This is a very slippery slope though, unless you mean they shouldn't run them down if they already have all their information.

Brb steal from a store (non violent crime)
Brb if I see a cop all I have to do is drop the stuff and I'm free to run away

Brb cops find drugs on me
brb I'm free to run away and reup to keep slinging that chit

I think in her mind she probably thought she did nothing wrong. The way she was screaming for help and ran off terrified seems like she might have thought he would harm her once he cuffed her for some reason.

If this kind of chit keeps happening, black people are going to be so scared of cops that they will just shoot them the moment they think they will be arrested. We need to really look at the nature of force here. He really didn't need to cuff her right then. All of this could have been avoided. And idk why he couldn't just keep her detained in a civil manner until backup arrived.

What is dumb is she was being arrested over some weed. She lost her life over some fking weed man.

Illegal weapons tend to make drug charges much worse

Well for this situation, the first place to look at is why drugs are criminalized in this way. Why do people face jail and not rehab for drug use? Another issue is just the nature of force in this country. It went from zero to taze to guns in under 10 s. That is not ok. Honestly, he could have let the bitch run. He had her plates and she doesn't look like a serial killer or something. She wasn't some hardened criminal. Just a terrified woman. Why do we care so god damn much? This is the police state. You don't see it because you've become so used to it. Our system seems almost designed to escalate. The moment anyone panics or flees, even for the most trivial offenses, it's a green light to escalate. Why? Escalation is incredibly destabilizing for our society.

I realize the officer was just following protocol. But why is it crucial to taze someone and escalate force if they flee and it isn't a violent felony? I can understand the pressing need to stop a suspected murderer.I do not understand the pressing need to taze this terrified, fat woman. Sorry, I just don't. Our system is fuking broken. Our laws did create this situation. We build our laws assuming everyone is rational when these rules predictably fail over and over again.

It's important to not the officer had no knowledge of the weapon beforehand. In his decision to taze, as required by the law, the justification for being tazed was simply fleeing from a drug charge. That, imo, is ridiculous. And it isn't the officer'a fault here. It's the system that is just ridiculous.

Officer is critically wounded.

Just a disaster all around. I feel like neither of these ppl deserved this. All over some fking weed man.

It's important to not the officer had no knowledge of the weapon beforehand. In his decision to taze, as required by the law, the justification for being tazed was simply fleeing from a drug charge. That, imo, is ridiculous. And it isn't the officer'a fault here. It's the system that is just ridiculous.

Then what, go to her house, risk entering an unfamiliar situation where she is prepared moreso to fire at the police?

Then they show up at the house, and then your claim will be 'Why didn't they just come back later when she was in a better mood.' When does it end?

Why is the onus to act like a civilized person never on the criminal?

Isn't a threat? She fuking shot a cop?

I think in her mind she probably thought she did nothing wrong. The way she was screaming for help and ran off terrified seems like she might have thought he would harm her once he cuffed her for some reason.

If this kind of chit keeps happening, black people are going to be so scared of cops that they will just shoot them the moment they think they will be arrested. We need to really look at the nature of force here. He really didn't need to cuff her right then. All of this could have been avoided. And idk why he couldn't just keep her detained in a civil manner until backup arrived.

What is dumb is she was being arrested over some weed. She lost her life over some fking weed man.

It's regarding the woman's actions not the police officer. She knew she was going to face consequences and she'd rather kill someone than do that.

As for the drug issue you won't find a more adamant opponent of prohibition than me. Maybe tell the BLM useful idiot retards to focus on that instead of defunding the police

All true. But we need to treat drugs differently somehow and look at why we choose to taze people for nonviolent crimes. The system is designed to escalate. It's not productive.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Drugs are addictive and people cannot decide to get off of them, even when they want to. Their lives spiral out of control and to the point they will rob and kill to feed their habit. there are numerous case studies where drugs have crippled large populations. Opium, ******** and others have and are being used by nation states in unrestricted warfare.

Look at all major west coast cities where homeless populations have skyrocketed and 99% of them are hopelessly addicted to drugs. It’s a major problem and only worse when politicians that live in the suburbs address the issue kiddie gloves because for some reason libtards have it baked in their mind that drug addiction isn’t wide spread and only affects a few users who can jump on and off with some magical government program

What do animals do when cornered? You're familiar with fight or flight right? The escalation of force when unnecessary can and will lead to deaths like this.

Great treats and decriminalized drugs when there was guy in Florida strung out on bath salts eating peoples faces off yup

Or some dude high as a kite that runs into traffic and gets creamed

Great treats and decriminalized drugs when there was guy in Florida strung out on bath salts eating peoples faces off yup

Or some dude high as a kite that runs into traffic and gets creamed

I am not persuaded.

It’s my personal belief that the government should not have any say in how sovereign adults explore their consciousness with drugs.

But until those laws are changed, they must be followed in order to keep democracy.

sovereign adults explore their consciousness? bruh no offense but we literally have zero idea what that powder was. It could have been car******** for all we know.

After being tazed and panicking. You guys are so wrapped up in the police state that you don't even see how insane it is that people face jail time over drug charges and get tazed when they freak out and run.

the cops are enforcing existing laws, that is a separate argument to change the laws. If you are advocating the cops selectively enforce different laws out of "common sense" or using whatever determinants, that is ripe for abuse, the sheriff is an elected official and focuses on crimes they think will make good news stories like drug and prostitution busts, meanwhile if your personal property, your car or your house gets broken into, its low priority to them, even with modern fingerprint technology, they will refuse to take prints and do fuk all for you.

This is a very American situation. The whole police protocol is designed because everyone is packing heat, so equal force has to be threatened at any moment. I know you guys love your guns and hate your illegal drugs, but come on. You can't have it both ways, you can't have a heavy handed, armed and agitated police and peoples while also trying to enforce all kinds of old religious laws, like the "war on drugs" without bloodshed. I would look at this as a case of, it's the way you wanted it and they way you got it.

That is the argument being made. To change the laws, specifically the penalties for nonviolent drug crimes. Rehab > Jail. And also, if the person doesn't seem like a threat and you have their face and license, if they panic and flee, there is no need to use force to chase them. You can get them later.

I can see why you would think that.

Didn't read this whole thread.

I'm unclear on why the officer proceeded to detain the woman and requested to search her bag after he found that she wasn't the person he was looking for when he stopped the vehicle.

If he had stopped once he knew that this would have all been avoided.



That said, the woman's actions were the primary driver of how this unfolded.

There is so much money and power involved that it will never happen. The main reason is that the average person is propagandized into submission and too stupid to break away from the programmed response

Well we need to do something because this chit ain't workin.

Yes, we need to defund the police and marginalize white people. Get with the times

How about just doing drug rehab and drug courts for nonviolent drug offenses?