1.) The risk of infection is different for different people as is the risk from injection, so you can’t really make a blanket statement like that.

2.) you’re talking about risk from a variant of the virus that isn’t even around anymore. So far all indications are that risk from the virus is going down while risk from injection will go up every time you get one.

3.) you’re basing degree of natural immunity on a test that doesn’t tell the entire story, so just because a test may say you aren’t well protected anymore that doesn’t mean it’s accurate.

Which groups have higher risk from vaccination than infection? I was referring to health risks (e.g., feeling sick, crappy, missing school/work, etc - not just risk of death).I'm not following this one. Why would risk go up with every injection?

Probability doesn't work that way. Car accidents, air travel, for example; the risk doesn't increase with every trip. You don't increase your chance of winning the lottery by playing more often.Upon what are you basing "natural" immunity?

Kids(which you would know if you’d actually listened to the podcast like you claimed to have done. Why did you lie about that?) and possibly some healthy adultsDo you have more chance of being in a car accident if you drive once this week or five times this week? Most lottery winners don’t win the first time they buy a ticket you potato.Natural immunity = you have not received an injection yet you get Covid and recover from it.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if it was intentionally manufactured and released for profits. It's the biggest transfer of wealth in the world's history. The elites extracting money from low and middle class.

The data would suggest more kids feel sick from covid than have an adverse reaction to the vaccine. (Not buying into someone's claims doesn't mean I didn't hear those claims).
Okay. Flipping a coin gives you a 50/50 chance of heads. Do the odds of each flip change based on the number of flips, or is it 50/50 on every flip?Right, I know what people refer to as "natural" immunity. But if it's superior, why are there re-infections?

You implied I'm "relying on a test". What are you using as a metric to "tell the whole story" of immunity?

A study published this week in Nature:

Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection

"We estimated an extratwo,oneandsixmyocarditis events per 1 million people vaccinated with ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively, in the 28 days following a first dose and an extraten myocarditis events per 1 million vaccinated in the 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273.

This compares with an extra40(95% CI 38, 41) myocarditis events per 1 million patients in the28 days following a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We also observed increased risks of pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias following a positive SARS-CoV-2 test.

Similar associations were not observed with any of the COVID-19 vaccines, apart from an increased risk of arrhythmia following a second dose of mRNA-1273."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0



10 related to vaccinationvs40 related to infection.

The Doc said he's looked at all ~100 potential cases of reinfection and his analysis was that none had occurred. The tests blowing false positives being the issue.

Key issue in the podcast was that 85-90% of all COVID deaths could have been avoided if immediate treatment was provided as soon as infection was detected as giving the vaccine time to multiply just leads to micro bloodclats in the lungs and eventually death for millions of people,, so having the narrative of treatment ignored is a crime and we must be given access.

Personally, if I could get hold of that **** the Doc was saying at the end that I think J Ro was provided with then I'd bop to discos erry night till I caught this soft Omicron variant.

Feeling sick and adverse reaction are not equal. Would you rather your kid feel sick from Covid or be one of the unlucky ones to end up in the hospital with a heart problem from the injection??You cant honestly be this dense… If tails is a negative reaction, do you have a better chance of flipping a tails if you flip a coin once or if you flip a coin 10 times? And that’s before we even get into the possibility that it may be that the chances aren’t 50/50 each time, and that the 2nd flip could be more likely to result in adverse reaction than the first, the third more likely than the 2nd, etc.
Based on what we’ve seen in past viruses(like sars Covid 1) and what we’ve seen so far from this virus, the chance of getting infected twice is extremely low to non-existent. Meanwhile we see tons of people who’ve been injected getting infected with the virus. It’s not that hard to figure out. The people who would want you to think this virus is super special and can infect you over and over are the same people who stand to make billions of dollars by selling injections every year.

Again…being injected doesn’t prevent you from being infected. They even point out in the study that there are people they list as infected who have been injected. So you can be exposed to the risk from the injection and still be susceptible to the risk from infection.


It states that younger people are most likely to experience heart issues after an injection. It never mentions that younger people are more susceptible to heart issues after infection. I wonder why that is???? So again, as a young person my risk from the injection is higher than the average and my risk from infection is lower than the average.

Headaches and tripping on a curb are reported as adverse reactions.
Every flip is 50/50.

With vaccines the odds are much, much, much less than 50% chance of myocarditis or serious adverse event.
That seems to have changed with Omicron

Correct. Not 100% prevention. But, the odds of infection with exposure are greatly reducedMy take is that if avoiding myocarditis is your goal, vaccination is a better roll of the dice than infection.

Your take is also that someone who receives one injection and someone who gets 100 injections have the same risk of adverse effects….sooooo…….

That's just probability theory, not my take. Probability != compound interest

I choose option 3, no infection or injection. Feels goodman.

That was circumvented long ago with the fake-narrative that: it's the anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers/general skeptics fault for extending the pandemic.In 10 years when you wake up from your biased big-pharma propaganda stupor, you'll shake your head at the fact you defended them so fervently.

I wonder if JLC (wincel) gets the vaccines in bulk and adds them to his soups and whatnot for extra protection

No they aren't. As he says in the podcast, it's about 1% reduced risk.
Not if you're under 40, and especially not if you're a male under 40.