions.
Assuming that the only way a group of people of similar race being at the top can get there is via racism or some other discriminatory practice is bigoted. You're literally doing what you claim to be fighting against.
Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Anyone who can't see that is a fool...or you think only white men are competent enough for these positions. There's no middle ground boyos.
Well, the US is comprised of about 70% whites, so it would make sense that most of these positions would go to whites. Add the fact that many non whites and non east Asians just don't value education, and it's easy to see how there just might not be enough people who would even care about these jobs in order for any company board to have non whites in them. My wife's last company, the CEO was black, and every one of her directors and executives except for my wife was white. I wonder if she was racist?
Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
There are like 3 republican minorities in congress. Does that not strike you boyos as ODD?

phuking lmfao.
Not at all, being black as I tend to be, and having family that's non white, I will tell you that non whites love voting liberal, and many don't even understand what they're voting for. It's sad, but it's the reality of a culture that doesn't value education.
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So the argument still being put out. 100% white boards, DEFINITELY no racism involved. Have to accept a minority candidate or two DEFINITELY racist.

You people are something. And I guess the NFL only has 3 black coaches because only white guys are qualified to coach?

Phuking killing me y'all are.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
So the argument still being put out. 100% white boards,DEFINITELY no racism involved.Have to accept a minority candidate or two DEFINITELY racist.

You people are something. And I guess the NFL only has 3 black coaches because only white guys are qualified to coach?

Phuking killing me y'all are.
The burden of proof that its due to "racism" is on you, not on us to prove a negative.

As usual, you have nothing (especially no evidence) but feels and your usual BS.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
So the argument still being put out. 100% white boards, DEFINITELY no racism involved. Have to accept a minority candidate or two DEFINITELY racist.

You people are something. And I guess the NFL only has 3 black coaches because only white guys are qualified to coach?

Phuking killing me y'all are.
No. The argument is let the free market be a free market. If there are enough super qualified minority candidates to be directors on the board of a company or in high profile management positions, sooner or later they will get hired. People love money. Love making money. Corporations even more so. They will hire the best no matter what color.

Sure, there used to be racism involved that prevented minorities from getting hired. 75 years ago. Those days for the most part are gone. You are always going to have some bigots-ON BOTH SIDES, that won't hire blacks or whites or hispanics, but we have come a long way from outright racism and in 30 years things will be even better.

Just don't force it. That is pandering and not fair to everyone.

As for NFL coaches, I already discussed this. A few years ago there were 7 or 8 black coaches out of 32....so 25%. Which is a much higher rate than the 13% blacks that exist in the US. Go to any high school or college football program. For whatever reason, the majority of people who are interested in coaching have been white. Hence they go on to be NFL coaches. Nobody is saying "we can't hire this black guy even if he is the best candidate". No. Teams want to win no matter what color the coach is.

You never mention the ratio of black to white players in the NFL, or the NBA when black players are clearly in the majority of THOSE sports. However, we constantly hear it regarding baseball, and hockey. When will it end? I'm sick and tired of hearing the race card pulled when it only supports their agenda. It should be the best person for the job at hand no mater if that person happens to be black, white, brown, purple, yellow, pink etc.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
No. The argument is let the free market be a free market. If there are enough super qualified minority candidates to be directors on the board of a company or in high profile management positions, sooner or later they will get hired. People love money. Love making money. Corporations even more so. They will hire the best no matter what color.

Sure, there used to be racism involved that prevented minorities from getting hired. 75 years ago. Those days for the most part are gone. You are always going to have some bigots-ON BOTH SIDES, that won't hire blacks or whites or hispanics, but we have come a long way from outright racism and in 30 years things will be even better.

Just don't force it. That is pandering and not fair to everyone.

As for NFL coaches, I already discussed this. A few years ago there were 7 or 8 black coaches out of 32....so 25%. Which is a much higher rate than the 13% blacks that exist in the US. Go to any high school or college football program. For whatever reason, the majority of people who are interested in coaching have been white. Hence they go on to be NFL coaches. Nobody is saying "we can't hire this black guy even if he is the best candidate". No. Teams want to win no matter what color the coach is.

You never mention the ratio of black to white players in the NFL, or the NBA when black players are clearly in the majority of THOSE sports. However, we constantly hear it regarding baseball, and hockey. When will it end? I'm sick and tired of hearing the race card pulled when it only supports their agenda. It should be the best person for the job at hand no mater if that person happens to be black, white, brown, purple, yellow, pink etc.
So bakers that won't bake cakes for homos and restaurants that wouldn't allow blacks until forced were doing that because they love money?

As for NFL coaches, all the owners are white. Do you think this plays a part at all?
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
The burden of proof that its due to "racism" is on you, not on us to prove a negative.

As usual, you have nothing (especially no evidence) but feels and your usual BS.
I've never claimed it was due to racism. Just that systematically something is out of whack and needs to be corrected.

You people are the ones crying about racism, not I.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
I've never claimed it was due to racism. Just thatsystematically something is out of whackand needs to be corrected.

You people are the onescrying about racism, not I.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
So bakers that won't bake cakes for homos and restaurants that wouldn't allow blacks until forced were doing that because they love money?

As for NFL coaches, all the owners are white. Do you think this plays a part at all?
You are talking 2 different things. One event (open racism) occurred 75 years ago when things were much different in our culture. Why you keep bringing something up that happened when none of us were alive is mind boggling. A 1000 years ago our ancestors sacrificed animals and killed each other indiscriminately. Should we keep blaming us for that as well?

As for the gays and the cake. That is a religious issue and completely different because of how stupidly religious our world still is. I don't understand it but it is what it is and until we move past that, religious freedom and beliefs take precedent over almost anything.

The NFL and its owners being white? I don't know. I mean the NFL is hiring black NFL coaches and in management positions. As I said a few years ago there were 7 or 8 head NFL coaches. Trends come and go in the NFL. Right now the trend is to hire young innovative offensive guys. In 5 years it could be old defensive coaches. Some more may be black. I certainly don't believe there is any effort to prevent black coaches from being hired. In fact quite the opposite as the NFL created the Rooney rule years ago that requires all teams to interview at least one black potential.

Plus, look at the trend in NFL Qbs. It is gone from taller more immobile WHITE pocket passers to smaller, more mobile, running, BLACK RPO (run pass option) Qbs.

Why? Because NFL owners and teams want to win and right now that is the trend that teams are going to. That certainly is not racism. They could care less what color the qbs are.

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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
You are talking 2 different things. One event (open racism) occurred 75 years ago when things were much different in our culture. Why you keep bringing something up that happened when none of us were alive is mind boggling. A 1000 years ago our ancestors sacrificed animals and killed each other indiscriminately. Should we keep blaming us for that as well?

As for the gays and the cake. That is a religious issue and completely different because of how stupidly religious our world still is. I don't understand it but it is what it is and until we move past that, religious freedom and beliefs take precedent over almost anything.

The NFL and its owners being white? I don't know. I mean the NFL is hiring black NFL coaches and in management positions. As I said a few years ago there were 7 or 8 head NFL coaches. Trends come and go in the NFL. Right now the trend is to hire young innovative offensive guys. In 5 years it could be old defensive coaches. Some more may be black. I certainly don't believe there is any effort to prevent black coaches from being hired. In fact quite the opposite as the NFL created the Rooney rule years ago that requires all teams to interview at least one black potential.

Plus, look at the trend in NFL Qbs. It is gone from taller more immobile WHITE pocket passers to smaller, more mobile, running, BLACK RPO (run pass option) Qbs.

Why? Because NFL owners and teams want to win and right now that is the trend that teams are going to. That certainly is not racism. They could care less what color the qbs are.

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You believe the the motivations that drove the country 75 years ago are completely gone? Hell my FIL and his buddies would routinely drop the N word and still do when I'm not around.

Let's not act like racism is a thing of the past. It's certainly less but it ain't gone by a long shot boyo.

And note, I never claimed the boards were all white because of racism, the babies ITT did. I just said that something isn't working and needs to be fixed. GS clearly thinks so too.
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Mind blown there are people that try to justify this clear racism.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
You believe the the motivations that drove the country 75 years ago are completely gone? Hell my FIL and his buddies would routinely drop the N word and still do when I'm not around.

Let's not act like racism is a thing of the past. It's certainly less but it ain't gone by a long shot boyo.

And note, I never claimed the boards were all white because of racism, the babies ITT did. I just said that something isn't working and needs to be fixed. GS clearly thinks so too.
You're a 52 year old man, It's completely understandable that a man born in the 40s like your father in law would call people nigers. What's not understandable is someone who is 52 years old having no logic or common sense.

Nothing you ever say makes sense. BRB only 3 black coaches, brb disregard that most players in the NFL are black.

3 black coaches comes out to 9% of coaches being black. Black population in the US is 14%. The NFL has 1696 players, and 68% of them are black. So why aren't you crying about that? Should we be fair, and hire one more black coach for the NFL, and get rid of 981 black players to even everything out?
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Do our forum Liberals have a problem with all female or all black boards? (Happens all the time, Huff Post, Rap labels etc.)
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...boards-in-ipos
As Goldman Sachs Group Inc. moves to increase diversity on corporate boards, the investment bank isn’t extending the initiative to a particularly challenged region: Asia.

Chief Executive Officer David Solomon revealed this week that starting in July the bank won’t handle initial public offerings for companiesthat lack either a female or diverse director.But the rule applies only to IPOs in the U.S. and Europe. Asia’s exclusion is striking, given how common all-male boards are in the region. Other bastions of male dominance, including Latin America and the Middle East, also went unmentioned.

A Goldman spokeswoman said the bank will consider implementing the plan in Asia and other regions over time after consulting with its clients, as diversity awareness improves in those areas and that it will consult with its clients in those areas to improve board diversity.

“Nowadays there’s no excuse for companies to have non-diverse, all-male boards,” said Fern Ngai, CEO of Community Business, a Hong Kong-based group that advocates for responsible and inclusive business practices. Goldman “should include Asia. I don’t see why they don’t.”

Goldman is initially targeting regions where corporations have come further in making women a part of top-level decision-making. In California, new legislation mandates board diversity, with fines for noncompliance. Asia lags behind not just the U.S. and Europe, but also global leader Africa in the proportion of women on company boards, McKinsey Global Institute reported late last year.

A study by index provider MSCI Inc. of companies in its global benchmarks last month showed about 33% of firms in Japan had no female board members, one percentage point worse than China and Hong Kong. By comparison, that figure was 1% in the U.S., while it was 94% in Saudi Arabia.

Recent high-profile IPOs in Asia showed a paucity of female representation, with no women on the boards of Xiaomi Corp. and Meituan Dianping, which raised almost $10 billion combined in 2018. Goldman had a leading role in both those offerings.

The bank was the biggest underwriter of IPOs in the U.S. and Europe last year. It had a more modest market share in Asia, coming in 19th, according to Bloomberg league tables. Goldman was an adviser on 86 IPOs in 2019, ranking sixth globally among underwriters.
>the bank won’t handle initial public offerings for companies that lack either a female or diverse director
>female or diverse director
>diverse director

They are not even pretending anymore lol
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
So to get back on topic. When whites are 100% of corporate boards, all is good and race has nothing to do with it.

But if boards require a couple of slots to go to non-whites, MUH RACISM!!!!

Do I have that correct?
A board with 20 white individuals is more probable by pure chance than a basketball team with 5 black starters. Guess they should require a couple of slots to non-blacks, MUH RACISM!
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
So to get back on topic. When whites are 100% of corporate boards, all is good and race has nothing to do with it.

But if boards require a couple of slots to go to non-whites, MUH RACISM!!!!

Do I have that correct?
Yes, it is racist to require people to be of certain races.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
You're a 52 year old man, It's completely understandable that a man born in the 40s like your father in law would call people nigers. What's not understandable is someone who is 52 years old having no logic or common sense.

Nothing you ever say makes sense. BRB only 3 black coaches, brb disregard that most players in the NFL are black.

3 black coaches comes out to 9% of coaches being black. Black population in the US is 14%. The NFL has 1696 players, and 68% of them are black. So why aren't you crying about that? Should we be fair, and hire one more black coach for the NFL, and get rid of 981 black players to even everything out?
Please tell me you're not serious. And how old do you think the people on many corporate boards are? Oh yea, closer to the age of my FIL than me for phuks sake.

Football players = readily observable physical talent
Football coaching = not readily observable and often placed into positions based on who you know

And I make no sense?
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
Do our forum Liberals have a problem with all female or all black boards? (Happens all the time, Huff Post, Rap labels etc.)
I addressed this a few pages ago. Yes I do/would the same way I have an issue with all white boards.
Early AM workout crew.
Holy crap dude, Satan's huge crew.
post 1596350061 01-25-2020, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
A board with 20 white individuals is more probable by pure chance than a basketball team with 5 black starters. Guess they should require a couple of slots to non-blacks, MUH RACISM!
LMFAO. So choosing the five best players you can readily observe as the best is more racist than choosing a board based on...what exactly?
Early AM workout crew.
Holy crap dude, Satan's huge crew.
post 1596350391 01-25-2020, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
LMFAO. So choosing the five best players you can readily observe as the best is more racist than choosing a boardbased on...what exactly?
Merit and accomplishments.
post 1596350481 01-25-2020, 03:49 PM
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*yawn*

jews hate whites/Christians? you don't say!

just look what their holy book the talmud has to say.
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